Recruiting Forum Football Talk XVIII

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JamesBenUT said:
Everyone giving Dave Hart props for bringing NIKE to campus. However, it appears he got us hosed at the negotiating table:

Dustin Dopirak @TennesseeBeat If I do the math right, Nike is paying Michigan $6.4 million per year in cash alone, which is more than five times what they're paying UT.
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Adidas was also paying Michigan 9 million a year vs the 5 for us.
 
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JamesBenUT said:
Everyone giving Dave Hart props for bringing NIKE to campus. However, it appears he got us hosed at the negotiating table:

Dustin Dopirak @TennesseeBeat If I do the math right, Nike is paying Michigan $6.4 million per year in cash alone, which is more than five times what they're paying UT.
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Fahr Hahrt.
 
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I read that some of the terms of Nike's deal with UT will very likely be revisited if UT starts to see significant success on the field or court. I'd bet the cash payout will be one of those.
 
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butchna said:
Bama's been leaning more and more on players they've signed in the previous year's class. We have an experienced junior at QB against whoever GA throws out there. They're throwing out a lot of their youngins and if you watched any of their spring game, they're hurting at DL and needed Thompson badly (the true freshman). Oklahoma is more talented than they finished, but our freshman/sophomore dominated squad weren't physically trashed (despite the fears of the buyout advocates) by them(overall...not OL :) ) last year...and they didn't retroactively outrecruit us. Speaking of "hurting". The rest of your list SCe,Mizzou and to a lesser extent UF, are not LOADED...that's an old scouting report. Maybe I just value our juniors and seniors more than I should but I think we have a good mix and shouldn't be retreading our new traditional inferiority complex. :hi:
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UF's defense has the potential to be very good. I think it just depends on whether or not their coaches can put the pieces together in time. Mizzou has been underrated the last two years. I, for one, am not sleeping on them again. SCe, I think they peaked and are headed down, but they could still be dangerous. I do like our chances in all three of those games.
 
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JamesBenUT said:
Is their fan base that much financially stronger than us?
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How do you "get screwed at the negotiating table", if you get paid a chunk of money and AFTER that deal is completed , someone gets more? Hart should know how much Nike would moneywhip Michigan and demand a similar amount? The superpowers some of you demand of our AD passed ridiculous four exits back! :loco:
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
the harbaugh effect is not overnight. They are going to struggle again this year.
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The harbaugh effect on the field doesn't happen overnight but Nike is banking on him. Harbaugh is why they are getting a big nike deal. It will be funny when he leaves. It wouldn't surprise me if the number is exaggerated though. What's the point of going 4-5 times more than your previous top cash deal at FSU. Or possibly a clause regarding harbaugh in it.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
The harbaugh effect on the field doesn't happen overnight but Nike is banking on him. Harbaugh is why they are getting a big nike deal. It will be funny when he leaves. It wouldn't surprise me if the number is exaggerated though. What's the point of going 4-5 times more than your previous top cash deal at FSU. Or possibly a clause regarding harbaugh in it.
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Great point! Shouldn't FSU's AD be getting reamed for accepting less than Michigan?...BEFORE Michigan accepted more than FSU? :loco:
 
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So per Dustin Dopirak (@TennesseeBeat), Nike is apparently paying Michigan 3.5x more than anyone on their roster. More than Kentucky, FSU, anyone. UK & FSU's numbers are pretty similar to ours.

Odd. They must really have wanted Michigan.
 
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butchna said:
How do you "get screwed at the negotiating table", if you get paid a chunk of money and AFTER that deal is completed , someone gets more? Hart should know how much Nike would moneywhip Michigan and demand a similar amount? The superpowers some of you demand of our AD passed ridiculous four exits back! :loco:
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It's called valuation. Superior businessmen know how to do it. If you sell your house and a short time later your neighbor sells theirs (with similar amenities)for a significant amount more, you, my friend, either were a distressed seller or you have piss poor fair market value calculating skills

Edit:Or your neighbor's buyer was distressed
 
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I was initially optimistic, but starting to think VP is done here. Less than 3 weeks until fall camp and no progress on his case.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
So per Dustin Dopirak (@TennesseeBeat), Nike is apparently paying Michigan 3.5x more than anyone on their roster. More than Kentucky, FSU, anyone. UK & FSU's numbers are pretty similar to ours.

Odd. They must really have wanted Michigan.
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Basketball and football powerhouse. Not to mention good swimming and track programs
 
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Swimming and Track revenue are negligible for NIKE. I wouldn't doubt we will sell more basketball NIKE merchandise than Michigan. Granted going off of attendance alone, we had 20,000 more fans in seats at our basketball games than Michigan. We ranked #13 nationally, Michigan 28th.
 
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JamesBenUT said:
It's called valuation. Superior businessmen know how to do it. If you sell your house and a short time later your neighbor sells theirs (with similar amenities)for a significant amount more, you, my friend, either were a distressed seller or you have piss poor fair market value calculating skills

Edit:Or your neighbor's buyer was distressed
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The sports radio station I listen to in Dallas had a board op from a very wealthy family. His parents custom built a mansion in the most affluent area in DFW. Dirk Nowitzki was driving in the area, saw the house and HAD TO HAVE IT. It wasn't for sale...HE BOUGHT IT. So the poor schlub that lived next door to the nice doctor's family and sold his mansion for 8 million less the year before is a "distressed seller"? :). Here's another...you sell your house for a great price that makes YOU exceedingly happy...your neighbor Jon Voigt, a few months later then sells his house FOR MUCH MORE. Why? Because somebody was willing to fork out a lot more to buy Jon Voigt's house...because he's Jon Voight. (He's Angelina Jolie's father :)). Are you "distressed" because you're not Jon Voight? :dunno:

We got a good deal. Quit bellyaching like a lottery winner who realizes he/she has to pay taxes on their winnings. "Losing" money they never had gets em "distressed". :scare:
 
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butchna said:
The sports radio station I listen to in Dallas had a board op from a very wealthy family. His parents custom built a mansion in the most affluent area in DFW. Dirk Nowitzki was driving in the area, saw the house and HAD TO HAVE IT. It wasn't for sale...HE BOUGHT IT. So the poor schlub that lived next door to the nice doctor's family and sold his mansion for 8 million less the year before is a "distressed seller"? :). Here's another...you sell your house for a great price that makes YOU exceedingly happy...your neighbor Jon Voigt, a few months later then sells his house FOR MUCH MORE. Why? Because somebody was willing to fork out a lot more to buy Jon Voigt's house...because he's Jon Voight. (He's Angelina Jolie's father :)). Are you "distressed" because you're not Jon Voight? :dunno:

We got a good deal. Quit bellyaching like a lottery winner who realizes he/she has to pay taxes on their winnings. "Losing" money they never had gets em "distressed". :scare:
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Does Jon Voight's LeBaron convertible come with the house? If so, I'm in.
 
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JamesBenUT said:
Everyone giving Dave Hart props for bringing NIKE to campus. However, it appears he got us hosed at the negotiating table:

Dustin Dopirak @TennesseeBeat If I do the math right, Nike is paying Michigan $6.4 million per year in cash alone, which is more than five times what they're paying UT.

BREAKING: Michigan says its deal with Nike from 2016-2027 is worth $169 million w/$76.8M in cash alone)
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Wow! That's a bit embarrassing. I'd like to hear the spin on this
 
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