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InVOLuntary said:
I agree but I think it calls into question the validity of the argument when they make the claim with absolute certainty that MJ doesn't cause cancer. While the volume of smoke is less with your average user, it still can cause cancer. I saw a study somewhere a few years ago that one joint was equivalent to a pack of cigarettes as far as carcinogens go. I guess maybe some of the bad stuff gets filtered out with a cigarette. My point is that neither is particularly good for you much the same as Newt pointed out that Twinkies and alcohol is.

Edit: I'll also point out that weed has the potential to make you eat more Twinkies too. :)
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Well yeah, I don't disagree with the fact that any type of smoke that you bring into your lungs is harmful in some way so I'm with you on that. IMO it's just a whole lot less harmful then cigarettes in terms of the amount of carcinogens that are inhaled.

I do love some twinkies. And swiss cake rolls. And donut sticks... hell, just give me anything little debbie. Especially after a joint. :)
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Oh brother..you like to drink don't you?
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Beer being legal isn't a valid reason to legalize weed.

Now, there's plenty of valid reasons to legalize it but alcohol being legal isn't one of them.

The people on here wanting to legalize weed are the same people telling us how dangerous alcohol is.

Sounds to me like the pro-weed people just want to be able to purchase weed legally. I'm cool with that. Just keep it real. Don't feed me these bs scenarios of pot dealers being entrepreneurs being held back by the government. Or in the case of legalizing hard drugs don't act like heroin addicts need it to be legal so they can stop spreading aids. Just keep it real. Y'all wanna be able to go to the store and get some pot.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Ok, then if we legalized meth, you would be for legalizing heroin as well?
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But to answer this dumb question..If you are legalizing any of the heavy hitters..you might as well legalize them all. I was primarily a meth addict, I didn't like coke or crack because it was too short, and I didnt't like heroin alone because I was a speed freak. I did like mixing Heroin and Meth to take the edge of the tweak. This whole argument is not about abstract things that I myself have never felt.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Beer being legal isn't a valid reason to legalize weed.

Now, there's plenty of valid reasons to legalize it but alcohol being legal isn't one of them.

The people on here wanting to legalize weed are the same people telling us how dangerous alcohol is.

Sounds to me like the pro-weed people just want to be able to purchase weed legally. I'm cool with that. Just keep it real. Don't feed me these bs scenarios of pot dealers being entrepreneurs being held back by the government. Don't act like heroin addicts need it to be legal so they can stop spreading aids. Just keep it real. Y'all wanna be able to go to the store and get some pot.
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Yes iut is. And evidently you don't pay attention well sometimes..Sooo let me make this clear to you one more time.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN USING ANY INTOXICATING SUBSTANCES FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN LEGITIMATE MEDICAL USE.

I also think you are a hypocrite if you consume alcohol and condemn other people to criminal status for using MJ. It is massive hypocricy for one to be legal while the other is not.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Beer being legal isn't a valid reason to legalize weed.

Now, there's plenty of valid reasons to legalize it but alcohol being legal isn't one of them.

The people on here wanting to legalize weed are the same people telling us how dangerous alcohol is.

Sounds to me like the pro-weed people just want to be able to purchase weed legally. I'm cool with that. Just keep it real. Don't feed me these bs scenarios of pot dealers being entrepreneurs being held back by the government. Or in the case of legalizing hard drugs don't act like heroin addicts need it to be legal so they can stop spreading aids. Just keep it real. Y'all wanna be able to go to the store and get some pot.
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I don't smoke or use MJ nor will I ever encourage someone to use it except for health reasons. Maybe some of us just want America to be truly free and not just free for those things we agree with, like being a fat lazy slob. Maybe I would rather the money being used, $30B-$50B, to take away fathers and mothers from their kids, to be used to help those families get out of the poverty they face in their lives.

Just because a person is pro weed doesn't mean they are a pothead. Maybe just maybe they are a rational person that forms their own opinion and that thinks beyond what a specific group tells them to think.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Yes iut is. And evidently you don't pay attention well sometimes..Sooo let me make this clear to you one more time.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN USING ANY INTOXICATING SUBSTANCES FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN LEGITIMATE MEDICAL USE.

I also think you are a hypocrite if you consume alcohol and condemn other people to criminal status for using MJ. It is massive hypocricy for one to be legal while the other is not.
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I don't condemn anyone for use of marijuana.

Hypocrisy isn't a reason. There are reasons but "alcohol is legal so weed should be legal" isn't a valid reason.

Per usual, you are overreacting without understanding what's being said.
 
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itsme said:
I don't smoke or use MJ nor will I ever encourage someone to use it except for health reasons. Maybe some of us just want America to be truly free and not just free for those things we agree with, like being a fat lazy slob. Maybe I would rather the money being used, $30B-$50B, to take away fathers and mothers from their kids, to be used to help those families get out of the poverty they face in their lives.

Just because a person is pro weed doesn't mean they are a pothead. Maybe just maybe they are a rational person that forms their own opinion and that thinks beyond what a specific group tells them to think.
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I'm for legalizing it by the way.

Taking fathers and mothers away from their kids? Give me a break. If you are going to jail for an extended amount of time it is because of bad decisions. Not because pot is illegal.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Yes iut is. And evidently you don't pay attention well sometimes..Sooo let me make this clear to you one more time.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN USING ANY INTOXICATING SUBSTANCES FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN LEGITIMATE MEDICAL USE.

I also think you are a hypocrite if you consume alcohol and condemn other people to criminal status for using MJ. It is massive hypocricy for one to be legal while the other is not.
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Why? I can have a glass of wine with dinner and go about my business. I am not drunk nor did I engage in drinking wine for the purpose of getting drunk. Perhaps I enjoy the taste of wine or whatever beverage. Beer, whiskey, etc. The point is alcohol can be enjoyed simply for its own sake.

Weed is smoked or consumed with the express purpose of getting high. Who smokes weed with an intent other than to get high?

Now there are plenty of people that abuse alcohol but many more that simply enjoy the drink for what it is. Weed has but one purpose and that is to alter your mental state.

Now I am sure some if the weed users will further demonize alcohol drinkers while weed users are sainted and placed in the Justice League as defenders of truth and virtue.

Also, I'm not a big fan of tobacco either. I can't stand it in any form. The smell of smoking or the residual product from dipping or chewing. All disgusting and useless in my opinion. Legalize pot for all I care. I don't use it nor will I ever. But let's not pretend that smoking a cigarette is the same as smoking a joint. The MJ is going to hinder your cognitive functions much more than a cigarette.
 
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Glitch said:
Why? I can have a glass of wine with dinner and go about my business. I am not drunk nor did I engage in drinking wine for the purpose of getting drunk. Perhaps I enjoy the taste of wine or whatever beverage. Beer, whiskey, etc. The point is alcohol can be enjoyed simply for its own sake.

Weed is smoked or consumed with the express purpose of getting high. Who smokes weed with an intent other than to get high?

Now there are plenty of people that abuse alcohol but many more that simply enjoy the drink for what it is. Weed has but one purpose and that is to alter your mental state.

Now I am sure some if the weed users will further demonize alcohol drinkers while weed users are sainted and placed in the Justice League as defenders of truth and virtue.

Also, I'm not a big fan of tobacco either. I can't stand it in any form. The smell of smoking or the residual product from dipping or chewing. All disgusting and useless in my opinion. Legalize pot for all I care. I don't use it nor will I ever. But let's not pretend that smoking a cigarette is the same as smoking a joint. The MJ is going to hinder your cognitive functions much more than a cigarette.
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I wonder what percentage of people drink just for the taste? I also wonder how many tastes gets you to blow a .08?
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I don't condemn anyone for use of marijuana.

Hypocrisy isn't a reason. There are reasons but "alcohol is legal so weed should be legal" isn't a valid reason.

Per usual, you are overreacting without understanding what's being said.
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I wasn't referring to "you" personally, and Hypocricy absolutely is a reason. Just because you don't want it to be, doesn't mean it isn't. If alcohol is legal, MJ should be legal. Be careful with that condescension ziti, it can cause really bad falls.
 
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Rishvol said:
You're giving Bruin a run for his money right now
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I can beat him I just know it.

Why is it such a strange question? Almost all people 18-34 drink to get drunk. When you get older you slow down and yes you have a beer or a glass of wine because you like the taste, of course a LOT of people when they get older just drink more to get hammered or are functioning alcoholics.

Now I smoke a little to watch a movie or clean the house or a hike or whatever. Guess what? I enjoy the taste too. Difference is I won't feel like hammered dog crap in the morning, in fact the effects will wear off in a few hours.
 
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Glitch said:
Why? I can have a glass of wine with dinner and go about my business. I am not drunk nor did I engage in drinking wine for the purpose of getting drunk. Perhaps I enjoy the taste of wine or whatever beverage. Beer, whiskey, etc. The point is alcohol can be enjoyed simply for its own sake.

Weed is smoked or consumed with the express purpose of getting high. Who smokes weed with an intent other than to get high?

Now there are plenty of people that abuse alcohol but many more that simply enjoy the drink for what it is. Weed has but one purpose and that is to alter your mental state.

Now I am sure some if the weed users will further demonize alcohol drinkers while weed users are sainted and placed in the Justice League as defenders of truth and virtue.

Also, I'm not a big fan of tobacco either. I can't stand it in any form. The smell of smoking or the residual product from dipping or chewing. All disgusting and useless in my opinion. Legalize pot for all I care. I don't use it nor will I ever. But let's not pretend that smoking a cigarette is the same as smoking a joint. The MJ is going to hinder your cognitive functions much more than a cigarette.
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If the government would legalize MJ you actually could smoke CBD marijuana and not get high and still deliver all of the benefits of the medical side. THC gets you high, but CBD does not. This form of marijuana is the type that has had all of the great success with preventing/stopping seizures in children. I for one would probably only consume CBD instead of THC given the choice.

Edit: that's a lie. I would still smoke MJ from time to time.
 
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Glitch said:
Why? I can have a glass of wine with dinner and go about my business. I am not drunk nor did I engage in drinking wine for the purpose of getting drunk. Perhaps I enjoy the taste of wine or whatever beverage. Beer, whiskey, etc. The point is alcohol can be enjoyed simply for its own sake.

Weed is smoked or consumed with the express purpose of getting high. Who smokes weed with an intent other than to get high?

Now there are plenty of people that abuse alcohol but many more that simply enjoy the drink for what it is. Weed has but one purpose and that is to alter your mental state.

Now I am sure some if the weed users will further demonize alcohol drinkers while weed users are sainted and placed in the Justice League as defenders of truth and virtue.

Also, I'm not a big fan of tobacco either. I can't stand it in any form. The smell of smoking or the residual product from dipping or chewing. All disgusting and useless in my opinion. Legalize pot for all I care. I don't use it nor will I ever. But let's not pretend that smoking a cigarette is the same as smoking a joint. The MJ is going to hinder your cognitive functions much more than a cigarette.
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Like I said, people who like alcohol will jump through hoops to justify it. If you are 20% drunk...you're not sober. Just because people take a few puffs off a joint doesn't mean they're completely wasted.
 
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bignewt said:
I wonder what percentage of people drink just for the taste? I also wonder how many tastes gets you to blow a .08?
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If a beer doesn't taste good, I am not drinking it. There are certainly people out there that will drink anything.

Just found this by googling. I knew it took an average man to drink several an hour without food to get near 0.08 (also depends on ABV). For those cases that I see 0.12+, people have had quite a bit, especially since the test is administered at least an hour or two after the last drink.

I can't drink more than 2-3 beers per hour and now at age 37, I can't drink many more than that in a night. Body just can't take it anymore.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgur...ved=0ahUKEwiG3eyTv-vVAhXIwFQKHccqAYYQ9QEILDAA
 
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bignewt said:
I can beat him I just know it.

Why is it such a strange question? Almost all people 18-34 drink to get drunk. When you get older you slow down and yes you have a beer or a glass of wine because you like the taste, of course a LOT of people when they get older just drink more to get hammered or are functioning alcoholics.

Now I smoke a little to watch a movie or clean the house or a hike or whatever. Guess what? I enjoy the taste too. Difference is I won't feel like hammered dog crap in the morning, in fact the effects will wear off in a few hours.
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Now that we are on this subject, do you mind answering my questions in the beer thread?:)
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Like I said, people who like alcohol will jump through hoops to justify it. If you are 20% drunk...you're not sober. Just because people take a few puffs off a joint doesn't mean they're completely wasted.
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I still don't understand your logic behind the "if alcohol is legal then MJ should be too" argument. What does one have to do with the other? Also, I really don't care one way or the other on the MJ issue. I don't use it nor do I plan too. The difference is the social acceptability of the substances. However, to claim one should be legal because the other is does not contain any convincing evidence. It's like saying "yeah, so!" It might sound like a solid argument but there is no substance to it.
 
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