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Dude. That was my first game too. I was 7. That's crazy.

Main thing I remember is the Akron mascot dropped a water bottle someone handed him through his mascot head. Looked like he peed all over himself. High comedy to a kid.

I am pretty sure that was my first game at Neyland too. I was 9. I grew up outside Memphis, and my brother was a senior in high school. He was considering UT, and he ultimately decided to go there. I had actually seen UT play Memphis at the Liberty Bowl in 1988. But I clearly remember wondering what a Zip was.

I will most likely not be at a game this year for the first time since my senior year in high school- 20 years ago.
 
Are we not going to offer this kid? Isn't he kin to Lance?


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I am pretty sure that was my first game at Neyland too. I was 9. I grew up outside Memphis, and my brother was a senior in high school. He was considering UT, and he ultimately decided to go there. I had actually seen UT play Memphis at the Liberty Bowl in 1988. But I clearly remember wondering what a Zip was.

I will most likely not be at a game this year for the first time since my senior year in high school- 20 years ago.

Thats really cool. That day cost me a ton of money, but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

I'm sure in 30 years a ton of kids will say Indiana St. was their first game.
 
If Justin Martin starts/plays a down tomorrow, Shoop needs to sit.

Smh not going to sit him because of Tech game. He has most potential of any corner and was clear #1 in spring and fall camp. So they either believe he can do it vs traditional offenses or the options behind him are bad. They have shown in past they will bench him if they have better options.
 
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Smh not going to sit him because of Tech game. He has most potential of any corner and was clear #1 in spring and fall camp. So they either believe he can do it vs traditional offenses or the options behind him are bad. They have shown in past they will bench him if they have better options.

That's where I am with him. He deserves another shot unless all the good vibes about him in the off season were made up Bs.
 
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If Martin starts, I agree that is alarming. I don't care if he plays late after the game is decided.

I think putting Martin out there opposite Gaulden was more about saving Moseley's shoulders for later games rather than him taking on Ga Tech runningbacks on the edge.
 
Smh not going to sit him because of Tech game. He has most potential of any corner and was clear #1 in spring and fall camp. So they either believe he can do it vs traditional offenses or the options behind him are bad. They have shown in past they will bench him if they have better options.

I said a few posts after, there was sarcasm to this... This game may actually be good for Martin to improve and get in a groove with game time speed. Something was clearly off last week and he looked awful...
 
Certainly needs to keep it more. He's not going to be Dobbs, but there were times that he had 7-8 yards if he kept it. If not, they need to adjust the offense a bit

Think they already have. FWIW, they adjusted it to suit Dobbs strengths also.
 
Smh not going to sit him because of Tech game. He has most potential of any corner and was clear #1 in spring and fall camp. So they either believe he can do it vs traditional offenses or the options behind him are bad. They have shown in past they will bench him if they have better options.

Butch said Martin will play a lot and expects him to play well today. No way he's gonna yank him after one game. I'm down on him like everyone else but we will see how he reacts today.
 
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Right, but remember when Worley would never run. We need a little more carries to keep the defense honest. Twice a game won't do it

I agree. He defended his athleticism and mobility all offseason. He needs to show it on gameday because it opens up the offense so effectively. When he ran Monday night, it really produced results on the drive because suddenly the defense had that to worry about.
 
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Right, but remember when Worley would never run. We need a little more carries to keep the defense honest. Twice a game won't do it

Agree 100%. I wonder how much is on the coaches telling them not to pull it to avoid injury? I'm almost positive they did that to Dobbs in all the "little" games last year, which caused me a lot of heartburn.
 
I agree. He defended his athleticism and mobility all offseason. He needs to show it on gameday because it opens up the offense so effectively. When he ran Monday night, it really produced results on the drive because suddenly the defense had that to worry about.

When did Dormady say anything about his ability to run?
 
Right, but remember when Worley would never run. We need a little more carries to keep the defense honest. Twice a game won't do it

But think of how many plays we ran to the ratio he kept it. In a normal game we run more plays which equates to him keeping it more.
 
If the zone read option is gonna be a part of our game plan, which clearly it is, the QB has to keep it early and often.

You are a good poster, but I need to correct you here. Dormady doesn't decide to keep it unless his read key tells him to. Now every shotgun run we have (inside zone, outside zone, split flow zone, etc.) looks like a read option if you watch the QB/RB, but they aren't.

I went back and watched the offensive plays and we ran 6 option plays (4 read option, 2 inverted veer) and 2-3 RPO's. Dormady made the right decision based on his read 5 out of 6 times. The only one he missed was on the touchdown in the first OT. I have included the time stamps of the run plays in Freak's Offensive play-by-play video (thanks Freak).

0:33 Give Correct
3:42 Give Correct
6:28 Keep Correct
11:05 Give Correct
11:23 Keep Correct
11:51 Give Incorrect (still scored)
 
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You are a good poster, but I need to correct you here. Dormady doesn't decide to keep it unless his read key tells him to. Now every shotgun run we have (inside zone, outside zone, split flow zone, etc.) looks like a read option if you watch the QB/RB, but they aren't.

I went back and watched the offensive plays and we ran 6 option plays (4 read option, 2 inverted veer) and 2-3 RPO's. Dormady made the right decision based on his read 5 out of 6 times. The only one he missed was on the touchdown in the first OT. I have included the time stamps of the run plays in Freak's Offensive play-by-play video (thanks Freak).

0:33 Give Correct
3:42 Give Correct
6:28 Keep Correct
11:05 Give Correct
11:23 Keep Correct
11:51 Give Incorrect (still scored)

I will defer to you. The one at 0:33, when the play happened I told my son he should've pulled it, then when they showed the replay I said, nope, he did the right thing.

So how often do we leave the end unblocked but it isn't an option play? We only had 6 option plays the whole game?
 
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