Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

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Nash_Vol97 said:
Update on Shy:



http://tennessee.247sports.com/Arti...-recovery-of-Tennessee-Vols-football-53137833
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also, FWIW

Jones continued to avoid anything resembling a timetable on the situation, though.

“No. It’s just when his body is ready to go,” the coach said. “He has to continue to do his due diligence, like he has. But you can’t put a timeframe on it. You can’t rush. You can’t rush his body. We know that he’s doing everything possible, and our training staff is doing everything possible, as well.”
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Chief Vol 13 said:
The guys on the Finebaum show are idiots. John says best case scenario for Tennessee this year is 8-4. While my personal prediction is 8-4, that is in no way a ceiling for this team. Get tired of some of these so called experts who in reality really don't know a lot about whatever team they're talking about like the guys on the Finebaum show. Apologies for the random post.
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It's not a stretch to say that guys like that couldn't name 10 players on the team right now. So don't listen to it man. It's fodder and nonsense.

Still a lot of talent on this roster. And when you have an O Line you can do some things.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
It's not a stretch to say that guys like that couldn't name 10 players on the team right now. So don't listen to it man. It's fodder and nonsense.

Still a lot of talent on this roster. And when you have an O Line you can do some things.
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Agreed. What annoys me the most is not necessarily the ignorance, but the disrespect in general for the Tennessee program. To your last point, I think the o-line could very well be the strength of this team. When you're strong up front on both sides of the ball like Tennessee is, you'll be able to compete with most anyone with the talent that has been accumulated on this team.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
It's not a stretch to say that guys like that couldn't name 10 players on the team right now. So don't listen to it man. It's fodder and nonsense.

Still a lot of talent on this roster. And when you have an O Line you can do some things.
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Fact. Almost impossible to judge what we will be this year due to injuries and guys playing out of position. Nobody has seen 5 star Kongbo or Phillips at DE, nor have they seen Taylor. They haven't seen the receivers we have outside of JJ, all of whom are very talented. They have no clue what we have at QB, even though we have two very highly rated quarterbacks. They haven't seen Ty Chandler, and they are drastically ignoring what JK can do. They haven't discussed the importance of Wiggins coming in, nor have they talked about the massive coaching upgrades that have been made. It is safe to say that no one in the media has any clue how good we can be this year. Neither do we for that matter, but watching people put us below KY is just insane. We have loads of talent and if QD or JG are as good as we think they can be, sky is the limit imo.
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
The guys on the Finebaum show are idiots. John says best case scenario for Tennessee this year is 8-4. While my personal prediction is 8-4, that is in no way a ceiling for this team. Get tired of some of these so called experts who in reality really don't know a lot about whatever team they're talking about like the guys on the Finebaum show. Apologies for the random post.
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All the so called football experts on the SEC Network lack a real understanding of football. They are entertainers. Even former players no longer study the game. ESPN does not want analysis of players and games. They want ratings and hits on their website and Twitter. They want to stir the pot. It is why program ratings are falling with exception of the actual games.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Vol "fans" were actually in twitter today arguing that Dooley is a better coach than Butch.
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I couldn't let that one stand and had to destroy that guy. I can't handle the negativity so it's made me go FULLButch when I am more like 75% on the bandwagon.

I just can't let so many "fans" tear our guys down so it makes me go full defensive.
 
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Siap good call by staff to take McBride over Bubba Thompson due to MLB concerns. He we went top 30 yesterday so we would have been in a really bad spot
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
I couldn't let that one stand and had to destroy that guy. I can't handle the negativity so it's made me go FULLButch when I am more like 75% on the bandwagon.

I just can't let so many "fans" tear our guys down so it makes me go full defensive.
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It's insane. These people are hurting recruiting, and they know it, they just don't care. They criticize Butch about everything, never acknowledge the positives, over exaggerate the negatives, and refuse to give Butch credit for anything. I get that Butch has himself to blame for some of it with some of the dumb things he's said, but Vol twitter is awful.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
It's insane. These people are hurting recruiting, and they know it, they just don't care. They criticize Butch about everything, never acknowledge the positives, over exaggerate the negatives, and refuse to give Butch credit for anything. I get that Butch has himself to blame for some of it with some of the dumb things he's said, but Vol twitter is awful.
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The sad thing is that they will do that and then criticize Butch for misses in recruiting..... which could be directly related to them. Some people will never be happy and that's fine to each their own but they don't need to be any sort of mouthpiece for the program.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
It's insane. These people are hurting recruiting, and they know it, they just don't care. They criticize Butch about everything, never acknowledge the positives, over exaggerate the negatives, and refuse to give Butch credit for anything. I get that Butch has himself to blame for some of it with some of the dumb things he's said, but Vol twitter is awful.
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Recruiting is actually sitting pretty nice right now. We're on track to have our best class since 2015 and maybe 2nd best since Butch has been here.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Recruiting is actually sitting pretty nice right now. We're on track to have our best class since 2015 and maybe 2nd best since Butch has been here.
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It is now, but Mike Griffith has stated that Butch has said that Vol twitter hurt them last year, and even tho it's going well now, I'm sure there are some kids that continuously see TN "fans" mocking Butch and calling for him to be fired on twitter every day and that affects them.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
It is now, but Mike Griffith has stated that Butch has said that Vol twitter hurt them last year, and even tho it's going well now, I'm sure there are some kids that continuously see TN "fans" mocking Butch and calling for him to be fired on twitter every day and that affects them.
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I don't think recruits spend quite as much time following the Houston Kresses and Vol Twitter fans as the rest of us hardcore fans do.

When they're not playing football, doing school, or handling recruiting, they're probably mostly concerned with getting laid lol
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Fact. Almost impossible to judge what we will be this year due to injuries and guys playing out of position. Nobody has seen 5 star Kongbo or Phillips at DE, nor have they seen Taylor. They haven't seen the receivers we have outside of JJ, all of whom are very talented. They have no clue what we have at QB, even though we have two very highly rated quarterbacks. They haven't seen Ty Chandler, and they are drastically ignoring what JK can do. They haven't discussed the importance of Wiggins coming in, nor have they talked about the massive coaching upgrades that have been made. It is safe to say that no one in the media has any clue how good we can be this year. Neither do we for that matter, but watching people put us below KY is just insane. We have loads of talent and if QD or JG are as good as we think they can be, sky is the limit imo.
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Ace said:
All the so called football experts on the SEC Network lack a real understanding of football. They are entertainers. Even former players no longer study the game. ESPN does not want analysis of players and games. They want ratings and hits on their website and Twitter. They want to stir the pot. It is why program ratings are falling with exception of the actual games.
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Spot on posts, IMO.

I am not aware of many serious sports fans that tune into ESPN/SEC to learn more. They might tune in to be entertained, most times poorly. Many of us never watch the idiot box's self proclaimed experts. I ignore most projections of W/L except Vegas. They dig a bit deeper and do so on all teams. Not always right, but are more times than not.

I sincerely hope everybody takes this team for granted because the team and coaches themselves are not. Butch seriously upgraded the staff including S&C. Player upgrades due to maturity of existing as well as better replacements at most positions except at one DE, one RB, one WR, and potentially at QB. Would not have been the case if JRM, Cam, K-Mac and Shy had been healthy all season. We would have been talking about the possibility of a NC last year and the media would have been loving up on the Vols and Butch this season. Of course that would have meant we had a real S&C program last season.

If they can get pushes at the three offensive positions, which looks highly possible IMO - this season will be robust. Need one of the stable of RB's to be a suitable back-up to Kelly. I see zero drop off at WR and QB. TE usage will improve. O-line will be stout. QB will be different, not worse IMO.

Barnett is not replaceable. Will need a tandem at DE to improve the overall performance, which should happen if we have strong push from DT's. Here is where Hoke will make the difference along with the return of healthy DT's. Barnett got it done regardless of the performance of the rest of the D-line. Cannot even imagine the number of sacks he would have ended up with had there been a strong D-line at other positions to eliminate some double teams. Legendary - file him away in your memory banks forever like Eric Berry and PM.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I don't think recruits spend quite as much time following the Houston Kresses and Vol Twitter fans as the rest of us hardcore fans do.

When they're not playing football, doing school, or handling recruiting, they're probably mostly concerned with getting laid lol
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I think you just like to argue 🤔
 
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