Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

[BruinVol]

Uh, no I didn't. He hasn't transferred has he? I don't think that he will either.

If he transfers a couple weeks into his RS Freshman year, then yeah he doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of an SEC championship team.

But he hasn't transferred. And I don't think that he will.

Again, this whole thing is being made out to be a bigger deal than it is. Not surprising you are clinging to this topic. Gotta stop beating the carcass of Bob Shoop just long enough to do your favorite thing which is speculation/conjecture of a worst case scenario.

Oh so you used conjecture when questioning his leadership. Ok.

Same way I said I wouldn't blame him for leaving.

 

[bignewt]

Its been one game and already yall talking JG transferring. Only on VN.

 

[Billy Antrim]

It won't be anywhere near 185 at landfall.

The Weather Channel just said the construction cranes are designed for 145 mph winds, and IIRC they said there are nine of them in Miami. Huge damage if one comes crashing down.

 

[BruinVol]

Its been one game and already yall talking JG transferring. Only on VN.

Damn NCAA rules make it this way. I hate that loophole

 

[BigZiti09]

Oh so you used conjecture when questioning his leadership. Ok.

Same way I said I wouldn't blame him for leaving.

I didn't question his leadership. I think he stays. I've said that.

 

[BigZiti09]

Its been one game and already yall talking JG transferring. Only on VN.

This.

 

[buckfama]

They should make these LOI binding like military contracts. It would end a lot of this drama. The recruits would make darn sure that they wanted to attend a school before signing and it would end all this transferring bull crap because someone's feewings got hurt over playing time.

He is still part of the team, he needs to act like it stop being selfish and thinking of himself if that's truly what's happening here. He needs to give 100% in practice AND on the sideline supporting his team and show that he deserves the starting spot. He needs to be a leader to his teammates and show his coaches that he can be that leader he wants to be. If he didn't want competition he should have went to a FCS school where he could continue to be the star like in HS and have everyone cater to him and pat him on the back and tell him how great he is.

Otherwise he can sit his rear on the pine and they can recruit someone else.

 

[BruinVol]

I didn't question his leadership. I think he stays. I've said that.

Lol. Dude you are being hypocritical. You used the word IF and now you are criticizing others for using the same word. You might want to stop it.

 

[BigZiti09]

Lol. Dude you are being hypocritical. You used the word IF and now you are made others are using the same word. You might want to stop it.

Bruin, I made one post using "if" and then went on to say I don't think that happens anyway.

You are the "if" king.

"IF" Butch Jones is placating then.....

"IF" promises were made...

"IF" he is gonna transfer.....

"IF" he was told such and such....

"IF" he was lead to believe....

You know none of it. And you are sitting around waiting for something as simple as Butch Jones saying he's playing both QB's vs a 1-AA opponent to use as criticism for a situation you know nothing about.

 

[butchna]

I get that but its tough for a kid that thinks they are a future NFL draft to wait 4 years to start. Especially when some trust is lost in the coaching staff which seems to have clearly happened imo.

How would he be waiting FOUR years? You have five to play four. "SEEMS to have CLEARLY HAPPENED IMO". That encapsulates the fun with the English language which is Bruin. :lol:

 

[BruinVol]

Bruin, I made one post using "if" and then went on to say I don't think that happens anyway.

You are the "if" king.

"IF" Butch Jones is placating then.....

"IF" promises were made...

"IF" he is gonna transfer.....

"IF" he was told such and such....

"IF" he was lead to believe....

You know none of it. And you are sitting around waiting for something as simple as Butch Jones saying he's playing both QB's vs a 1-AA opponent to use as criticism for a situation you know nothing about.

I don't mind posters talking about what ifs.

What if the game is moved?

What if our record is this?

What if this player gets hurt who do we play?


It makes this board fun.

I damn sure ain't going to use "if"
Statements and then criticize others for using them like you my friend.

 

[BruinVol]

How would he be waiting FOUR years? You have five to play four. "SEEMS to have CLEARLY HAPPENED IMO". That encapsulates the fun with the English language which is Bruin. :lol:

He would be waiting to start until year 4. That's a long damn time to wait for a kid that thought he needed a broadway production for his commitment annoucment. Clearly believes he is good enough to play at a high level in less time.

 

[BigZiti09]

I don't mind posters talking about what ifs.

What if the game is moved?

What if our record is this?

What if this player gets hurt who do we play?


It makes this board fun.

I damn sure ain't going to use "if"
Statements and then criticize others for using them like you my friend.

Those 3 examples are fine.

You know exactly what I'm talking about so I'm not gonna bother spelling it out for you.

 

[Glitch]

Overreaction

For poops and giggles, I looked up the definition of overreaction and one of the definitions was BruinVol.

Weird.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I'm sorry but if this is the case don't let the door hit you on the way out. If you want to be the man then win the job. If you can't beat out Dormady either wait your turn or work harder on the field and film room

I wonder if he ever had a chance to beat Dormady. From Butch's comments it sounds like Dormady has been the guy since January. Butch is conservative, Dormady is the safe pick. If JG goes off tomorrow and QD still looks average, a lot of folks are going to be calling for JG to play in Gainesville. We'll see what happens.

 

[BruinVol]

Those 3 examples are fine.

And so is "if JG transfers"

You obviously agree since you jumped right in with conjecture about it.

 

[LA Vol]

And it's quite possible different coaches would have made different decisions. Our coaches decided to go with QD. It was, for their reasons, the right decision for our team. If Dabo has to make the same call or Saban has to make the same call or any number of other coaches had to make the call, I'm not sure the outcome would be the same. Coaches are different in a lot of ways.

How many SEC schools do you think JG could be starting for this year as a RSFr? Florida? Kentucky? LSU?

I wasn't commenting on the decision about which QB should start. My point was: we need both QD and JG this year. Otherwise, we'll be one injury away from playing a 3* true FR who was signed last-minute. That would be a season changer.

 

[buckfama]

I don't mind posters talking about what ifs.

What if the game is moved?

What if our record is this?

What if this player gets hurt who do we play?


It makes this board fun.

I damn sure ain't going to use "if"
Statements and then criticize others for using them like you my friend.

Serious question.. from the nature of your posts how do you consider this "fun"?

Bruin, I don't know you personally but it seems like you expect the worse in everything Vol related. I could never enjoy something with the outlook you portray on here.

Maybe I miss something in your post or your intent doesn't come through but that's just my take. And that negativity you project is what gets me and everyone riled up because it's constant and unrelenting. Not to mention that you make claims that you portray as facts and then quickly throw an "Imo" on the end and then argue like it's a fact afterwards.

Just like you stated earlier that "trust has been broken and that is clearly what has happened here imo."

No one outside the program knows what has been said, promised or even hinted at. To say that is just reckless and something to argue about.

The only thing we as fans have to go by is JG's actions on the sidelines and he acted like a spooled kid who didn't get what he wanted for his birthday. Everything else is speculation.

That's why board like this are starved for insider info, no one knows what happens behind those closed doors and locker rooms.

But rumors are sexier than facts I suppose.

Edit.. and I'm not saying this attacking you. But constant negativity will get nothing but negativity back. You get back what you put out.

 

[Billy Antrim]

I think Guarantano was frustrated because the offense was performing so poorly and he thought he could do a better job. Natural to be frustrated as a competitor.

I would hope that JG is intelligent enough to understand that if we had had not one, but two QBs going through first game jitters, not moving the ball, we would have lost the game probably 35-14.

 

[Vol464]

I haven’t read back through the thread to see your basis for this, so I’ll ask. Why should no one blame him?

Freak, you took the bruin bait. Thought you were more seasoned than that.

 

[BruinVol]

Serious question.. from the nature of your posts how do you consider this "fun"?

Bruin, I don't know you personally but it seems like you expect the worse in everything Vol related. I could never enjoy something with the outlook you portray on here.

Maybe I miss something in your post or your intent doesn't come through but that's just my take. And that negativity you project is what gets me and everyone riled up because it's constant and unrelenting. Not to mention that you make claims that you portray as facts and then quickly throw an "Imo" on the end and then argue like it's a fact afterwards.

Just like you stated earlier that "trust has been broken and that is clearly what has happened here imo."

No one outside the program knows what has been said, promised or even hinted at. To say that is just reckless and something to argue about.

The only thing we as fans have to go by is JG's actions on the sidelines and he acted like a spooled kid who didn't get what he wanted for his birthday. Everything else is speculation.

That's why board like this are starved for insider info, no one knows what happens behind those closed doors and locker rooms.

But rumors are sexier than facts I suppose.

BF,

I post things all the time that get no response that are positive type thoughts.

I have posted a number of times of how pleased I was the kicking game and discipline shown with the lack of TOs and penalties. Even said that was a good sign going forward.

The problem with the majority of posters in this thread are they can't handle any kind of negative post so they fight fight fight with them. I am not one to just sit back and say only positive things as I post what I feel good or bad. The responses make my bad thoughts seem much worse than they are. I call a spade a spade good or bad .

 

[ChattaTNVol]

I wasn't commenting on the decision about which QB should start. My point was: we need both QD and JG this year. Otherwise, we'll be one injury away from playing a 3* true FR who was signed last-minute. That would be a season changer.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to argue. I was just curious. Clearly, most of us think we have a great situation with QD & JG, a great situation for us. Sumlin had a great situation a couple years ago, mismanaged it and lost both guys. I was trying to look at it from the individual player's perspective.

 

[Ron Swanson]

I wonder if he ever had a chance to beat Dormady. From Butch's comments it sounds like Dormady has been the guy since January. Butch is conservative, Dormady is the safe pick. If JG goes off tomorrow and QD still looks average, a lot of folks are going to be calling for JG to play in Gainesville. We'll see what happens.

Personally, I think QD was nervous and played like it in the 1st half. But as we saw, he played much better in the 2nd half. He'll perform much better as the season goes on, could be very good to great. And that's not to say JG wouldn't be very good if he were the starting QB. But that game the other day wasn't the normal first game for a QB for many obvious reasons.

We need this scrimmage this weekend to get both a lot of reps and confidence. JG might not be the starter but we're going to need him to be ready, QB's get hurt all the time, the cliche is right, he's one snap away. Better be ready. I can't wait to see both guys tomorrow, I'm excited. GBO!

 

[BigZiti09]

It's a shame our coach has to publicly cater to him by promising playing time. Backup QBs shoudnt be promised anything. Jones trying to make sure he isn't at a Jc next week which is very possible. Wouldn't blame him at all.

Especially when some trust is lost in the coaching staff which seems to have clearly happened imo.

Hopefully the trust level isn't completely shot and a rerecruting can keep him here

You don't know any of this to be true. None.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Remember that time when Vol QB legend Joshua Dobbs was a freshman and 4th string?

Hmmm...