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VolsDoc81TX said:
I come from a single parent household. My Mom averaged $14k annual income. She qualified for but refused any government aid. First government aid that she would allow was my student loans. She only allowed that because I promised her that I would make good on all my student loan debt.

I worked very hard to make good that promise. I still work hard for my family.

You want nice things in America, work hard, get an education and be prosperous.

My Mother's version of the American dream was for her children to have a "better life " than she did. What she taught my sisters and I was invaluable. I miss her... :salute:
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Thanks for sharing. I have a similar story, but my mother also had some health issues and did accept some government assistance. We had food stamps and lived in government housing, sometimes. She did whatever she had to do to keep us fed and safe and she was very loving and generous. She also instilled in us our work ethic and the importance of education. Two out of three of us are very successful. My youngest sister has issues, but that is more because of who she chose as a partner, than because of what my mother taught her. There were times that we would not have eaten without government assistance. I was ashamed of it at the time, but now I am proud of my mom for doing what she had to do. Some entitlements are deserved and there are many that are not. It is very tough to decide, obviously.
 
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bignewt said:
A lot goes on now the Greeks frowned upon, Nobody is perfect but they pretty much had it figured out way before Jesus hit the scene.
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The Greeks made many wonderful discoveries and advancements. It doesn't mean they had anything figured out. They fell just like all civilizations on this earth have done and will do. Nothing of this Earth lasts forever. If you don't believe anything happens after you die then no worries for you. I personally believe that there is something after this life and my faith in Jesus Christ gives me comfort. Many of the Greeks came to believe in Christ as well, so they didn't have it ALL figured out way before Jesus. Just some of it.
 
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Why you hating so much on ancient Greeks? They were top dog for 350 years and were super advanced given the time. I am just saying that in today's dollars they have us beat. They took comfort in their gods also and believed in an afterlife. They also weren't perfect and guess what neither are we by a long shot.

My point was that every empire thinks they are hot stuff till they ain't.
 
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bignewt said:
Why you hating so much on ancient Greeks? They were top dog for 350 years and were super advanced given the time. I am just saying that in today's dollars they have us beat. They took comfort in their gods also and believed in an afterlife. They also weren't perfect and guess what neither are we by a long shot.

My point was that every empire thinks they are hot stuff till they ain't.
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I'm really not hating on the Greeks. They are responsible for many things that we still use today. Their military tactics are still studied and put into practice. They were the sliced bread of the ancient world. We will eventually go the way of the Greeks, and the Romans, and the Persians, and all the other great civilizations. However, right now, there is no other country on this Earth or in history that offers as much opportunity to its citizens and even to immigrants than our country. If you are willing to come here legally and work hard, there is nowhere else in the world where you can have the freedoms that you can have in the US. We are far from perfect but there is nothing else that compares to the US.
 
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Glitch said:
My mom was also a single mom. I watched her work hard day in and day out. She had help along the way but she taught me to work hard and earn what I get in this world. She also taught me to be kind and generous to others. No matter how bad you think you might have it, there is somebody worse off than you. You might have nothing, but someone out there has less than that. There are plenty of ways to help without spending money.

Your mom sounds like she was a fantastic lady. Kudos to her for raising her kids to be the best they can be. :good!:
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Sounds like your Mom was too.
 
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drvenner said:
Thanks for sharing. I have a similar story, but my mother also had some health issues and did accept some government assistance. We had food stamps and lived in government housing, sometimes. She did whatever she had to do to keep us fed and safe and she was very loving and generous. She also instilled in us our work ethic and the importance of education. Two out of three of us are very successful. My youngest sister has issues, but that is more because of who she chose as a partner, than because of what my mother taught her. There were times that we would not have eaten without government assistance. I was ashamed of it at the time, but now I am proud of my mom for doing what she had to do. Some entitlements are deserved and there are many that are not. It is very tough to decide, obviously.
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Yes, my Mom said that assistance was there for those in need. She said that if anything happened that she couldn't work, then we would gladly accept the help.

We went on vacation on change. She set aside all her coin change. After several years, we went to Panama City Beach for a week. I remember the look on the hotel desk clerks face when my Mom settled the bill with change...it was priceless. My sister asked why she didn't get paper money from the bank. My Mom said that it was more fun this way. :)
 
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Glitch said:
Ayn Rand said the same thing in "Atlas Shrugged" a decade before that in 1957. It is coming true before our eyes. Darth doesn't believe in God or the devil so it doesn't make sense to him.
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It makes sense, I just don't agree with it lol it's basically just your run of the mill sermon from the 1960s from an old guy feeling threatened by an increase of public freedom and ability to choose their own lifestyle.

One of the founding principles of this country is that people get believe/practice what they want religiously. Or to not do so.

There's no way to stop 90% of the stuff he's complaining about without putting in place rules to limit/infringe on other's freedoms.

And I'm willing to bet 80-90% of the people who listen to this and feel so persuaded just gloss right over the part where he talks badly about war.
 
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bignewt said:
Them Greeks that invented democracy had it going on for quite a while.
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Greek democracy was a joke though. It was only for the rich elites of the city state. The vast, vast majority of people had no voice. There were still slaves...like lots of them. In practice it was more of an oligarchy.

And that's not to mention the fact that democracy really only existed in Athens for a pretty short window. Most of the other city states were also oligarchies or dictatorships/monarchies.


For my money, give me the Ancient Egyptians any day. Think about this: Cleopatra (who was really a Greek, btw) actually lived closer to man walking on the moon than to the first of the great pyramids being built (by a couple hundred years). That's how old the pyramids are.

And they're still here. And the world's best scientists and engineers, even working with computers, still can't figure out how the hell the Egyptians made them using the tech available to them at the time.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
It makes sense, I just don't agree with it lol it's basically just your run of the mill sermon from the 1960s from an old guy feeling threatened by an increase of public freedom and ability to choose their own lifestyle.

One of the founding principles of this country is that people get believe/practice what they want religiously. Or to not do so.

There's no way to stop 90% of the stuff he's complaining about without putting in place rules to limit/infringe on other's freedoms.

And I'm willing to bet 80-90% of the people who listen to this and feel so persuaded just gloss right over the part where he talks badly about war.
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Spreading God's word is the only way to counter what we are seeing in our society. It cannot be stopped with human laws. We have proven that we cannot legislate morality. Choosing not to engage in what the world now sees as acceptable and loving those in your sphere of influence is all most of us can do. Showing them that they don't have to conform to what society says and being blessed for it is the best weapon. You don't believe that though so I just have to hope that you are a good person for the sake of being good.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Greek democracy was a joke though. It was only for the rich elites of the city state. The vast, vast majority of people had no voice. There were still slaves...like lots of them. In practice it was more of an oligarchy.

And that's not to mention the fact that democracy really only existed in Athens for a pretty short window. Most of the other city states were also oligarchies or dictatorships/monarchies.


For my money, give me the Ancient Egyptians any day. Think about this: Cleopatra (who was really a Greek, btw) actually lived closer to man walking on the moon than to the first of the great pyramids being built (by a couple hundred years). That's how old the pyramids are.

And they're still here. And the world's best scientists and engineers, even working with computers, still can't figure out how the hell the Egyptians made them using the tech available to them at the time.
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Hebrew slaves duh
 
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Glitch...A pastor/mentor of mine always taught me that the only thing God can't help, is an unbelieving heart. Everybody will believe one day. That day will be too late.
 
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I fought unbelief for many years..Then something happened to me that I could not deny or explain. I understand the fight, but I did fight it, I never completely gave in to it, and God showed me mercy and delivered me.
 
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Rishvol said:
Or a battlefield there are no atheists on a battlefield
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Great argument against foxholes there 😂


But seriously, there are lots of examples of nonbelievers on battlefields. Pat Tillman off the top of my head. Ted Williams too. Those are just the famous ones.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Glitch...A pastor/mentor of mine always taught me that the only thing God can't help, is an unbelieving heart. Everybody will believe one day. That day will be too late.
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Agreed. If you aren't willing to see and acknowledge God's love in your life then you won't see. I try to be a good Christian so others can see God's love. I probably fail as often as I succeed but I continue to pray that God uses me for His purposes. Whatever those may be. His will be done.
 
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