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Anyone who poopoos alcohol addiction or the harm it can do needs to do some reading. Specifically about the physical dependencies it creates and the fact that withdrawal symptoms can straight up kill you. As far as I know opiates won't do that.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Lol. No you need to wake up if you think addiction to alcohol and addiction to meth or heroin is the same. There is 100% different levels of evil.
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I've consumed huge amounts of all those. At it's worst stage, alcohol abuse is just as bad. A lot of people like to justify alcohol because they like drinking socially and can do it without becoming addicted. Meth,crack and heroin and it's opiate offspring are more addictive initially, that is true, but at it's worst alcohol addiction effects are jyst as devastating.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Oh no doubt, I mentioned them in my post. It's all such a scam. It's an incredible disservice to the human race the way these pharmaceutical companies profit off of medicating illnesses instead of actually curing them. But there's no money in curing diseases. The money is in medicating people over and over and over and over. Putting them on 5 different pills they take twice a day for the rest of their lives. Most which have multiple side effects that require even more medicines.

And god forbid marijuana is legal, a plant that grows naturally and is a fantastic drug for many different illnesses. But they can't control it, they don't have patents, it can be grown in any backyard in america. That's a big problem for them. So let's continue to make Americans afraid of it..."It's a gateway drug", "It's addictive!", "we don't know the long term affects!", "It's evil!" "It ruins generations of lives!". All complete bs.
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I don't use MJ and have never done so and agree with you 100%. I can't understand how any Christian can look at the facts surrounding the addiction frequencies of pharmaceuticals and not be for MJ not being legalized.

I just had an uncle pass from cancer, on the prescribed pills he was in and out on weed he was up talking and eating to all of us. He told the person getting it for him to not worry about getting him more because he didn't want him to get caught. He died in agony and severe pain about a month later.

When you tell adults that they cannot make an informed decision for themselves eventually someone will make a decision for you that you don't like. I believe in freedom as long as it doesn't hurt someone else.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I've consumed huge amounts of all those. At it's worst stage, alcohol abuse is just as bad. A lot of people like to justify alcohol because they like drinking socially and can do it without becoming addicted. Meth,crack and heroin and it's opiate offspring are more addictive initially, that is true, but at it's worst alcohol addiction effects are jyst as devastating.
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So you think legalizing hard drugs is a good idea? You of all people I would think would be staunchly against it.

How many can function in society addicted to and use alcohol? How many can function on meth, heroin or other highly addictive drug? Anyone that advocates legalization of hard drugs is not thinking logically.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So you think legalizing hard drugs is a good idea? You of all people I would think would be staunchly against it.

How many can function in society addicted to and use alcohol? How many can function on meth, heroin or other highly addictive drug? Anyone that advocates legalization of hard drugs is not thinking logically.
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You cannot function in society addicted to alcohol man that is why people get help or die.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
That's exactly my point. We're wasting time arguing about a small problem.
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So your solution is to let everyone have their heroin meth and stuff. Who's going to pay when they OD in the ditch? Who's going to purchase their drugs for them because they sure as hell won't be able to purchase their own.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So your solution is to let everyone have their heroin meth and stuff. Who's going to pay when they OD in the ditch? Who's going to purchase their drugs for them because they sure as hell won't be able to purchase their own.
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I said it hours ago, fine, leave those drugs illegal. It's not worth arguing over. Let's just legalize marijuana federally. What's your argument against that?
 
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Ron Swanson said:
I said it hours ago, fine, leave those drugs illegal. It's not worth arguing over. Let's just legalize marijuana federally. What's your argument against that?
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And I've said many times I'm ok with MJ. I don't look at mj any different than alcohol. I've seen the affects of hard drugs and alcohol and hard drugs is on a totally different level.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
But it will stop them from going to prison. Which will save tax payers A LOT of money. And users will choose to buy from stores or grow their own for the most part. Again, you seem to not be able to see the forest through the trees. It'll be better legalized.
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I just disagree. It won't stop them from going to prison. They will be prosecuted when they illegally sell marijuana when regulated laws are in place. They will also be prosecuted when they carry out street justice. It's just not that simple. Again, it's a socioeconomic issue where poverty becomes a part of it. People still need to find money. It's not going to end some of our problems.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So your solution is to let everyone have their heroin meth and stuff. Who's going to pay when they OD in the ditch? Who's going to purchase their drugs for them because they sure as hell won't be able to purchase their own.
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When they die? I guess we bury them. Sure would be cheaper than giving them 3 squares a day for years and years for "free".

They would pay for their own drugs. And if they stole to get money they would go to jail for theft. If they killed someone they would go to jail for murder.

Look I'm not an expert on how it would all work I just know doing drugs are victimless crimes and I don't think we should lock people up for that. And I know making drugs legal would save taxpayers a lot of money. The in's and out's would have to be explained by someone else.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I just disagree. It won't stop them from going to prison. They will be prosecuted when they illegally sell marijuana when regulated laws are in place. They will also be prosecuted when they carry out street justice. It's just not that simple. Again, it's a socioeconomic issue where poverty becomes a part of it. People still need to find money. It's not going to end some of our problems.
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Who are they going to be selling it to? Their customer base for weed will be basically nonexistent. Much fewer customers means much fewer dealers.
 
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Glitch said:
The antifa are for anything that erodes our society.
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So since antifa is pro legalization it erodes society?


It sounds like you're trying to tiptoe around making an argument that legalizing pot will destroy the constitution and our way of life because dragging antifa into it.

You haven't really said anything sensible about why legalizing pot would do any of those things. And you're ignoring that there are a lot of people on the right who are pro legalization as well.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
When they die? I guess we bury them. Sure would be cheaper than giving them 3 squares a day for years and years for "free".

They would pay for their own drugs. And if they stole to get money they would go to jail for theft. If they killed someone they would go to jail for murder.

Look I'm not an expert on how it would all work I just know doing drugs are victimless crimes and I don't think we should lock people up for that. And I know making drugs legal would save taxpayers a lot of money. The in's and out's would have to be explained by someone else.
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When you are a victim of drug induced crime it becomes more clear. What if your child that's killed? It's ok, they're going to jail. What if they broke into your home? It's ok, they're going to jail. Your insurance premiums will go up by 400% and your deductible will go to $10000 but that's ok. He's going to jail.
 
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If you are caught in possession of illegal drugs you should be forced to watch a bootleg video of Oprah and Rosanne engaged in raunchy acts of nastiness on a loop with your eyelids open. Which drugwould determine the length of time ypu wpuld have to watch the video. This would not require prison time. A short viewing should do the trick.

If you're into that sort of thing we'll just have to dig up something equally as horrifying that you won't care for. I'm not sure what could possibly be worse bit I'm sure there is something.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
We you are a victim of drug induced crime it becomes more clear. What if your child that's killed? It's ok, they're going to jail. What if they broke into your home? It's ok, they're going to jail. Your insurance premiums will go up by 400% and your deductible will go to $10000 but that's ok. He's going to jail.
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That's right, lock people up if they commit a crime that harms others like theft, murder, etc. Hate to break it to you but not everyone who does drugs murders their kid or steals their moms car. And we can't assume they will.

People are going to do drugs regardless if they're legal or not. Clearly the war on drugs has been a massive failure. Maybe it's time to try something else?
 
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Ron Swanson said:
That's right, lock people up if they commit a crime that harms others like theft, murder, etc. Hate to break it to you but not everyone who does drugs murders their kid or steals their moms car. And we can't assume they will.

People are going to do drugs regardless if they're legal or not. Clearly the war on drugs has been a massive failure. Maybe it's time to try something else?
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Why don't you go interview a district attorney as I did? Why don't you talk to cops like I have? A huge percentage of crime is to get funds to buy drugs. Legalization will do nothing but increase demand. Most hard core drug addicts can't function enough in society to support their habit. How is making it easier to aquire drugs going to help reduce this crime?
 
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jjay2518 said:
Who are they going to be selling it to? Their customer base for weed will be basically nonexistent. Much fewer customers means much fewer dealers.
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Sure, there might be less, but it doesn't eliminate it. But people who don't hold jobs have to find ways to get money.
 
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