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bignewt said:
I am equating alcohol with hard drugs nothing more. Saying one should be legal because it is okay is ridiculous to me. Who makes that decision? Money does.
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They are not the same.

Not saying money doesn't play into things but hardcore street drugs aren't the same as alcohol.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Are you saying that pot dealers would then find some other criminal activity to participate in for their job? Maybe so. And if those folks committed crimes they should go to jail. But no longer with jails be filled with people who possessed or sold marijuana. And that number is significant go look it up.

And I think you're overestimating Joe Schmoe weed dealer being some kind of bad guy criminal. He's selling weed because he likes to smoke it and it's easy, there's a high demand. He's not some mastermind gang member out killing folks.
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Seriously? Joe Schmoe is selling it because he wants to make MONEY. He may be partaking in his own product, but he isn't selling it to smoke. It's a lifestyle. It's to supplement income. They want money like everyone else in the world, and when someone screws him over, it can get testy. Please don't be that naive.
 
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Drinking too much can harm your health. Excessive alcohol use led to approximately 88,000 deaths and 2.5 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2006 – 2010, shortening the lives of those who died by an average of 30 years.Jul 25, 2016
CDC - Fact Sheets-Alcohol Use And Health - Alcohol

From 2014 to 2015, heroin overdose death rates increased by 20.6%, with nearly 13,000 people dying in 2015.

I did pretty good in math.

Oh and let's include legal opiod prescriptions:
Opioid prescribing continues to fuel the epidemic. Today, nearly half of all U.S. opioid overdose deaths involve a prescription opioid.1 In 2015, more than 15,000 people died from overdoses involving prescription opioids.
 
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bignewt said:
Has a loved one killed a child with their car? Died choking on their own vomit? Lost their home, their family all their money? Have they been gang raped because they were passed out drunk? We can play this game forever...only difference the numbers are 100 fold more when it comes to alcohol because there are far more alcoholics and lives affected by it than hard drug use. Let's just stop comparing which is more evil.
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If you can't comprehend the difference between the addiction to alcohol vs meth, heroin, prescription pills, morphine, etc. There is really no need to continue this discussion. It's an absolute moronic comparison. No one with one lick of common Sense can't make the distinction.
 
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bignewt said:
I am equating alcohol with hard drugs nothing more. Saying one should be legal because it is okay is ridiculous to me. Who makes that decision? Money does.
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You can responsibly use alcohol. The cases where people can responsibly use highly addictive narcotics is anomaly.
 
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I passed my insurance exams today. Done with testing. Now it's time for firm specific training and getting down to serious biness!
 
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VolGee4 said:
Seriously? Joe Schmoe is selling it because he wants to make MONEY. He may be partaking in his own product, but he isn't selling it to smoke. It's a lifestyle. It's to supplement income. They want money like everyone else in the world, and when someone screws him over, it can get testy. Please don't be that naive.
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You and Ziti keep calling me naive. How so? I don't get your point.

So the weed dealer wants money? Duh. What's your point?
 
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Glitch said:
The goal of the people behind antifa is to fundamentally alter the American way of life. They want to completely get rid of the 2nd Amendment. They want to reduce the 10th Amendment to zero. Mostly, they hate the 1st Amendment because it gives everyone the right to say what they feel and believe, no matter how backwards and hateful it us. Don't misunderstand me here, because I despise what they stand for. It goes against my very core beliefs. I do, however, believe that they have the right to feel that way. The antifa people have the right to feel the way they do as well. However, the antifa and white supremacist groups are more alike than they might like to believe. They are both trying to suppress the fundamental rights of another group of Americans. You can believe whatever you want to believe but I see the antifa as the more dangerous because they are working to silence any opinion but their approved message. They want to take our guns and free speech away and consolidate power in an already overreaching federal government. I pray that more people wake up and see the danger they pose before it is too late. Yes I am a smart person. There are lots smarter than me. However, I can see the Forrest for the trees here. The Klan is an irrelevant marginalized superminority with little polital influence. The antifa is back by very wealthy leftists that are seeking to destroy the fabric of this nation because they despise everything we stand for.
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I was laughing more at your argument about legalizing marijuana being a step towards abolishing the constitution and "our way of life."
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If you can't comprehend the difference between the addiction to alcohol vs meth, heroin, prescription pills, morphine, etc. There is really no need to continue this discussion. It's an absolute moronic comparison. No one with one lick of common Sense can't make the distinction.
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I guess i need a lick and you need to stop thinking inside the box.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
You and Ziti keep calling me naive. How so? I don't get your point.

So the weed dealer wants money? Duh. What's your point?
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I like you, Ron. This can be debated ad nauseum.

The point is that dope dealers don't it for the high. They do it for the money. Even if it's regulated, it won't stop the illegal sale and possession of marijuana because they still want to make money. I think states where it's not legalized are even trying to differentiate the users from the sellers, but it's more of a socio-economic issue. When you have street level business, then you sometimes get street level justice. I don't see that changing a whole lot with legalization.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I like you, Ron. This can be debated ad nauseum.

The point is that dope dealers don't it for the high. They do it for the money. Even if it's regulated, it won't stop the illegal sale and possession of marijuana because they still want to make money. I think states where it's not legalized are even trying to differentiate the users from the sellers, but it's more of a socio-economic issue. When you have street level business, then you sometimes get street level justice. I don't see that changing a whole lot with legalization.
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Who cares about pot dealers? Have you even pineapple expressed bro?
 
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VolGee4 said:
I like you, Ron. This can be debated ad nauseum.

The point is that dope dealers don't it for the high. They do it for the money. Even if it's regulated, it won't stop the illegal sale and possession of marijuana because they still want to make money. I think states where it's not legalized are even trying to differentiate the users from the sellers, but it's more of a socio-economic issue. When you have street level business, then you sometimes get street level justice. I don't see that changing a whole lot with legalization.
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But it will stop them from going to prison. Which will save tax payers A LOT of money. And users will choose to buy from stores or grow their own for the most part. Again, you seem to not be able to see the forest through the trees. It'll be better legalized.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I like you, Ron. This can be debated ad nauseum.

The point is that dope dealers don't it for the high. They do it for the money. Even if it's regulated, it won't stop the illegal sale and possession of marijuana because they still want to make money. I think states where it's not legalized are even trying to differentiate the users from the sellers, but it's more of a socio-economic issue. When you have street level business, then you sometimes get street level justice. I don't see that changing a whole lot with legalization.
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There would be so much less demand for illegal weed if everyone could get it from a dispensary. Dealing weed won't be profitable for most when anyone who wants it can go to the store and pick between dozens of strains.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
No I'm not for prohibition.
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I know you're not, that is kind of my point. Why are you against prohibition of alcohol, but ok with the ridiculous prohibition of marijuana? It is beyond redidculous. If I have misunderstood your position I apologize 🤠
 
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