Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Yeah man. Crazy times we live in

You ain't lying

 

[volatil]

Why Butch Jones will shock the world and add hardware to the trophy cases this year.


See how easy that was

 

[31VFL]

Sallee has been very positive about the Vols the past 2 years.

 

[Geronimo]

Hahaha...stirring the pot once again. He just can't resist.

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/steve-spurrier-picks-florida-win-sec-east

 

[volatil]

Sallee has been very positive about the Vols the past 2 years.

And it got us nowhere.

Reverse psychology.... I like it!

 

[RiseToTheTop]

everybody thinks we will be awful which means we wont be at all. This BS is never right this time of year.

 

[tomq_123]

Exactly what I was going to post :hi:

Great minds.

Now, can you please kill the Cobra already!!!

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Did u even watch the Atlanta game last year? He won the damn game by himself! The guy is elite, no doubt. You are so wrong so often it blows my mind.

I saw that game.

I just had higher expectations for Eric Berry.

 

[Aesius]

Lol @ Barrett Sallee thinking Tennessee is going to fire Butch before the season ends and hire Chip Kelly or even reserve a ticket in the Chip Kelly lottery. If any other big name schools want him, he's not coming to Tennessee. It just won't happen.

Currie may indeed have big brass ones and a feverish desire to make his mark on the UT football program, but he still has to deal with the movers and shakers who signed off on the hires of Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, and yes, even Butch Jones. I just don't see those guys ever getting into a bidding war for a coach. They'll make Currie go bargain shopping like they made Hart and even Hamilton.

In other words, if Butch Jones gets fired, there's an extremely good chance we're going to end up with an unproven version of Butch Jones.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I'm not going to quote D4H to save you guys who have him on ignore. I just want to point out in this thread he has disparaged a Tennessee legend and all-time good guy, Eric Berry. He has said that Berry wasn't that impressive in the pros and that he's had a worse career than Earl Thomas.

This is an unforgivable offense. Therefore I submit to you this official motion to have D4H's Vol card revoked permanently.

I mean, Earl Thomas wasn't even an All-Pro this year. He's ranked #30 on the NFL's Top 100 players list, which is voted on by other players. EB is ranked #13.

EB has missed 2 of his 7 professional years... He has come back from Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma to play at an All Pro level. He used to scrub helmets on Friday night before games.

EB is the real deal. D4H is not fit to be considered part of Volnation.

Thank you for your consideration.

Earl Thomas has been better over his CAREER than Eric Berry. I know we all love Eric but the numbers are what they are.

Earl Thomas - 4 time 1st team All-Pro; 23 career INTs

Eric Berry - 3 time 1st team All-Pro; 14 career INTs

Plus Earl has a superbowl ring.

I expected Eric to have more INTs in the NFL.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Because NFL teams always pay disappointing players record contracts 😂

He should have been better in the NFL given how incredible he was in college.

Only Adrian Peterson as a freshmen impressed me more than Eric Berry in college. His career has been great by normal standards. But I expected MORE.

I expected him to be looked at as arguably the greatest safety ever. And that hasn't happened. He's been great. But he hasn't been transcendent as a pro.

I expected him to be transcendent.

 

[armchair]

Eric Berry is a strong safety. He makes tackles, mainly. Strong safeties rarely become "transcendent"--funny word. Free safeties roam the field and are much more likely to make interceptions; they tend to be the high-profile stars--though Berry is certainly a star. If I were a GM, I wouldn't give a strong safety a big-money contract. For one thing, they tend to get injured because of the large number of tackles they make--and it is not a position that is especially hard to fill. This is not to say that I don't appreciate Berry's talent and his inspirational comeback. I do.

 

[delfonic]

Earl Thomas has been better over his CAREER than Eric Berry. I know we all love Eric but the numbers are what they are.

Earl Thomas - 4 time 1st team All-Pro; 23 career INTs

Eric Berry - 3 time 1st team All-Pro; 14 career INTs

Plus Earl has a superbowl ring.

I expected Eric to have more INTs in the NFL.

Same number of seasons, except Berry didn't play in two of them. Earl Thomas WAS NOT an All-Pro last year, which as far as I know was the most recent year to count.

Earl has played alongside significantly better players in the Seattle secondary and on the Seattle defense than EB has. Just look at EB's solo tackles vs his assists and then look at Thomas. Also Earl hasn't done nearly as much as EB after intercepting the ball.

Also, last I checked safeties weren't judged by rings.

I get that you have to be a contrarian, I just wish you weren't so intent on being dumb about it.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Stop arguing. It is 1 guys opinion against Vol Nation.

You are never going to see his side and he is never going to see yours.

Just stop talking about it.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Eric Berry is a strong safety. He makes tackles, mainly. Strong safeties rarely become "transcendent"--funny word. Free safeties roam the field and are much more likely to make interceptions; they tend to be the high-profile stars--though Berry is certainly a star. If I were a GM, I wouldn't give a strong safety a big-money contract. For one thing, they tend to get injured because of the large number of tackles they make--and it is not a position that is especially hard to fill. This is not to say that I don't appreciate Berry's talent and his inspirational comeback. I do.

Eric Berry was an INT machine in college. I assumed he would continue that into the NFL.

 

[Blake25p]

Eric Berry was an INT machine in college. I assumed he would continue that into the NFL.

He plays in the box a lot, similar to what he did his Jr year. Not many opportunities to get INTs playing like that.

 

[volatil]

Stop arguing. It is 1 guys opinion against Vol Nation.

You are never going to see his side and he is never going to see yours.

Just stop talking about it.

Not until he admits publicly that he's wrong.


















And I want an apology.

 

[Volinmem]

He should have been better in the NFL given how incredible he was in college.

Only Adrian Peterson as a freshmen impressed me more than Eric Berry in college. His career has been great by normal standards. But I expected MORE.

I expected him to be looked at as arguably the greatest safety ever. And that hasn't happened. He's been great. But he hasn't been transcendent as a pro.

I expected him to be transcendent.

A lot of trash talk on a message board. I just wish EB could meet you over the middle...just once.

 

[MockingVol]

A lot of trash talk on a message board. I just wish EB could meet you over the middle...just once.

Maybe a good hit would knock the knowledge of the names of the Halls he got his Duke "education" at out.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Eric Berry is a strong safety. He makes tackles, mainly. Strong safeties rarely become "transcendent"--funny word. Free safeties roam the field and are much more likely to make interceptions; they tend to be the high-profile stars--though Berry is certainly a star. If I were a GM, I wouldn't give a strong safety a big-money contract. For one thing, they tend to get injured because of the large number of tackles they make--and it is not a position that is especially hard to fill. This is not to say that I don't appreciate Berry's talent and his inspirational comeback. I do.

Berry is a do it all Safety. There's a difference, he's not an average Strong Safety. And it can be argued that he'd be better roaming at FS with his speed, instincts and high football IQ. There's a reason he got PAID.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Earl Thomas has been better over his CAREER than Eric Berry. I know we all love Eric but the numbers are what they are.

Earl Thomas - 4 time 1st team All-Pro; 23 career INTs

Eric Berry - 3 time 1st team All-Pro; 14 career INTs

Plus Earl has a superbowl ring.

I expected Eric to have more INTs in the NFL.

Money talks and BS walks.

Eric Berry = 6 year 78 million with 20 million signing bonus and 40 million guaranteed.

Earl Thomas = 4 year 40 million with 9.75 million signing bonus and 25.7 million guaranteed.

Enough said.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Money talks and BS walks.

Eric Berry = 6 year 78 million with 20 million signing bonus and 40 million guaranteed.

Earl Thomas = 4 year 40 million with 9.75 million signing bonus and 25.7 million guaranteed.

Enough said.

#31 is the man in that Seattle secondary. It showed when he held out the other year.

 

[Daloth]

Same number of seasons, except Berry didn't play in two of them. Earl Thomas WAS NOT an All-Pro last year, which as far as I know was the most recent year to count.

Earl has played alongside significantly better players in the Seattle secondary and on the Seattle defense than EB has. Just look at EB's solo tackles vs his assists and then look at Thomas. Also Earl hasn't done nearly as much as EB after intercepting the ball.

Also, last I checked safeties weren't judged by rings.

I get that you have to be a contrarian, I just wish you weren't so intent on being dumb about it.

We can't use this logic and then say people like MJ or Belichick are the GOAT at what they do and repeatedly cite rings. Yet we do. Rings are a factor no matter how we determine it, unless both players don't have them.

 

[Daloth]

Eric Berry was an INT machine in college. I assumed he would continue that into the NFL.

You must have forgotten his last year when he played in an NFL style defense and those numbers dropped significantly, while in the process raising his stock even more by showing he can do exactly what he's doing in the NFL, which is commanding a defense.

 

[vol81]

He should have been better in the NFL given how incredible he was in college.

Only Adrian Peterson as a freshmen impressed me more than Eric Berry in college. His career has been great by normal standards. But I expected MORE.

I expected him to be looked at as arguably the greatest safety ever. And that hasn't happened. He's been es great. But he hasn't been transcendent as a pro.

I expected him to be transcendent.

Worst poster of all time hands down