Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

[Bassmaster_Vol]

https://atozsportsnashville.com/butch-jones-cliche-follow/

 

[SSVol]

Dude face plants more than anyone I've ever seen. How do you play MLB and have 2 tackles?

Your opponent fears your awesomeness and runs outside or passes deep?

 

[AAVFL]

Jimmy Sexton would not agree to a fake extension. Not in a million years.

You've gotta extend him or fire him cause he didn't get extended last year. The only other possibility is that he wins enough for sexton to shop him to another school.

Take it ot leave it. It’s def possibly going to be a tough situation. Don’t envy Currie

 

[Lovesomebigorange]

LWS has depressed me reminding everyone how incompetent the admin is, boosters, etc. During Grudenmania boosters supposedly decided they had enough and went after Gruden and it was Hart who stood in the way (if that is somewhat true)- well how can those same boosters think our football team being the joke of the week now for the 4th or 5th time under Butch?!

You'd think they would say look at the revenue when we are just mediocre, imagine if we were winning titles again.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Already said the first 3 were bad but he got hot calling plays after that

So he calls good plays 50% of the time inside the 10?

 

[BigZiti09]

Take it ot leave it. It’s def possibly going to be a tough situation. Don’t envy Currie

$10.5 million at stake.

Fire him = $7.5 million owed to CBJ.

He leaves for another job = CBJ owes UT $3 million

 

[Vols4us]

https://atozsportsnashville.com/butch-jones-cliche-follow/

Good post. If the writer had been to the RF a few years ago through today he would have read the same thing numerous times. Glad to see somebody in media call it out. Butch keeps giving everybody clues about what is off in his own words presser after presser, interview after interview.

 

[SSVol]

$10.5 million at stake.

Fire him = $7.5 million owed to CBJ.

He leaves for another job = CBJ owes UT $3 million

Or in the interest of both, you agree to waive or reduce his buyout if he leaves voluntarily.

 

[volfanCLT]

$10.5 million at stake.

Fire him = $7.5 million owed to CBJ.

He leaves for another job = CBJ owes UT $3 million

....and if he doesn't leave for another job?

 

[drvenner]

Dude face plants more than anyone I've ever seen. How do you play MLB and have 2 tackles?

Face said face plants. LOL

 

[KPT_VFL]

I think it will end in a mutual parting of ways... butch has a new AD, a new agent, he will probably never have the full fan support ever again unless he beats Bama and wins out. Just seems likely IMO that he moves somewhere after the season.

 

[BigZiti09]

....and if he doesn't leave for another job?

Gets fired and we pay him. Or he wins enough to get an extension.

Kicking the can down the road is the least desirable option.

 

[volfanCLT]

Gets fired and we pay him. Or he wins enough to get an extension.

Kicking the can down the road is the least desirable option.

I'm with you on this one. If he's not the guy, don't prolong the inevitable.

 

[BigZiti09]

I think it will end in a mutual parting of ways... butch has a new AD, a new agent, he will probably never have the full fan support ever again unless he beats Bama and wins out. Just seems likely IMO that he moves somewhere after the season.

Jimmy Sexton isn't gonna let CBJ just walk away. CBJ is getting a new contract or a buyout.

 

[KPT_VFL]

Jimmy Sexton isn't gonna let CBJ just walk away. CBJ is getting a new contract or a buyout.

hes not getting an extension unless he wins 10.

 

[McGeesPub]

Take it ot leave it. It’s def possibly going to be a tough situation. Don’t envy Currie

Assuming the money is there, which it should be, not really a tough situation at all. Just depends on how meddlesome the boosters are.

 

[BigZiti09]

hes not getting an extension unless he wins 10.

Crazy talk

 

[KPT_VFL]

Crazy talk

We're doomed then.

 

[NMVol]

You all best hope that Coach Jones doesn't end up at Missouri.

 

[KPT_VFL]

You all best hope that Coach Jones doesn't end up at Missouri.

Would have less talent there to horribly manage.

 

[McGeesPub]

You all best hope that Coach Jones doesn't end up at Missouri.

It'd mean that they love to collect mediocre ex-Tennessee coaches.

 

[AAVFL]

$10.5 million at stake.

Fire him = $7.5 million owed to CBJ.

He leaves for another job = CBJ owes UT $3 million

Think he would leave?

 

[BigZiti09]

Think he would leave?

Idk. It's hard to imagine a scenario where he wins enough that warrants a school being willing to pay us $3m to hire him away and then pay his $4m salary.

 

[BruinVol]

So he calls good plays 50% of the time inside the 10?

Perhaps he evolved in that 4th QT right before our eyes

 

[SSVol]

....and if he doesn't leave for another job?

When the pain of doing nothing exceeds the pain of change, you'll change. 'You' in this context is either side, and the definition of pain is simply health vs wealth.

If Butch is miserable, he'll be looking for a way out. If he isn't winning, he'll be miserable. Money will make you tolerate a certain amount of misery, but the satisfaction of wealth comes with diminishing returns. The difference in your quality of life with $5M in the bank vs $50M in the bank isn't much in practical terms, but enjoying life is priceless.

Currie has a similar set of considerations driven almost exclusively by the number of wins. The lower that number goes, the more empty Neyland becomes, the louder the bloodlust gets, and the more donors are willing to pony up the $$ to fix it. Currie's math is actually more objective and somewhat easier to quantify than Butch's. And Currie's math becomes even easier if Butch is miserable and wants out.

I'd say the worst cast scenario season outcome is 8-4. For each loss greater than 4, or each win greater than 8, the decisions become much easier for both sides.