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Darth_Shiveman said:
Great argument against foxholes there 😂


But seriously, there are lots of examples of nonbelievers on battlefields. Pat Tillman off the top of my head. Ted Williams too. Those are just the famous ones.
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When the rounds are exploding and the bullets are whipping by, I'll bet even your examples prayed to somebody. I haven't personally experienced, God be praised but I have seen and heard the explosions. I wouldn't have wanted to be any closer than I was.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
lol timeline there is off there though. The first of the great pyramids would've been there for at least a couple hundred years by the time Joseph showed up.

Crazy to think about.
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It's still slaves though. Every monument in Egypt was built by slaves. The designers were Egyptian (which is what I think you mean) but it was built by slaves
 
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Glitch said:
When the rounds are exploding and the bullets are whipping by, I'll bet even your examples prayed to somebody. I haven't personally experienced, God be praised but I have seen and heard the explosions. I wouldn't have wanted to be any closer than I was.
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That's just projecting your own feelings onto someone else though. You can't really say what another person is thinking or feeling and it's kind of condescending to do so.

That's the equivalent of saying "man, I bet christians/Jews/muslims/buddhists/etc who have bullets whizzing by them hope they don't get hit because surely they're not TRULY convinced of what the believe and must feel some primal compulsion that death is the end of it all."

Different people come to terms with their mortality in different ways. Some need religion for that. Some don't. Some sit on the fence. Some never come to terms with mortality.

Either way, people of many different faiths/nonfaiths have served our military well in the past. No need to put them in boxes as to what they can/should believe or not. The important thing is that they do a good job, not that they hold beliefs that help us win arguments.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Great argument against foxholes there 😂


But seriously, there are lots of examples of nonbelievers on battlefields. Pat Tillman off the top of my head. Ted Williams too. Those are just the famous ones.
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I did not know that about Ted Williams. He was a legit war hero, too. In fact, if he hadn't lost those years to the war, he may have been the greastest hitter of all time (which some still think he is, his stats would have left no doubt). I guess that explains the cryogenic stuff that happened after his death
 
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Rishvol said:
It's still slaves though. Every monument in Egypt was built by slaves. The designers were Egyptian (which is what I think you mean) but it was built by slaves
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Two problems here:

1. There's not really a consensus among historians or archaeologists that the workers who built the pyramids were slaves, per se. There's some evidence of farmers and the like being employed seasonally for public works in ancient Egypt since farming in the Nile River Vallery was highly seasonally work.

2. Even if they did just use slave labor, there are some engineering feats we have NO idea how they managed. Things like getting some of the huge stones towards the top of the pyramid still puzzle engineers.

I'm probably getting the numbers a little wrong here, but I saw one model where they calculated that to build a ramp that sloped gently enough to get such a massive stone up that high (using the man/animal power available at the time), they would have had to make an earthen ramp miles long and displace tones and tones of dirt to do it. It doesn't seem all that feasible.


Some engineers have created some models that show how it could have bean possible that they used an intricate system of canals and waterways to move them there with much, much less manpower, but there's no hard evidence that this was actually done.


It's not all that crazy to think if we brought together some of the best engineers on earth today, gave them only the tools available to the ancient Egyptians, and told them to build another great pyramid, that they would struggle mightily. And those are guys who have roughly 4,000 years of accumulated knowledge on their side.
 
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Obviously Horus was throwing some sand up that looked like the pyramids and Geb was like oh hey yeah that's what's up then the pyramids solidified. Then Sehkmet was like oh hey no not my litter box and shaped the Sphinx (the pharaoh crown to honor Ra) and Geb was like yeah whatever I guess I'll solidify that too. Then every god made sand castles of themselves which got solidified by Geb.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Two problems here:

1. There's not really a consensus among historians or archaeologists that the workers who built the pyramids were slaves, per se. There's some evidence of farmers and the like being employed seasonally for public works in ancient Egypt since farming in the Nile River Vallery was highly seasonally work.

2. Even if they did just use slave labor, there are some engineering feats we have NO idea how they managed. Things like getting some of the huge stones towards the top of the pyramid still puzzle engineers.

I'm probably getting the numbers a little wrong here, but I saw one model where they calculated that to build a ramp that sloped gently enough to get such a massive stone up that high (using the man/animal power available at the time), they would have had to make an earthen ramp miles long and displace tones and tones of dirt to do it. It doesn't seem all that feasible.


Some engineers have created some models that show how it could have bean possible that they used an intricate system of canals and waterways to move them there with much, much less manpower, but there's no hard evidence that this was actually done.


It's not all that crazy to think if we brought together some of the best engineers on earth today, gave them only the tools available to the ancient Egyptians, and told them to build another great pyramid, that they would struggle mightily. And those are guys who have roughly 4,000 years of accumulated knowledge on their side.
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Rishvol said:
Obviously Horus was throwing some sand up that looked like the pyramids and Geb was like oh hey yeah that's what's up then the pyramids solidified. Then Sehkmet was like oh hey no not my litter box and shaped the Sphinx (the pharaoh crown to honor Ra) and Geb was like yeah whatever I guess I'll solidify that too. Then every god made sand castles of themselves which got solidified by Geb.
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Two equally valid explanations 😂😂😂
 
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Rishvol said:
He was also a career scientist and he used his writing as a way to vent because of the corruption of science. For the record I respect you for being a scientist (I'm getting my teachers license in biology) but one thing I was told by multiple professors is they hate odd numbers. They said it feels like they're "cheating" or "being lazy" (their words) so every time I see "95%" or "97%" I think that survey is made up.
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Oh I completely agree that science is not 100% right. And I never felt like I was being disrespected by you or anyone. It just caught my attention and so I decided to ask and talk about it. It is not my intention to disrespect you as well. And also, I respect you for desiring to teach the subject. Is it right to assume you will be teaching grade level biology?

I am getting ready to obtain my graduate degree in chemistry at UTK and have performed years of research which included countless scientific articles being read (mostly in chemistry). I have learned a lot about the corruption in todays science. If there is one thing I could tell people now a days about any scientific research is for people to not just go out there and accept everything they are told as fact. There is sooooo much "science" being shoved out there that gets taken as fact by the public that I am sure is complete and total crap. Why? Because scientist want money and the only way to obtain money is to obtain results. And a lot of scientists, not all because there are actual scientists who care about truth, are willing to fudge results to make the science say what they want it to say in order to obtain money.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
Oh I completely agree that science is not 100% right. And I never felt like I was being disrespected by you or anyone. It just caught my attention and so I decided to ask and talk about it. It is not my intention to disrespect you as well. And also, I respect you for desiring to teach the subject. Is it right to assume you will be teaching grade level biology?

I am getting ready to obtain my graduate degree in chemistry at UTK and have performed years of research which included countless scientific articles being read (mostly in chemistry). I have learned a lot about the corruption in todays science. If there is one thing I could tell people now a days about any scientific research is for people to not just go out there and accept everything they are told as fact. There is sooooo much "science" being shoved out there that gets taken as fact by the public that I am sure is complete and total crap. Why? Because scientist want money and the only way to obtain money is to obtain results. And a lot of scientists, not all because there are actual scientists who care about truth, are willing to fudge results to make the science say what they want it to say in order to obtain money.
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Bless you for going into chemistry (I hate it with a passion) and that's one thing I have to tell people regularly. Not only do you have to read the article but you have to research the author (to see if the have an agenda) and you have to research whoever paid for the research. The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks is an excellent real life example of science corruption (without her we don't have many of the medicines we have today)
 
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Glitch said:
Also, time travel like in the Outlander series.
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My wife absolutely loves that show. I always figured it was some sappy romance show. Then she talked me into watching an episode and I was hooked. Lots of action and if u pay attention u may actually learn something, too.
 
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Rishvol said:
Bless you for going into chemistry (I hate it with a passion) and that's one thing I have to tell people regularly. Not only do you have to read the article but you have to research the author (to see if the have an agenda) and you have to research whoever paid for the research. The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks is an excellent real life example of science corruption (without her we don't have many of the medicines we have today)
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Well I could never go teach in a public school. I'd probably go nuts because of the kids lol so thank you for wanting and willing to do that. We need good teachers of science like you in our schools. And yep, exactly. I do that as well with all of my friends. It can be tedious, but knowing the truth is 1000% better than believing and fighting for a lie.
 
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The Dog said:
My wife absolutely loves that show. I always figured it was some sappy romance show. Then she talked me into watching an episode and I was hooked. Lots of action and if u pay attention u may actually learn something, too.
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You should read the books. Or better yet, get the audio book. The lady that reads them does amazing Scottish accents. She really makes the book come alive.
 
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Glitch said:
You should read the books. Or better yet, get the audio book. The lady that reads them does amazing Scottish accents. She really makes the book come alive.
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Believe it or not, I prefer reading books over audio books. I"m sure that's I shock considering my posts. In fact, I just finished reading the Storm of Swords of George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire series(aka the Game of Thrones series) for the 2nd time. I will check them out. Do u know the name of the author?
 
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The Dog said:
Believe it or not, I prefer reading books over audio books. I"m sure that's I shock considering my posts. In fact, I just finished reading the Storm of Swords of George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire series(aka the Game of Thrones series) for the 2nd time. I will check them out. Do u know the name of the author?
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Dogs can read? Just stay away from picture books
 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony

Not arguing Islamic terror isn't more common nowadays or that their holy texts aren't more conducive to nurturing the type of extremism that leads to terror.


Just saying there are plenty of Christian nutcases too. There are Buddhist ones too. And Hindu ones. And Shinto ones. The dude who shot up a summer camp in Norway a few years ago was a radical right wing nutter who described himself religiously as an "Odinist." Fundamentalism is dangerous regardless of what religion it's coming from.

Edit: And FTR, McVeigh is the most successful domestic terrorist in our country's history. That's not exactly insignificant.
 
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The Dog said:
Believe it or not, I prefer reading books over audio books. I"m sure that's I shock considering my posts. In fact, I just finished reading the Storm of Swords of George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire series(aka the Game of Thrones series) for the 2nd time. I will check them out. Do u know the name of the author?
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Diana Gabaldon
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony

Not arguing Islamic terror isn't more common nowadays or that their holy texts aren't more conducive to nurturing the type of extremism that leads to terror.


Just saying there are plenty of Christian nutcases too. There are Buddhist ones too. And Hindu ones. And Shinto ones. The dude who shot up a summer camp in Norway a few years ago was a radical right wing nutter who described himself religiously as an "Odinist." Fundamentalism is dangerous regardless of what religion it's coming from.

Edit: And FTR, McVeigh is the most successful domestic terrorist in our country's history. That's not exactly insignificant.
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Nutcases claiming to be acting in the name of Christianity is very different from having entire denominations dedicated to the violent elimination of two of the world's other major religions.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
Well I could never go teach in a public school. I'd probably go nuts because of the kids lol so thank you for wanting and willing to do that. We need good teachers of science like you in our schools. And yep, exactly. I do that as well with all of my friends. It can be tedious, but knowing the truth is 1000% better than believing and fighting for a lie.
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I'm going into to coach lol. But I love biology and love teaching people about it. The real struggle is not the students but the parents. Little Jimmy is better than every other student so he needs extra care. (Not all parents are like this but the ones who are are hated by every teacher)
 
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