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Nashvegas31 said:
Why is it so hard for some to understand how incredibly hard it is to coach a defense that has a new lineup every week? Especially in year 1 of that defense with a DC that wasn't able to bring any other coaches with him to teach his system?
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Exactly why I have said shoop is better for the long term but Jancek would have been better this year. Jancek is a better gameplanner and knew the roster. The revolving door due to injuries has minimized Shoops game day adjustments which have been better than Jancek.
 
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BruinVol said:
Exactly why I have said shoop is better for the long term but Jancek would have been better this year. Jancek is a better gameplanner and knew the roster. The revolving door due to injuries has minimized Shoops game day adjustments which have been better than Jancek.
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You're basing "better gameplanner " on what? Career stats...or personal agenda? :)
 
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butchna said:
You're basing "better gameplanner " on what? Career stats...or personal agenda? :)
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Basing it off shoop allowing the other team to score a TD seemingly every game the first or 2nd drive. It's like dealth and taxes. Mizzu is a lock to score quickly Saturday.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Just wait.

In 3 years Kamara, Sutton, Kirkland, Hurd, and Dobbs will all be pro-bowlers in the pros and we'll be wondering why we couldn't win more games here with so much elite NFL talent.
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Remember those names.

That's our 6 best players in terms of pro potential in the senior through sophomore classes.

It's too early to judge the freshmen.
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That's only five people, bruh. I see you exaggerate numbers like you exaggerate talent.
 
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BruinVol said:
Basing it off shoop allowing the other team to score a TD seemingly every game the first or 2nd drive. It's like dealth and taxes. Mizzu is a lock to score quickly Saturday.
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So ONE SEASON kneejerk? Positively scientific! :thumbsup:
 
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butchna said:
So ONE SEASON kneejerk? Positively scientific! :thumbsup:
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Well we have only one season to go by unless you and JerryS want to join up and watch some Penn state film.

His gameplanning has sucked plain and simple. The defense has been awful to start games.
 
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BruinVol said:
Well we have only one season to go by unless you and JerryS want to join up and watch some Penn state film.

His gameplanning has sucked plain and simple. The defense has been awful to start games.
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Vandy resume and two head to head wins against us didn't jazz ya? :)
 
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butchna said:
Vandy resume and two head to head wins against us didn't jazz ya? :)
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I would love to know how his defense did at Vandy and Penn State at the start of Games. I am hoping the unfamiliarity and injuries have hampered his gameplanning and this year is an outlier.
 
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BruinVol said:
I would love to know how his defense did at Vandy and Penn State at the start of Games. I am hoping the unfamiliarity and injuries have hampered his gameplanning and this year is an outlier.
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You could probably go on the internet and find out. Or just keep blindly hoping and Bruining opinions as facts. :)
 
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butchna said:
You could probably go on the internet and find out. Or just keep blindly hoping and Bruining opinions as facts. :)
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I have watched every play all year and that is good enough for me to know Shoop has put an unprepared Defense on the field every week. If you choose to check box scores from years past have it.
 
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Vols4us said:
This. To engage Bruin is an exercise in futility.

You have to be strong at DT to engage more double teams there to free up your DE's to do their thing. Raise your hand if you want to see Barnett and Vereen going against one blocker instead of 2 or 3. This destroys the run and passing game of opponents. Even #53 could be adequate slowing down the run game with that happening. Notice his best games were when they had decent DT's in the games? This isn't even hard to understand. A middle schooler can do it.

FWIW we've had a Barnett style, not quite as good, who had a very good NFL career. His name is Shaun Ellis. He wears an NC ring and was All Pro twice as the #12 pick in the first round to the NYJ. Barnett is quicker, better technique, and more disruptive than even Shaun.
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Shaun Ellis was 6'5" 290 lbs. Barnett is 6'3" 265 lbs.

That's a significant difference in size. And size matters in the NFL.

Barnett will be undersized in the NFL.
 
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BruinVol said:
I have watched every play all year and that is good enough for me to know Shoop has put an unprepared Defense on the field every week. If you choose to check box scores from years past have it.
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You have an argument about everything, huh? Wish the coaching staff had your number since you have all the answers.
 
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BruinVol said:
I have watched every play all year and that is good enough for me to know Shoop has put an unprepared Defense on the field every week. If you choose to check box scores from years past have it.
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Good enough for you is good enough for you...WE have higher standards. :)
 
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A lot of y'all don't like Bruin and toss out anything he says because of that. He's making some decent points.

Shoop hasn't looked great this year. Personally I think injuries have played a huge factor. The slow starts are concerning to say the least though.

Where are all the people who said "look what he did with Vandy talent. I can't wait to see him here" ???? We still have more talent than Vandy. Are you gonna blame it all on his assistants?

Fact is that fans bought the hype on Shoop and are gonna look for any reason they can to blame someone other than him.
 
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