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I heard someone on the radio yesterday doing the same thing. Comparing a bunch of fascist street thugs to the brave men and women that volunteered to fight fascism in the form of Hitler and the Third Reich is about the most insulting thing I can think of.

The antifa movement is basically a conglomeration of communists and anarchists. They were doing battle with the socialist Nazi wannabes in Charlottesville but their end game is to destroy the Constitution and our way of life as we know it. They hate capitalism and everything America was founded on. They are a very dangerous group because they have some serious power backing them. The wannabe Nazis are the least of our worries in this country. They are irrelevant and always will be. The antifa crowd is the real danger.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
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Amy of you guys ever been through a depression? If so, how long were you in it and how did you finally come out of it?

Also, why do you guys think that in America, a place where we have so much compared to the rest of the world, that we are statistically more likely to suffer from depression than other parts of the world?
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1) Yes I was suicidal for several years and was commited. Talking didn't work for me (as welp as therapy, psychiatrists, tons of churches and prayer, etc.) and only finding the correct medicine finally put me on the right path. Have been better ever since

2) Personally I believe part of it has to do with us working so much and not taking care of ourselves. We value work and money so much that we lose track of priorities, especially compared to many EU countries. Also think mental health is continuing to fall for some reason. *coughsnowflakes*
 
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Glitch said:
I heard someone on the radio yesterday doing the same thing. Comparing a bunch of fascist street thugs to the brave men and women that volunteered to fight fascism in the form of Hitler and the Third Reich is about the most insulting thing I can think of.

The antifa movement is basically a conglomeration of communists and anarchists. They were doing battle with the socialist Nazi wannabes in Charlottesville but their end game is to destroy the Constitution and our way of life as we know it. They hate capitalism and everything America was founded on. They are a very dangerous group because they have some serious power backing them. The wannabe Nazis are the least of our worries in this country. They are irrelevant and always will be. The antifa crowd is the real danger.
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The media glorifies them.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
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Amy of you guys ever been through a depression? If so, how long were you in it and how did you finally come out of it?

Also, why do you guys think that in America, a place where we have so much compared to the rest of the world, that we are statistically more likely to suffer from depression than other parts of the world?
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I have not experienced depression myself but there is a history in my family and my wife has a leaning towards it as well. Hers is more not feeling worthwhile even though I tell her everyday that the kids and I need her not only for what she does but just emotionally.

As far as America, I have to echo McGill. We run after material things so much but when we finally get what we were after there is always something newer and shinier. They are idols that never give us any deeper fulfilment than a fleeting momentary pleasure. It is like a drug. What happens when a person comes down off a high? They are depressed and need to chase after the next high.
 
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Glitch said:
I have not experienced depression myself but there is a history in my family and my wife has a leaning towards it as well. Hers is more not feeling worthwhile even though I tell her everyday that the kids and I need her not only for what she does but just emotionally.

As far as America, I have to echo McGill. We run after material things so much but when we finally get what we were after there is always something newer and shinier. They are idols that never give us any deeper fulfilment than a fleeting momentary pleasure. It is like a drug. What happens when a person comes down off a high? They are depressed and need to chase after the next high.
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I will say that I know there is a huge difference in suffering from clinical depression. That is a chemical imbalance that requires medicine to restore hormonal equilibrium...or a outright miracle. I have witnessed people who have been healed of it, and have never been afflicted with it since.
 
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Catbone said:
1) Yes I was suicidal for several years and was commited. Talking didn't work for me (as welp as therapy, psychiatrists, tons of churches and prayer, etc.) and only finding the correct medicine finally put me on the right path. Have been better ever since

2) Personally I believe part of it has to do with us working so much and not taking care of ourselves. We value work and money so much that we lose track of priorities, especially compared to many EU countries. Also think mental health is continuing to fall for some reason. *coughsnowflakes*
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These are good points Cat. Glad you're still with us bud. Were you diagnosed with a medical condition? (Don't answer if too personal)
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
New topic:

Amy of you guys ever been through a depression? If so, how long were you in it and how did you finally come out of it?

Also, why do you guys think that in America, a place where we have so much compared to the rest of the world, that we are statistically more likely to suffer from depression than other parts of the world?
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I think Paul summed it up best with this scripture:

6 But godliness actually is a means of great gain when accompanied by contentment.

1 Timothy 6:6 | NASB

Lack of godliness and lack of contentment will make you a miserable person.
 
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Glitch said:
I have not experienced depression myself but there is a history in my family and my wife has a leaning towards it as well. Hers is more not feeling worthwhile even though I tell her everyday that the kids and I need her not only for what she does but just emotionally.

As far as America, I have to echo McGill. We run after material things so much but when we finally get what we were after there is always something newer and shinier. They are idols that never give us any deeper fulfilment than a fleeting momentary pleasure. It is like a drug. What happens when a person comes down off a high? They are depressed and need to chase after the next high.
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Excellent points
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I will say that I know there is a huge difference in suffering from clinical depression. That is a chemical imbalance that requires medicine to restore hormonal equilibrium...or a outright miracle. I have witnessed people who have been healed of it, and have never been afflicted with it since.
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Agreed. True clinical depression, like what Catbone described, is a true chemical imbalance and not just feeling unfulfilled. Medicine is usually the only way to truly fix that type of depression.
 
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Glitch said:
Agreed. True clinical depression, like what Catbone described, is a true chemical imbalance and not just feeling unfulfilled. Medicine is usually the only way to truly fix that type of depression.
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That is spot on Glitch! It's also genetic in my family.

And thank you bass, I appreciate the kind words. I was officially diagnosed with clinical depression and anxiety.
 
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Catbone said:
That is spot on Glitch! It's also genetic in my family.

And thank you bass, I appreciate the kind words. I was officially diagnosed with clinical depression and anxiety.
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It is more common than most think and comes in varying degrees. It sounds like yours was pretty bad. Glad you are still with us and cheering for the Vols for half of each game! :)
 
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It hurts me when people push aside mental illness. To me, a brain isn't much different than the rest of the body. It can get out of whack like anything else...and sometimes it requires medical help to fix it. Sure, a lot of things are probably over prescribed and over diagnosed, but there are some serious issues I think people ignore because of whatever stupid stigmas we've put on it.

The brain is scarily powerful. My sister dealt with anorexia. Not the light, Hollywood, cured in 30 days at a retreat type of anorexia. The kind that took more than twenty years of constant fighting and at one point had her in an ICU weighing less than 70lbs as a grown 5'7" woman. It took years and years of therapy, treatment, medicine, and ultimately finding a way to focus her brain on other things to finally bring her back. She missed her entire teens and twenties fighting her own mind.
 
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WallyBalls said:
It hurts me when people push aside mental illness. To me, a brain isn't much different than the rest of the body. It can get out of whack like anything else...and sometimes it requires medical help to fix it. Sure, a lot of things are probably over prescribed and over diagnosed, but there are some serious issues I think people ignore because of whatever stupid stigmas we've put on it.

The brain is scarily powerful. My sister dealt with anorexia. Not the light, Hollywood, cured in 30 days at a retreat type of anorexia. The kind that took more than twenty years of constant fighting and at one point had her in an ICU weighing less than 70lbs as a grown 5'7" woman. It took years and years of therapy, treatment, medicine, and ultimately finding a way to focus her brain on other things to finally bring her back. She missed her entire teens and twenties fighting her own mind.
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Yes. The mind can be a powerful weapon or a devastating enemy. If something is off in your brain it can really affect your overall well-being. It is the hub and center of everything. Nothing works without a signal from the brain so if it is firing off bad signals then the body will not behave as it should.
 
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Catbone said:
That is spot on Glitch! It's also genetic in my family.

And thank you bass, I appreciate the kind words. I was officially diagnosed with clinical depression and anxiety.
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My stepmother and several of her family have it. That is the reason I am familiar with it.
 
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There's always been a negative stigma surrounding mental health. It's a difficult area to treat/care for.

We in the medical field have a long way to go. Standard procedure for SI is to bring the patient to the ER (by police in cuffs). We sign paperwork to medically hold the patient for their safety. This involves placing patient in paper scrubs, removing all possessions, restrict visitors and contact until evaluation for placement into a facility. This can take several days. So this patient is basically incarcerated in the ER until an available room at an outside facility opens.

This process discourages the very people who need help from seeking it. I could write a book about all that is wrong with the process and the effects on care. It's very frustrating when all you want to do is help the person.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
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Also, why do you guys think that in America, a place where we have so much compared to the rest of the world, that we are statistically more likely to suffer from depression than other parts of the world?
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Standard of living is a lot higher in a lot of European countries than the US, FWIW. It's not like he the rest of the world has nothing compared to us.



But the interesting thing IMO is that the countries with the highest levels of reported happiness among the people living there are often the really poor ones. I guess people are more thankful for what they have and happier because of it in those cases.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Standard of living is a lot higher in a lot of European countries than the US, FWIW. It's not like he the rest of the world has nothing compared to us.



But the interesting thing IMO is that the countries with the highest levels of reported happiness among the people living there are often the really poor ones. I guess people are more thankful for what they have and happier because of it in those cases.
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You're second point hit at what I meant. I recently heard a lecture that said a statistic showed that the place with the least depression was a very poor city in Aftica
 
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mrorange211 said:
I have known some people who use the drug to help with anxiety and insomnia. So when they attempted to quit those symptoms became immeasurably worse. It's a shame we live in a system where people can't do one drug that is far less harmful to your body, but instead have to ingest prescriptions that destroy you from the inside out.
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I agree with it's benefits for sure. I'm sure one day the laws will change, but for now it is an illegal substance, and if is a rule on your team not to do it or you get in trouble then so be it. I can't use it because of my job but I do not see the harm it it.
 
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I personally would hope that there would be no more legalization until our federal government allows more research in this country as to the benefits and risks. Right now good research is hard to come by.
 
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BigorangeBoy said:
I personally would hope that there would be no more legalization until our federal government allows more research in this country as to the benefits and risks. Right now good research is hard to come by.
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Research shouldn't dictate legality. Regardless of what research says, this is a matter of personal freedom and even unhealthy choices should be legal.
 
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