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Bassmaster_Vol said:
My belief system is rigid because it is founded in the words of Scripture. We are not having a denominational discussion here. If someone wants to talk about Baptism or eschatology or something like that, I'm all for it. and I'll listen to anybody's different view points with a willingness to be proven wrong because, at the end of the day, though I disagree with my Presbyterian brothers, for example, on small points of doctrine, we are still brothers who believe in the same God, serve the same Christ, and preach the same gospel.

But these aren't the conversations that we are having here. We are having the conversation about whether or not Christ is Lord, and the only way to heaven, which is what He Himself taught and said that anyone who does not believe is condemned. That is a matter of eternal life or death that we are talking about in here, so of course I'm rigid. This isn't doctrinal disagreements, but the orthodoxy and heresy. There is no other way to be than rigid, or I wouldn't even be a Christian. That is just a strange premise to expect a Christian to not be rigid about the very thing that makes Him a Christian.

But further, it isn't my responsibility to reach people. My responsibility is to proclaim the truth. I trust the Holy Spirit with the rest. Like Jesus on the shore of the sea of Galilee, Peter threw his net into the water, but it was Christ who brought the fish. All I can do is throw the net out. I trust Him with the rest.
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But does the Scripture not to tell us to "Go!!" It is not our job to lead people to Christ?
 
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bignewt said:
Honest question, how do you imagine heaven? White robes and harps? Just wondering what you think.
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I'm more curious in what form we will be. Souls and spirits were made up ideas before we understood our brains moved our bodies, so what vehicle do we have now for an afterlife? Clearly there are certain wavelengths we cannot perceive or possibly even dimensions we cannot. Something like that?
 
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Devo182 said:
I'm more curious in what form we will be. Souls and spirits were made up ideas before we understood our brains moved our bodies, so what vehicle do we have now for an afterlife? Clearly there are certain wavelengths we cannot perceive or possibly even dimensions we cannot. Something like that?
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rejoined to the great cosmic soup.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Newt is not a real person. I should know. I met him.
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So here's a real question.

Why won't the NCAA/NBA adopt the same sort of eligibility rules as the NCAA/MLB have? It seems like a perfect harmony of allowing elite HS talent the opportunity to enter the league while also keeping the door & choice open to go to college.

I know the MLB has the farm system as well as a deeper draft, but still in principle allow HS kids the chance to enter the draft and chose to accept a contract (if drafted and/or given a contract) or attend college seems like a better solution to the "1 & done" situation they've created now.
 
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bignewt said:
I've read it I was just wondering what you thought, you have to have some vision of it, especially since you are on a first class ticket to there.
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Lol, no, I don't. Sometimes I think about seeing my family members there if that's what you mean. But I can't begin to imagine it. All I have is what the Bible describes. Anything else is make believe.
 
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bignewt said:
Jews distanced from the new testament because it condemned them to hell, hence it was written in Greek.
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*some Jews. Remember, the NT was written by Jews. The first Christians were Jewish, including the thousands saved on the day of Pentecost and the time after. The gospel would spread to the Gentiles, yes, but Christianity started with a group of Jews. All of the apostles were Jews, for example.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Lol, no, I don't. Sometimes I think about seeing my family members there if that's what you mean. But I can't begin to imagine it. All I have is what the Bible describes. Anything else is make believe.
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Just curious..you believe that the whole world was actually flooded and every animal in the world got in a boat? So how did a kangaroo get there from Australia?
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
I am a Christian. I have stepped back from organized religion. I have questions, but I believe in GOD. I pray everyday, sometimes I fast. But I still have questions.
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Organized religion is not bad. Just because some have abused the title "Christian" doesn't mean organized religion is bad. Christ called His apostles and commanded them to start churches. That's what they did, everywhere they went. Hebrews 10:25 even says that we are not to forsake assembling ourselves together. Galatians 6 says that the church is to come together and bear each other's burdens. We can't hope to live the Christian life alone. I encourage you to find a bible teaching church. It'll be good for you as a Christian.
 
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drvenner said:
But does the Scripture not to tell us to "Go!!" It is not our job to lead people to Christ?
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What do you think I'm trying to do here, dr? Yes, it tells us to go. But I can't convert anyone. That's what I mean. I have presented the gospel in this thread today on more than one occasion. That's all that I can do.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
*some Jews. Remember, the NT was written by Jews. The first Christians were Jewish, including the thousands saved on the day of Pentecost and the time after. The gospel would spread to the Gentiles, yes, but Christianity started with a group of Jews. All of the apostles were Jews, for example.
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Yeah I know, but they were then given a choice to either forget everything their families had known and believed in for generations and accept this new guy Jesus, or go to to hell. Of course I may be wrong but the Jewish faith doesn't really believe in heaven and hell.
 
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VflPT22 said:
Just curious..you believe that the whole world was actually flooded and every animal in the world got in a boat? So how did a kangaroo get there from Australia?
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Yes I believe in the global flood. No I don't believe that every animal in the world got on a boat. I believe that 2 of every kind of unclean animal and either 7 or 14 of every kind of clean animal got on a boat. Kind is different than species and many people have shown that it would have been easy to accomplish that. But I'm not an expert there. Read Answers in Genesis or Creation.com and they have all sorts of information on the ark and the flood.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yes I believe in the global flood. No I don't believe that every animal in the world got on a boat. I believe that 2 of every kind of unclean animal and either 7 or 14 of every kind of clean animal got on a boat. Kind is different than species and many people have shown that it would have been easy to accomplish that. But I'm not an expert there. Read Answers in Genesis or Creation.com and they have all sorts of information on the ark and the flood.
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what about Adam and Eve? How many kids did they have? Was incest a thing?
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yes I believe in the global flood. No I don't believe that every animal in the world got on a boat. I believe that 2 of every kind of unclean animal and either 7 or 14 of every kind of clean animal got on a boat. Kind is different than species and many people have shown that it would have been easy to accomplish that. But I'm not an expert there. Read Answers in Genesis or Creation.com and they have all sorts of information on the ark and the flood.
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Somehow my wife keeps getting this creationism magazine, Acts and Facts, that does all it can to debunk science every issue. Like the age of the earth, dinosaurs, the Ark, etc. It's fascinating to read.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Lol, no, I don't. Sometimes I think about seeing my family members there if that's what you mean. But I can't begin to imagine it. All I have is what the Bible describes. Anything else is make believe.
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yes I believe in the global flood. No I don't believe that every animal in the world got on a boat. I believe that 2 of every kind of unclean animal and either 7 or 14 of every kind of clean animal got on a boat. Kind is different than species and many people have shown that it would have been easy to accomplish that. But I'm not an expert there. Read Answers in Genesis or Creation.com and they have all sorts of information on the ark and the flood.
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bignewt said:
Yeah I know, but they were then given a choice to either forget everything their families had known and believed in for generations and accept this new guy Jesus, or go to to hell. Of course I may be wrong but the Jewish faith doesn't really believe in heaven and hell.
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That's partially true. Judaism of Christ's day had become extremely corrupted. They had begun to teach that salvation was on the basis of works in keeping not only the law but also oral and written tradition. The Old Testament didn't teach that. Paul demonstrates this in Romans 4 when he shows by quoting Genesis 15:6 that Abraham was justified by faith alone and not on the basis of works of the law. But yes, they had to abandon the Judaism of the day. But, Jesus is the promised Messiah in the Old Testament. The Jews were waiting for their Messiah, and He came, and He came in fulfillment of Isaiah 53, 61, and Psalm 22 and others, fulfilling all of the OT prophecies in Himself, even things He had no control over. He called them to receive Him as the Messiah and thus be saved.

Isn't it interesting that just a few years later, in AD 70, the Romans sacked Jerusalem and destroyed the temple and, in affect, they destroyed Judaism for all of their sacrificial system ended on that day when they lost the temple. Obviously that makes sense, because the sacrifices in the OT pointed to the one perfect sacrifice of Christ. When He came, there was no need for sacrifices any longer for the one sacrifice had finally come.

Romans 9-11 teaches us that there is still hope for the nation of Israel.
 
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