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To be fair, it's not a competition. Any awards given based on judging is hardly a true competition. If it was a real competition we'd base it off sales and/or majority polling they do neither.
If I voted every movie with the Rock in it would win every award because, well, he makes every movie better. The Fast franchise, Jumanji, everything is better with the Rock in it lol.
 
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I'm a HUGE Rock fan, I don't think I'd call him conservative. He appears to me to be more Libertarian honestly. Which I guess could still be considered conservative, he's clearly not liberal though. I'm not sure which party he's affiliated with though. He's done a very good job of keeping himself out of political BS though, so that's one reason I think he's conservative and not liberal.
 
You seem awful liberal for an Avatar that says "You don't work, you don't eat." Fact is conservative elites for the most part (besides the President) don't have the platform that all these liberal Hollywood 1%'s do and most Hollywood exec's try to push there liberal agenda too which leads to there being WAY more liberal bullcrap force fed to people rather than conservative beliefs
You keep talking about 1%'s when there are very few in Hollywood that command At least $1 Million per movie. I was surprised that Jonah Hill only made $60K for Wolf of Wall Street. That is a good movie. Your belief versus reality does not line up. Stop listening to entertainment news where they have you angry at people that are more successful than you. Truth of the matter is that the people that are pitting you against Liberal Elites, make more than those Elites that they are telling you to hate.
 
He was a speaker at the 2000 Republican national convention but should be removed from an activist list. He's mostly reserved about his political views.
Why do you think that is, Charger? Chris Pratt is another that I believe is conservative. But you don't hear these guys spouting political agenda at awards ceremonies or even through their social media. Why? Because they'd be blackballed by Hollywood if they did so.
 
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I said supposed because I have no idea if you're right about their political opinions. Because unlike the liberal elites that we have talked about, I've never heard the guys you named say anything political. That's why I said supposed. But that is more to the point. There is no denying where the people at the Oscars stand politically is there? But did anyone see any of those guys you mentioned at the ceremony last night talking politics? Nope. What would have happened if they did promote their conservative view points at an award show or even had the audacity to say "we need to support the president?"
You never heard anything about Eastwood's Conversation with himself, referencing Obama?
Sorry, just surprised. It was kind of a big thing.
T'was interesting.
 
You keep talking about 1%'s when there are very few in Hollywood that command At least $1 Million per movie. I was surprised that Jonah Hill only made $60K for Wolf of Wall Street. That is a good movie. Your belief versus reality does not line up. Stop listening to entertainment news where they have you angry at people that are more successful than you. Truth of the matter is that the people that are pitting you against Liberal Elites, make more than those Elites that they are telling you to hate.
According to CNBC News from July of last year, the top one percent in America earn an average of $421,926. Hollywood actors by this definition are clearly in that 1%, aren't they? That number rises in Metropolitan areas such as New York and San Francisco to around 1 million. Nearly all of Hollywood would reside in that category.

The average American however, who I mentioned earlier, makes a median income of $50k/year. So yes, they are in the 1% and cannot relate to the Average American. But keep force feeding us your political bull crap liberal elites.
 
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You never heard anything about Eastwood's Conversation with himself, referencing Obama?
Sorry, just surprised. It was kind of a big thing.
T'was interesting.
Oh, I forgot about that weird speech he gave at the 2012 republican national convention...
 
Hahahahahahahaha hahahaha. Hold up let me breathe. Black Panther was 100% political if you can't see that you may want to check how you view things.
So you actually have a problem with Black Panther the comic book because they showed an advanced culture in Africa? But you loved Winter Soldier because the Nazis were advanced?
 
So you actually have a problem with Black Panther the comic book because they showed an advanced culture in Africa? But you loved Winter Soldier because the Nazis were advanced?
Wtf are you talking about? Wtf did I mention winter soldier? So being an idjit and sprouting complete nonsense
 
If it wasn't so one sided few people would care. But if one of them got up there and said we need to support the president, he would be booed off of the stage and then black balled by Hollywood and would never work again. Again, it's a bunch of rich people who think they're smarter than everyone else parading around in their wealth telling everyone else how to think and vote. Don't care what they think.

But again that goes back to agreeing with what is being said. If your view points line up with what is being said then you most likely wouldn’t have a problem with it. Their wealth also plays a part in it. I think a majority of people think that if you are well off then you shouldn’t be complaining period.

I think that’s what happened with a lot of the nfl kneeling protests. It was more about what they were protesting than the actual flag. If Kaps original stance was he’s going to kneel until our veterans are treated better...i think the outrage would’ve been a fraction of what it was
 
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According to CNBC News from July of last year, the top one percent in America earn an average of $421,926. Hollywood actors by this definition are clearly in that 1%, aren't they? That number rises in Metropolitan areas such as New York and San Francisco to around 1 million. Nearly all of Hollywood would reside in that category.

The average American however, who I mentioned earlier, makes a median income of $50k/year. So yes, they are in the 1% and cannot relate to the Average American. But keep force feeding us your political bull crap liberal elites.

To be fair Bass, you have no idea how many in Hollywood are making north of $400k in a year and neither do I. You're also making a broad statement when you say "Nearly all of Hollywood" when you're actually talking specifically about JUST the A-List actors. The bulk/majority of Hollywood is made up of grips, editors, producers, and working class folk that are making closer to the median income than the 1% you referenced.
 
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I understand your point of view here, Newt. The problem is, it's one sided. I mean, people have the right to express their point of view, we live in America. Problem is, these liberal elites don't seem to believe that. My frustration is that only one side expresses their political viewpoints through these avenues and if the other side did it, the outrage would be unbearable. Imagine what would happen if The Rock, one of the names mentioned a moment ago, got selected to host a major award show and he used that opportunity to lecture about supporting the president or a conservative political point like building the wall and limiting illegal immigration or what have you. What would happen? That's the point.

I wouldn't watch it if it was a political fest with both sides being given equal time an opportunity because I don't want to hear politics, I want to be entertained by my sports and movies and what have you. But it is made even more frustrating that the only voice that is allowed to be heard is from the left. And as much as people may try, there is no denying that this is the reality that we live in.

Its not that its the only viewpoint allowed, its just the vast majority and they have the bullhorn. Theater kids and music kids have always leaned left and always will. I see past it because I do enjoy film a great deal and enjoy the spectacle. I don't care what any of them believe, I just enjoy the art. If you can't get past the politics that's your prerogative. I guess that is one bonus of being a libertarian, when you know both "sides" are wrong it helps you not focus on the other side being a villain.
 
"Of course Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Rush Limbaugh are multi, multi millionaires but dammit Spike Lee told me minorities should have rights too and that just aint right brother!!!" - 65 year old diabetics triggered by an awards show
 
Why do you think that is, Charger? Chris Pratt is another that I believe is conservative. But you don't hear these guys spouting political agenda at awards ceremonies or even through their social media. Why? Because they'd be blackballed by Hollywood if they did so.
Why did you pick the only one that I said was reserved? Willis and Eastwood (just 2 examples) are extremely politically active.
You know i love ya bass but you're doing what both sides do- only seeing what the other side does.

Everyone said the Dixie Chicks should have known their audience and kept their mouths (probably should have) but if the Rock does, it's not right?
Do you think people's political leanings have anything to do two different takes on a similar subject?
Because as an outsider, it's obvious as hell.
 
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According to CNBC News from July of last year, the top one percent in America earn an average of $421,926. Hollywood actors by this definition are clearly in that 1%, aren't they? That number rises in Metropolitan areas such as New York and San Francisco to around 1 million. Nearly all of Hollywood would reside in that category.

The average American however, who I mentioned earlier, makes a median income of $50k/year. So yes, they are in the 1% and cannot relate to the Average American. But keep force feeding us your political bull crap liberal elites.
How many of your scary 1%'s were born into that situation or worked their way into that situation? Most people don't forget where they come from, and what it took to get there. Money only amplifies who you are. If you are a broke and uncaring prick, you will be a rich and uncaring prick.
Now I did a search on THE Google, and it says that the average wealth of the top 1% is $8.4 Million. That is different from the pay that you quoted, but pay does not equal wealth. Some people get paid very well, but they don't crack top 1%. My wife and I are 6 figures but in GA, the tope 1% earn almost 400K. We will never be considered the top 1%
 
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