Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXVII

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orangeblood79 said:
This is complete B.S. Look at the numbers, degree holder's earning potential increases by over one million dollars over your career with a bachelor's degree and over 2.5 million with a master's and beyond.

A degree isn't an entitlement to a prosperous life, it's a key to open up opportunities that wouldn't exist without it. It still requires hard work and dedication.

His "career" in the NFL could literally be over in next year's training camp. And yeah, he'd get six figures and beyond for that short amount of time but try stretching that money over a lifetime, with a mortgage, medical issues, kids, and retirement.

Education is crucial to the overwhelming majority of football players who get the privilege of having a free education. If football is their career choice, I wish them well, but let's not pretend as if a degree doesn't help.
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Especially when you're as close as he is. Pharmacists don't see many unemployment lines.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
1) Finishing a degree isn't always about money. Depending on one's goals, values, and aspersions it can pay off in other ways.

2) Pro money isn't a guarantee. Although he clearly has talent to play professional football, freak injuries, car wrecks, etc. still happen.
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He can come back and handle business.

There isn't a bigger payoff than have a 6 figure guaranteed starter job.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
He can come back and handle business.

There isn't a bigger payoff than have a 6 figure guaranteed starter job.
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omghulkhands said:
The UF running backs dont look very good.

Is that the general consensus or am I stupid?
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Well they've been living off the passing game Del Rio could help create and their competition has been pitiful across all three games so it's really hard to say. I think the biggest thing is that they don't appear to have settled on a main RB so perhaps they're not that good.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
This is complete B.S. Look at the numbers, degree holder's earning potential increases by over one million dollars over your career with a bachelor's degree and over 2.5 million with a master's and beyond.

A degree isn't an entitlement to a prosperous life, it's a key to open up opportunities that wouldn't exist without it. It still requires hard work and dedication.

His "career" in the NFL could literally be over in next year's training camp. And yeah, he'd get six figures and beyond for that short amount of time but try stretching that money over a lifetime, with a mortgage, medical issues, kids, and retirement.

Education is crucial to the overwhelming majority of football players who get the privilege of having a free education. If football is their career choice, I wish them well, but let's not pretend as if a degree doesn't help.
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So you're telling me if he gets cut after playing One year, comes back to finish his degree, then goes out into the work force he's not better financially to deal with the real world?

Name me a "Job" that will pay him what he will earn as an NFL player in his first year. As a matter of fact let's say he gets a job making 50-70K a year coming out. At 70k per year he has to work 6.5-7 years to equal what he would do as a ROOKIE making the minimum of 435K a year. Finishing school is one thing but securing your future is another. He could easily start a business or buy a home and be debt free. Would be well ahead of the game of life. And we are talking about just one year for a player that just makes the roster. Any kid eligible with a good grade should leave and then come back to finish school. It's free to come back at Tennessee so what is there to lose?
 
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The Breakerboy said:
That degree talk is BS. Your degree will NEVER get you a job making the money pro athletes make. You being an entrepreneur and being very successful might but a degree won't do a thing like that.
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This isn't true at all. Most guys who play in the NFL have to get a job after their professional career. Most guys aren't making millions per year nor do they have long careers.

A degree helps you in that aspect after football.
 
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Every Vol fan should make it a point to pay close attention to Kerby on the Sports Source program today, along with others. That show is usually mediocre at best. Today's show was a home run. Kerby laid it out there with honest responses. Says Mahoney is not the problem. He suggested that perhaps the coaches should curb the constant movement of players to different positions along with the players simply doing their jobs more consistently. If not Mahoney, whoever thought Coleman Thomas going to RT was a good idea needs to stop making suggestions. I do not necessarily agree with Kerby on Mahoney, but respect the opinion of a guy that benefitted personally. He also said that Dobbs has full control over the choices he makes on most of the plays. Indicated that he did not always agree with those decisions.

One further personal observation that VN experts, analysts, coaches, etc. have not emphasized. My 30 year old daughter started watching football for the first time a couple years ago. She is now a fan. Without any coaching up on how the game is played she noticed what a few of us know, that when mentioned gets ignored or shouted down. Josh Dobbs throws the ball well between the hashmarks. He does not throw the ball near as well toward the sidelines and flat passes. It has been this way since he took over the job. Simply put, his pocket footwork has issues. There is less footwork required on passes between the hashmarks. So O-line protection should be set up accordingly. Which means keep Hurd in to block to work the middle of the field. When UF loads the box, quick passes over the middle will be there to Byrd, Croom, Wolf and occasionally to the WR's. Skinny posts and go routes will also be there. Throw the ball there. If they do and Dobbs throws reasonably well, it will open up the run game as the box becomes less crowded. When that happens it frees the sideline routes. So we will see what Butch approves and what Debored calls. But now is not the time to go conservative out of fear something negative might happen.

Let's win this thing and be about winning the SEC.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
So you're telling me if he gets cut after playing One year, comes back to finish his degree, then goes out into the work force he's not better financially to deal with the real world?

Name me a "Job" that will pay him what he will earn as an NFL player in his first year. As a matter of fact let's say he gets a job making 50-70K a year coming out. At 70k per year he has to work 6.5-7 years to equal what he would do as a ROOKIE making the minimum of 435K a year. Finishing school is one thing but securing your future is another. He could easily start a business or buy a home and be debt free. Would be well ahead of the game of life. And we are talking about just one year for a player that just makes the roster. Any kid eligible with a good grade should leave and then come back to finish school. It's free to come back at Tennessee so what is there to lose?
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Kid made a decision for himself and you disagree with it...about the extent of the science here. :dunno:
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Polls are so stupid lol

Didn't we move down after beating VT? Now we move up 3 spots after that ****show we put on yesterday? I understand that some teams in front of us lost, but cmon.
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Who lost or won ugly that should have stayed ahead of us?
 
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BleedOrange91 said:
Patiently waiting for post Dobbs era.
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Why? Do you think this offense will look significantly different? I don't. We will handcuff the QB with conservative play calling, no matter who it is. That is, until we have to take the cuffs off because we are down by double digits. I wish Butch would just experiment one game, and fully take the cuffs off Dobbs the entire game. Let Dobbs be Dobbs and create plays the entire game...they would see this offense is nearly unstoppable.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
So you're telling me if he gets cut after playing One year, comes back to finish his degree, then goes out into the work force he's not better financially to deal with the real world?

Name me a "Job" that will pay him what he will earn as an NFL player in his first year. As a matter of fact let's say he gets a job making 50-70K a year coming out. At 70k per year he has to work 6.5-7 years to equal what he would do as a ROOKIE making the minimum of 435K a year. Finishing school is one thing but securing your future is another. He could easily start a business or buy a home and be debt free. Would be well ahead of the game of life. And we are talking about just one year for a player that just makes the roster. Any kid eligible with a good grade should leave and then come back to finish school. It's free to come back at Tennessee so what is there to lose?
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Pharmacists start at well over 100k. And the tests that are required after finishing education are extensive. I'm sure they are easier to pass when the information is fresh on the mind. Why not support the VFL for the decision he made for his future?
 
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The Breakerboy said:
So you're telling me if he gets cut after playing One year, comes back to finish his degree, then goes out into the work force he's not better financially to deal with the real world?

Name me a "Job" that will pay him what he will earn as an NFL player in his first year. As a matter of fact let's say he gets a job making 50-70K a year coming out. At 70k per year he has to work 6.5-7 years to equal what he would do as a ROOKIE making the minimum of 435K a year. Finishing school is one thing but securing your future is another. He could easily start a business or buy a home and be debt free. Would be well ahead of the game of life. And we are talking about just one year for a player that just makes the roster. Any kid eligible with a good grade should leave and then come back to finish school. It's free to come back at Tennessee so what is there to lose?
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Agree with a lot of what you said but he could easily blow it all as well. Athletes aren't the smartest when it comes to money. I doubt Cam is one of those though to tell you the truth. A lot of athletes never secure that degree when they leave early.:hi:
 
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The Breakerboy said:
So you're telling me if he gets cut after playing One year, comes back to finish his degree, then goes out into the work force he's not better financially to deal with the real world?

Name me a "Job" that will pay him what he will earn as an NFL player in his first year. As a matter of fact let's say he gets a job making 50-70K a year coming out. At 70k per year he has to work 6.5-7 years to equal what he would do as a ROOKIE making the minimum of 435K a year. Finishing school is one thing but securing your future is another. He could easily start a business or buy a home and be debt free. Would be well ahead of the game of life. And we are talking about just one year for a player that just makes the roster. Any kid eligible with a good grade should leave and then come back to finish school. It's free to come back at Tennessee so what is there to lose?
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Wouldn't it be great if we all had a way to tell the future?

If getting a degree was important enough to him to come back and earn it, I'm about 100% sure it was a decision in which he thought out every potential outcome, including this one.

Who are you to criticize what's important to him?

Edit: Also, there's nothing "easy" about starting a business.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
Wouldn't it be great if we all had a way to tell the future?

If getting a degree was important enough to him to come back and earn it, I'm about 100% sure it was a decision in which he thought out every potential outcome, including this one.

Who are you to criticize what's important to him?

Edit: Also, there's nothing "easy" about starting a business.
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Who said starting a business was easy? I know he'd have a lot easier time dealing with financial set backs than an average person.
 
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