Recruiting Forum Football Talk XVIII

[BigOrange15]

Wow! That's a bit embarrassing. I'd like to hear the spin on this

He didn't. Our deal is similar to most Nike schools. For whatever reason, they paid out the ass to get Michigan. It's by far their biggest contract.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Go ahead and be embarrassed. I'll be over there enjoying the season. :gone:

I'll be embarrassed when we have to apologize for running up the score because of the efficiency of our offense.

Well, maybe not

 

[govols09]

I was initially optimistic, but starting to think VP is done here. Less than 3 weeks until fall camp and no progress on his case.

Same here. If you listen to Swain at all it seems his optimism has faded also

 

[BigOrange15]

Same here. If you listen to Swain at all it seems his optimism has faded also

Can we redshirt him if he doesn't make it back? I have heard rumblings that there is a plan in place but I wasn't sure if him being suspended for disciplinary issues would affect the ability to do it.

 

[PassedOutAwake]

I was initially optimistic, but starting to think VP is done here. Less than 3 weeks until fall camp and no progress on his case.

I was just about to post this.

 

[Crookruss]

He didn't. Our deal is similar to most Nike schools. For whatever reason, they paid out the ass to get Michigan. It's by far their biggest contract.

We've also only seen the lump sum payments. How do we know that they didn't take a lower % of merch sales or supplied gear? Need to see all the details before we strip somebody down for their negotiating ability.

 

[BigOrange15]

We've also only seen the lump sum payments. How do we know that they didn't take a lower % of merch sales or supplied gear? Need to see all the details before we strip somebody down for their negotiating ability.

I saw somewhere that they get 15% to our 13%. I honestly have no idea why Nike paid so much for Michigan.

 

[LA Vol]

It likely will be Butch's decision whether or not Von Pearson will play. Butch's policy is to suspend a player indefinitely while an investigation is open, and KPD can keep the investigation open indefinitely with little hope of establishing probable cause.

Two of the six witnesses are UT players and the incident reports are public record (with UT having unredacted copies), so Butch is in a position to make an informed decision on whether or not Von should represent the Vols. Of course, he doesn't have to do anything at all, in which case this could drag on indefinitely.

 

[highspeed]

Completely off topic here, but I've been listening to as many of Butch's interviews from yesterday as I can find, and he mentioned multiple times that he has been impressed with the freshmen LBs.

 

[engineerVOL]

Completely off topic here, but I've been listening to as many of Butch's interviews from yesterday as I can find, and he mentioned multiple times that he has been impressed with the freshmen LBs.

It's the football talk thread.. Not OT at all. The Team VIP room yesterday stated Sapp doesn't even look like the same person anymore since he arrived. Completely swolled up and shredded.

 

[Madkins8]

Everyone giving Dave Hart props for bringing NIKE to campus. However, it appears he got us hosed at the negotiating table:

Dustin Dopirak @TennesseeBeat If I do the math right, Nike is paying Michigan $6.4 million per year in cash alone, which is more than five times what they're paying UT.

BREAKING: Michigan says its deal with Nike from 2016-2027 is worth $169 million w/$76.8M in cash alone)

The blue blood midwest schools (UM, ND, and OSU) have and will always be on another level when it comes to merch brand value.

 

[DeekT]

It's the football talk thread.. Not OT at all. The Team VIP room yesterday stated Sapp doesn't even look like the same person anymore since he arrived. Completely swolled up and shredded.

Any mention specifically of how well Kirkland is coming along?

 

[engineerVOL]

Any mention specifically of how well Kirkland is coming along?

This was the DK tidbit...

"We could have mentioned middle linebacker Darrin Kirkland Jr. above with the other freshmen who are impressing from a physical standpoint. We heard from two more sources in the past week that Kirkland is showing all the signs of someone who’s intent on impressing in preseason camp. Let’s put it this way: It wouldn’t surprise anyone if he did"

 

[DeekT]

This was the DK tidbit...

"We could have mentioned middle linebacker Darrin Kirkland Jr. above with the other freshmen who are impressing from a physical standpoint. We heard from two more sources in the past week that Kirkland is showing all the signs of someone who’s intent on impressing in preseason camp. Let’s put it this way: It wouldn’t surprise anyone if he did"

Thanks for the info. This kid is going to be a star. I hope he does show out in camp this fall.

 

[highspeed]

Any mention specifically of how well Kirkland is coming along?

Not that I have found. When asked specifically about summer enrollees who have impressed him, he mentioned Sapp (the only player he mentioned by name) and then said that all of the freshmen LBs have been impressive.

 

[snowvols]

Brantley is officially out for the year for Missouri. I think they only return two guys from their two deep on the DL last year. They lost all 4 starters.

 

[TriCitiesVol]

Missouri is ripe for the picking this year. Mauk isn't good enough to carry them all year

 

[tomq_123]

Is Kelly on campus yet or is he still waiting on the clearing house?

Nevermind, he's listed on the roster so I assume he's on campus.

 

[MockingVol]

Missouri is ripe for the picking this year. Mauk isn't good enough to carry them all year

Mauk isn't good enough to carry them in a single game. He has been and will continue being trash. For a player as consistently bad as he is you would think people would start realizing that Mizzou is winning despite him, not because of him.

 

[MockingVol]

Is Kelly on campus yet or is he still waiting on the clearing house?

Nevermind, he's listed on the roster so I assume he's on campus.

He has been on campus a few week now I believe.

 

[American_PitVol]

A couple weeks away from the birth of a son. I will be watching all games from home with silent yelling and namnaste moments except the Florida game as it's local. Have fun guy. I'm jealous.

Congrats on the pending arrival of your son! I will yell for both of you! I intend to need vocal cord surgery after this game...lol

 

[tomq_123]

He has been on campus a few week now I believe.

I haven't been around much lately....to much uniform talk for me. I NEED some cracking of helmets.

 

[PassedOutAwake]

justin martin ‏@Elite_made 2m2 minutes ago
Lol im eating good.

 

[Wickman]

It likely will be Butch's decision whether or not Von Pearson will play. Butch's policy is to suspend a player indefinitely while an investigation is open, and KPD can keep the investigation open indefinitely with little hope of establishing probable cause.

Two of the six witnesses are UT players and the incident reports are public record (with UT having unredacted copies), so Butch is in a position to make an informed decision on whether or not Von should represent the Vols. Of course, he doesn't have to do anything at all, in which case this could drag on indefinitely.

It isn't Butch's decision. Hubbs said on 104.5 this morning that if the case isn't resolved soon, he isn't sure that the school will let him enroll for the fall semester, making him ineligible to play football. That is why there is so much concern about it being resolved soon.

 

[tomq_123]

It isn't Butch's decision. Hubbs said on 104.5 this morning that if the case isn't resolved soon, he isn't sure that the school will let him enroll for the fall semester, making him ineligible to play football. That is why there is so much concern about it being resolved soon.

SBV made a drive by in the Von Pearson Update thread in the FF.

I expect to hear something on this soon. Next week at the latest.