Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XVI

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#11,926
#11,926
Aesius said:
I'm ready to get this show on the road. Hopefully an announcement is made either tomorrow or Monday and we can start moving forward. And hopefully that announcement includes a little tidbit about Butch being more involved in the offensive playcalling.
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Debord should be moved in by Monday. He doesn't have anything important going on. Just has to turn in his net that he cleans the UM pool with.
 
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#11,928
#11,928
RiseToTheTop said:
Debord should be moved in by Monday. He doesn't have anything important going on. Just has to turn in his net that he cleans the UM pool with.
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Tell him to bring it along. He can wear it as a hat/cover his old white bald head to try and get Preston Williams to let him in the house for a chat.
 
#11,929
#11,929
Guys is this a done deal or are we still speculating? Has anything been confirmed? I am trying to just trust Butch in this- he does not want to fail and it really is his offense. My concern now is more with holding recruits together and finishing strong and not losing any more coaches hopefully.... What a stressful few days!!!
 
#11,930
#11,930
vol lady said:
Guys is this a done deal or are we still speculating? Has anything been confirmed? I am trying to just trust Butch in this- he does not want to fail and it really is his offense. My concern now is more with holding recruits together and finishing strong and not losing any more coaches hopefully.... What a stressful few days!!!
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Imo reports seem to be setting the stage for the announcement. IMO no real concern with losing recruits. Maybe one, but IMO he may have been gone before CMB ever left.
 
#11,931
#11,931
vol lady said:
Guys is this a done deal or are we still speculating? Has anything been confirmed? I am trying to just trust Butch in this- he does not want to fail and it really is his offense. My concern now is more with holding recruits together and finishing strong and not losing any more coaches hopefully.... What a stressful few days!!!
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We're going to finish strong no matter what. Have VNers been hanging around you too much?
 
#11,934
#11,934
Only thing to be determined I'd guess is what's up with CZA. He does not get at least CoOC, he's probably gone. Does Butch have DeBord onboard as a line OC or is it a duo? Or does Butch let CZA roll out and hire someone else along with DeBord?
 
#11,935
#11,935
LebanonVolunteer said:
Only thing to be determined I'd guess is what's up with CZA. He does not get at least CoOC, he's probably gone. Does Butch have DeBord onboard as a line OC or is it a duo? Or does Butch let CZA roll out and hire someone else along with DeBord?
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Let him go, and tell him to take Mahoney with him. Then I would hire a new WR coach and promote Seirdian.
 
#11,936
#11,936
I wonder how much Hart is involved in this. Wonder if he's allowing enough money to make a good hire. Doubtful iyam
 
#11,941
#11,941
Aesius said:
And those are the only people who matter in this decision.
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Are you saying our staff is smarter than everyone else in the nation? Are you saying they know more than anyone else in the nation? Or are you saying that we should blindly agree with every decision they make?
 
#11,944
#11,944
Catbone said:
I wonder how much Hart is involved in this. Wonder if he's allowing enough money to make a good hire. Doubtful iyam
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Of course Hart has to ok it. I doubt he's involved in much detail wise at all unless Butch informed him he needed substantially more money wise than what CMB was getting. IMO that was not going to be the case.
 
#11,945
#11,945
Here's how I see it playing out...CBJ wants CZA at OC. I don't think CZA is quite ready. Work out a deal where CZA gets a Co-OC title and mentors under Debord for a couple years. The offensive system will remain the same. Play calling for the most part has nowhere to go but up IMO. After a year or two reevaluate, and if things have progressed as planned then CZA has the job. As detail oriented as CBJ is there's no way on earth the man doesn't have a plan in place. I just don't see it. The more I've read and thought about it, I'm honestly going to be fine with Debord. I'm ready to see what happens. I'm not ready to give up and freak out over the hire. CBJ really hasn't made any terrible moves yet and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Is it a sexy, exciting hire? Nah...but that's OK IMO. It seems to be a chance CBJ sees as worth taking and I'm fine with it. Coaches live by the sword and die by the sword. Let's see what these guys are made of...just a thought.

GBMFO!
 
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TriedAndTrueVOL said:
Here's how I see it playing out...CBJ wants CZA at OC. I don't think CZA is quite ready. Work out a deal where CZA gets a Co-OC title and mentors under Debord for a couple years. The offensive system will remain the same. Play calling for the most part has nowhere to go but up IMO. After a year or two reevaluate, and if things have progressed as planned then CZA has the job. As detail oriented as CBJ is there's no way on earth the man doesn't have a plan in place. I just don't see it. The more I've read and thought about it, I'm honestly going to be fine with Debord. I'm ready to see what happens. I'm not ready to give up and freak out over the hire. CBJ really hasn't made any terrible moves yet and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Is it a sexy, exciting hire? Nah...but that's OK IMO. It seems to be a chance CBJ sees as worth taking and I'm fine with it. Coaches live by the sword and die by the sword. Let's see what these guys are made of...just a thought.

GBMFO!
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Sounds good to me. I would like to see Butch move Mahoney along if DeBord is hired. Dual OCs, WR and OL covered by same guys. Either promote Sheridan as Burger said, or I'd go after Quarles for QB coach and recruiting coordinator. IMO, it's looking good going forward.
 
#11,947
#11,947
LebanonVolunteer said:
Sounds good to me. I would like to see Butch move Mahoney along if DeBord is hired. Dual OCs, WR and OL covered by same guys. Either promote Sheridan as Burger said, or I'd go after Quarles for QB coach and recruiting coordinator. IMO, it's looking good going forward.
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I would be fine with that as well.
 
#11,948
#11,948
Another poster on 247 posted this his opinion on why Magee would be the perfect hire for us:

I know I'm new here but I thought I would chime in since I might have some unique in-site on one of the names mentioned.
If Calvin Magee is the pick, we are setting pretty. As someone who lives in West Virginia and has followed WVU for years, I am telling you all, this is our guy. He knows the Rich Rod offense front to back, which is very familiar to what we ran when Dobbs took over. He is a great recruiter in Florida (USF Grad), helped establish the WVU-Florida talent pipeline that is still strong today.
A little story to wet your appetite. When Rich Rod left for Michigan before the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma, Magee stayed behind believing he would be considered for the HC job. What he did in the days leading up to the bowl game, was proved to everyone that he should have been the pick instead of Bill Stewart. He put together and executed an unstoppable WVU offensive attack that shell shocked the heavily favored Sooners. In a game most thought WVU would lose by 4 TD's, WVU won 48-28.
I truly believe that he is the man for the job.

Sounds good to me!
 
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BigOrangeVols said:
Are you saying our staff is smarter than everyone else in the nation? Are you saying they know more than anyone else in the nation? Or are you saying that we should blindly agree with every decision they make?
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Unless you are the boss where you work or in HR do you get to decide who gets hired and fired for every job at your work place? CBJ's does, so only his opinion really matters in this, ours is worth zip.
 
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#11,950
#11,950
Quit with this Quarles crap. That is ridiculous. Heck if you are going for the ridiculous do what the Oklahoma fan board suggested, hire Van Jefferson's dad and get Van in a package deal. At least you get a really good coach and player that way. There are lot's of good HS coaches but just let CBJ PICK who he wants on HIS staff.
 
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