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Amazing how pathetic media is these days for cheap clicks. A coach should be fired if they aren't calling all parties. Hell him calling Drae and his dad multiple times should actually show he isn't playing sides
 
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How do you think there's any proof of what was said? Do you think they grabbed the recorder really quick? They are just trying to add more stuff to the story to force Tennessee to settle. They might as well shut up, because this will be fought all the way to the courts. How you can reach back 20 years to grab a story about Peyton Manning and say there is a hostile sexual environment on campus is hilarious. It just shows how far they are reaching with this lawsuit.

Only thing I worry about is what butch said to the dad. If there was a discussion about a lockerroom incident that could spell trouble

The dad being in law enforcement makes him very credible IMO so what he has to say was said could be bad if it doesn't match what cbj says
 
Only thing I worry about is what butch said to the dad. If there was a discussion about a lockerroom incident that could spell trouble

The dad being in law enforcement makes him very credible IMO so what he has to say was said could be bad if it doesn't match what cbj says

Time to start a coaching search thread IMO
 
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Only thing I worry about is what butch said to the dad. If there was a discussion about a lockerroom incident that could spell trouble

The dad being in law enforcement makes him very credible IMO so what he has to say was said could be bad if it doesn't match what cbj says

Prove it.
 
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It's a non story, but it's an excuse to get the story back in the headlines and get more clicks.

I remember a few weeks ago people saying watch for more to come out after all the national media were crawling all over Knoxville. And then I waited as nothing new came out.

Is this the worst of what they found?
 
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I remember a few weeks ago people saying watch for more to come out after all the national media were crawling all over Knoxville. And then I waited as nothing new came out.

Is this the worst of what they found?

No telling but Tennessean is full of crap so far. Trying to make things fit their agenda. Considering TN apparently knew this whole lawsuit thing was coming for a while and still were willing to fight it vs settle tells me they def feel good about their actions.
 
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Only thing I worry about is what butch said to the dad. If there was a discussion about a lockerroom incident that could spell trouble

The dad being in law enforcement makes him very credible IMO so what he has to say was said could be bad if it doesn't match what cbj says

Butch never claimed there wasn't an incident so that wouldn't matter. Butch has only denied the whole traitor garbage
 
conrad graham was a pretty good number 37. DB in early 70s.

Nice! That's a bit before my time.

It would be cool to see a post from an older Vol fan that lists out the top players to wear each number. My knowledge of players really doesn't go back much farther than the late 90's.

Could be a fun exercise that I would enjoy reading.

It also might keep this thread from feeling so much like Detective Bruin's office.
 
In further news, it appears that Butch Jones also had the nerve to put on his socks BEFORE his pants.

The nerve of some people! I'll bet he flosses BEFORE he brushes his teeth too, the monster!
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I remember a few weeks ago people saying watch for more to come out after all the national media were crawling all over Knoxville. And then I waited as nothing new came out.

Is this the worst of what they found?

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I haven't either

The call to the dad is what worries me. That's the only part of these phone records that could mean anything of significance IMO

I would think that is standard procedure. It's logical to call a parent when something like this might occur. As others have said previously, without more, that article is a non-story because those calls make sense.

On a side note, I would not like being a public employee with media access to phone and email records. I have nothing to hide, but you literally have to think about how you write every email and make every call. Scrutiny is just amazing these days.
 
"Regarding the calls to Drae Bowles and his father, I care about Drae as a person and as a player and have frequent communications with players or their parents. I am very comfortable with everything Drae, Mr. Bowles, and I discussed, and I wish him nothing but the very best. My intent was to support Drae and make sure he was OK. There’s nothing more important to me than the ultimate success in the life of our students."

Jones also said that talking frequently to football players, the authorities and the athletic director after disciplinary issues are raised is standard protocol.


Not even a molehill.
 
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I would think that is standard procedure. It's logical to call a parent when something like this might occur. As others have said previously, without more, that article is a non-story because those calls make sense.

On a side note, I would not like being a public employee with media access to phone and email records. I have nothing to hide, but you literally have to think about how you write every email and make every call. Scrutiny is just amazing these days.

Calling the dad could be very innocent and neccessary I agree

That's what I am hoping the dad says was the context of the call.


I posted that my biggest worry for butch here from the start of this is he is somehow he is "guilty" of not doing enough to protect the safely of a student athlete(Bowles). That's the biggest thing that could cost him dearly IMO and the call to the dad hopefully matches stories with all involved
 
If you're looking for an issue, sure, you'll see one, but thinking that a coach calling a player-- especially during an event like that-- is a "sheesh" moment is absurd.

Complete. And. Total. Non-story.

Thank you! Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the post about the Tennesseean printing this story. It would have been odd if he didn't have phone calls to him.
 
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Calling the dad could be very innocent and neccessary I agree

That's what I am hoping the dad says was the context of the call.


I posted that my biggest worry for butch here from the start of this is he is somehow he is "guilty" of not doing enough to protect the safely of a student athlete(Bowles). That's the biggest thing that could cost him dearly IMO and the call to the dad hopefully matches stories with all involved

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