Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

[VolPride14]

We can't use this logic and then say people like MJ or Belichick are the GOAT at what they do and repeatedly cite rings. Yet we do. Rings are a factor no matter how we determine it, unless both players don't have them.

To be fair, Belichek makes the calls on plays and personnel for the entire team, while MJ played in a game that was 5 on 5, versus 11 on 11.

 

[jave36]

Off topic I know, but for my fellow dark tower fans, the movie preview doesn't even try to hide the fact that they're going to butcher the main story and characters. I'm boycotting.

 

[The Dog]

Off topic I know, but for my fellow dark tower fans, the movie preview doesn't even try to hide the fact that they're going to butcher the main story and characters. I'm boycotting.

I haven't read the books or comics(I'm a big comic book fan), but the trailer looks kick-a$$ to me. Idris Elba(is that right?) looks like a bad mofo. But, I'm like u, if I've read a book or comic and the movie isn't true to the source material, it pisses me off, too.

 

[jave36]

I haven't read the books or comics(I'm a big comic book fan), but the trailer looks kick-a$$ to me. Idris Elba(is that right?) looks like a bad mofo. But, I'm like u, if I've read a book or comic and the movie isn't true to the source material, it pisses me off, too.

Idris Elba might be the only reason to watch it. The action scenes alone look incredible. Just don't understand why some no name producer thinks he can tell a better story than an international best selling author.

 

[The Dog]

Idris Elba might be the only reason to watch it. The action scenes alone look incredible. Just don't understand why some no name producer thinks he can tell a better story than an international best selling author.

I agree, man. I guess I will have to read the book, now. Or is it books?

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Idris Elba might be the only reason to watch it. The action scenes alone look incredible. Just don't understand why some no name producer thinks he can tell a better story than an international best selling author.

I haven't read them, but wouldn't it take like 7-8 movies to really do the series justice?


Seems like it should've been an HBO series, not a movie, IMO

 

[vol2002]

Money talks and BS walks.

Eric Berry = 6 year 78 million with 20 million signing bonus and 40 million guaranteed.

Earl Thomas = 4 year 40 million with 9.75 million signing bonus and 25.7 million guaranteed.

Enough said.

Man. NFL players are grossly underpaid relative to the popularity of the sport. In light of the head injuries and other issues football players endure, I think they should all go on strike for better pay. As a baseball fan used to seeing the best players getting guaranteed contracts in the 100s of millions, these contract totals are shameful (again, relative to the popularity of the sport).

 

[drvenner]

Man. NFL players are grossly underpaid relative to the popularity of the sport. In light of the head injuries and other issues football players endure, I think they should all go on strike for better pay. As a baseball fan used to seeing the best players getting guaranteed contracts in the 100s of millions, these contract totals are shameful (again, relative to the popularity of the sport).

I get your point but many still make seven figures. It seems hard for me to claim that anyone who makes that is underpaid.

 

[PowerOrange]

Man. NFL players are grossly underpaid relative to the popularity of the sport. In light of the head injuries and other issues football players endure, I think they should all go on strike for better pay. As a baseball fan used to seeing the best players getting guaranteed contracts in the 100s of millions, these contract totals are shameful (again, relative to the popularity of the sport).

Just a lot more people to pay.

 

[rekinhavoc]

How 'bout a Mount Flushmore?
Kiffin
Dooley
?
?

 

[butchna]

Idris Elba might be the only reason to watch it. The action scenes alone look incredible. Just don't understand why some no name producer thinks he can tell a better story than an international best selling author.

King endorsed the final product. Pointed out that this movie is a continuation of what he's written, not a rehash.

 

[LightningVol]

Idris Elba might be the only reason to watch it. The action scenes alone look incredible. Just don't understand why some no name producer thinks he can tell a better story than an international best selling author.

The dark tower movie is not a basic re-telling of he book series. Here is a link (spoilers if you have not read the books) to a verge story, which explains the concept. I won't say what it is to avoid posting spoilers.

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...-tower-stephen-king-film-adaptation-explainer

Ron Howard is the producer and from everything I have read, King is behind the production team doing the movies the way that they are. King could be towing the company line, but I doubt it.

Can't wait to see them

 

[LightningVol]

King endorsed the final product. Pointed out that this movie is a continuation of what he's written, not a rehash.

I was butchna-ed. 😁 More straight to the point anyway!

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

How 'bout a Mount Flushmore?
Dooley
Dooley
Dooley
Dooley

Fixed

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

How 'bout a Mount Flushmore?
Dooley
Warlick
Dooley
Warlick

Oops, forgot one

 

[utvolmaniac]

Man. NFL players are grossly underpaid relative to the popularity of the sport. In light of the head injuries and other issues football players endure, I think they should all go on strike for better pay. As a baseball fan used to seeing the best players getting guaranteed contracts in the 100s of millions, these contract totals are shameful (again, relative to the popularity of the sport).

Think you meant to say that football players are less grossly overpaid than baseball players.

 

[drvenner]

How 'bout a Mount Flushmore?
Kiffin
Dooley
?
?

Hamilton

Todd Raleigh

If I can't put Raleigh there, then I guess that I would go with Special Ed

 

[jave36]

King endorsed the final product. Pointed out that this movie is a continuation of what he's written, not a rehash.

They paid him a boat load of money, of course he'll endorse it.

They are fundamentally changing the character of Roland. The whole point of the whole series (and the Childe Roland poem, per SK) is to show the dogged, unwavering determination of Roland. 10 seconds into the preview, you have Jake begging Roland "please don't abandon your quest, we need you to finish it." I don't care if they continue the story and the events look different than the book, but abandoning the key themes and totally reversing THE foundational character trait of the main character is unacceptable to me, especially if the reason is so they can just shoehorn the story into a Hollywood template (main character will save the world, main character becomes unsure if he wants to continue to make sacrifices, side character inspires him to continue, happy ending).

Hollywood has butchered almost every single good book they've gotten their hands on, and the end result is ALWAYS a shallow, predictable story that disappoints. The exceptions are when the producers and directors decide to adhere strictly to the source material.

And the whole "this is actually a continuation" bit is a cheap excuse to do exactly what Hollywood always does. Strip down a best selling story that millions upon millions of people already love and let the egotistical directors and producers "put their own spin on it." I hope the movie flops (like almost every butchered book does) so one day Hollywood might say "hey we make more money when we stick to the source material closer like LOTR Harry Potter and Twilight).

 

[jave36]

The dark tower movie is not a basic re-telling of he book series. Here is a link (spoilers if you have not read the books) to a verge story, which explains the concept. I won't say what it is to avoid posting spoilers.

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...-tower-stephen-king-film-adaptation-explainer

Ron Howard is the producer and from everything I have read, King is behind the production team doing the movies the way that they are. King could be towing the company line, but I doubt it.

Can't wait to see them

King has never cared if Hollywood butchers his books. In fact Orson Scott Card is the only author I've heard of who held out for any period of time on movie rights.

 

[85SugarVol]

Someone is pissy this morning.

 

[butchna]

They paid him a boat load of money, of course he'll endorse it.

They are fundamentally changing the character of Roland. The whole point of the whole series (and the Childe Roland poem, per SK) is to show the dogged, unwavering determination of Roland. 10 seconds into the preview, you have Jake begging Roland "please don't abandon your quest, we need you to finish it." I don't care if they continue the story and the events look different than the book, but abandoning the key themes and totally reversing THE foundational character trait of the main character is unacceptable to me, especially if the reason is so they can just shoehorn the story into a Hollywood template (main character will save the world, main character becomes unsure if he wants to continue to make sacrifices, side character inspires him to continue, happy ending).

Hollywood has butchered almost every single good book they've gotten their hands on, and the end result is ALWAYS a shallow, predictable story that disappoints. The exceptions are when the producers and directors decide to adhere strictly to the source material.

And the whole "this is actually a continuation" bit is a cheap excuse to do exactly what Hollywood always does. Strip down a best selling story that millions upon millions of people already love and let the egotistical directors and producers "put their own spin on it." I hope the movie flops (like almost every butchered book does) so one day Hollywood might say "hey we make more money when we stick to the source material closer like LOTR Harry Potter and Twilight).

As long as you have an open mind.

 

[jave36]

As long as you have an open mind.

I had an open mind before dozens of examples helped me make up my mind. I'll redbox it to see the Idris Elba awesomeness. Hopefully the TV show will be good, I'll stay open minded about that one

 

[bignewt]

And the whole "this is actually a continuation" bit is a cheap excuse to do exactly what Hollywood always does. Strip down a best selling story that millions upon millions of people already love and let the egotistical directors and producers "put their own spin on it." I hope the movie flops (like almost every butchered book does) so one day Hollywood might say "hey we make more money when we stick to the source material closer like LOTR Harry Potter and Twilight).

I agree with this thought, seems like a cop out to leave out much of what made the series great, namely the drawing of the three.

 

[drvenner]

King has never cared if Hollywood butchers his books. In fact Orson Scott Card is the only author I've heard of who held out for any period of time on movie rights.

George R.R. Martin also gave HBO complete free reign for Game of Thrones. It is now a big mess because the book that "corresponds" to Season 6 is still not out and HBO is about to air Season 7. Martin has been quoted as saying that HBO could bring aliens into the series and there would be nothing that he could do about it.

 

[Rishvol]

George R.R. Martin also gave HBO complete free reign for Game of Thrones. It is now a big mess because the book that "corresponds" to Season 6 is still not out and HBO is about to air Season 7. Martin has been quoted as saying that HBO could bring aliens into the series and there would be nothing that he could do about it.

That's on Martin he's been writing that series for 30 years if it's not done by now it won't get done