Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

[BucVol98]

I see that for exactly what it is..trying to buy votes now.

They've done it masterfully for a long time

 

[GoBigOrange86]

Trump got roughly 8% of the African American vote in 2016. Recent polls have showed his approval rating among African Americans to be closer to 20% recently. If he can get anywhere close to that 20% to vote for him in November, it will be a slaughter. This also doesn't include the other minority groups that have been able to prosper under this current administration.

The economy is sucking right now but people are aware of how it was rocking and rolling only a couple of months ago. Aggregate that with Biden's sexual assault cloud and now his inability to remember where he is or what he said or did and I think Trump runs away with it and brings a bunch of house seats back to the conservatives and maybe even expands the majority in the Senate.

I don't think the magnitude of the crash is going to hurt Trump as much as it normally would because it was brought on by a pandemic rather than a business cycle, but it won't help.

He could sneak through the electoral college while losing the popular vote again, though. I saw a national poll had Biden up 5 but a battleground-states only poll had Trump up 7, I think.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

They've done it masterfully for a long time

And with my/our money..

 

[BucVol98]

And with my/our money..

No doubt, they are masterful manipulators and it's no surprise considering they have probably 90% of the media kissing they're butt and spewing their bull at every turn, make no mistake, the government controls policy, but the media controls the people and shapes their minds

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

 

[SSVol]

I literally have said that since the beginning, so why didn't we quarantine the highest risk and let it run it's course?

It would have vastly lessened the davastating impacts of the economic suicide that is the lockdown on the 99+ percent of people that are in very little danger of serious effects from the virus.

And California is wanting to shutdown for another three months?? That is insane...I hope the sane people there riot against this stupidity. I mean who does the Cali govt think is going to feed their people? This stupid Kentucky butthole governor is already crying about a half billion in lost tax revenue, and yet wants to continue to drag this out longer and longer...

If only we had a place where we could quarantine the elderly. Maybe with varying levels of assistance, meals, and nursing. They'd be safe there!

 

[Glitch]

I don't know about massive but they will gain seats. The Dems know they're in trouble. It's why they're trying to push another stimulus package through so they can say "See we're trying to help by giving you money. The Republicans didn't give you this much the first time! We care more!"

"We went and borrowed a bunch of money that you will have to try and pay back with enormous amounts of interest. Of course we have borrowed so much that will be nearly impossible to ever pay it back. Ever. However, with that being said, here is some of that money now so you will vote for us. Yes, we did give money to dead people and non-citizens too, but we need their votes as much as we need yours."

 

[Dudleys87]

Those folks are getting hurt the most and I hope they start voicing their displeasure to their elected officials. City, State, and Federal politicians need to stop playing their games and start doing the right thing for the people they represent. People are already mad at the lunacy of how this is being handled and if it goes on much longer people will stop with simple protests. I am very worried that their will be groups that will resort to armed revolt if governments persist with these unconstitutional lockdown orders.

Absolute truth. While I understand people are getting sick they need to stop dealing the cards they want and start fair dealing. People need to work more than ever. These officials get a check no matter what and they best they can do is push an agenda no one wants to hear? I’m more than concerned about the suicide rate skyrocketing during and after this pandemic. The stimulus check helps im sure but it’s nowhere near steady enough to ride this thing out. A lot of people need change no rather than whenever the fat cats are ready.

It’s become so political it makes me sick. I’m talking about both sides and I’m republican.

 

[Dudleys87]

I literally have said that since the beginning, so why didn't we quarantine the highest risk and let it run it's course?

It would have vastly lessened the davastating impacts of the economic suicide that is the lockdown on the 99+ percent of people that are in very little danger of serious effects from the virus.

And California is wanting to shutdown for another three months?? That is insane...I hope the sane people there riot against this stupidity. I mean who does the Cali govt think is going to feed their people? This stupid Kentucky butthole governor is already crying about a half billion in lost tax revenue, and yet wants to continue to drag this out longer and longer...

She wants a shutdown.
She wants a huge stimulus package
She wants raises for the officials she represents
They want mail in voting
They’re all screwed up and butting heads when they should be coming together and working together to fix this but they never will.

 

[Dudleys87]

"We went and borrowed a bunch of money that you will have to try and pay back with enormous amounts of interest. Of course we have borrowed so much that will be nearly impossible to ever pay it back. Ever. However, with that being said, here is some of that money now so you will vote for us. Yes, we did give money to dead people and non-citizens too, but we need their votes as much as we need yours."

Just wait, if this next stimulus gets passed we’re all in for a ride that will never end. Imo, if it gets passed it’ll be one after another after another and certain things will fade away and be forgotten about.

 

[Theshag]

Whether Republicans win in November turns on whether their conspiracy house of cards holds up. Trump is in trouble if enough people decide that continuing to believe obvious lies isn't worth the risk to their family's lives.

The Curious Case of the People Who Want to "Reopen" America—But Not Wear Masks - The Bulwark

 

[Devo182]

Nobody cares about that though...evidently those hypothetical deaths don't pay...I mean..matter..as much as hypothetical Covid-19 deaths.

The societal devastation caused by the lockdown is an abstract concept to most people. The mainstream media will NEVER report on it though, keeping it an abstract concept to most people..because they are complicit in the fear mongering that caused it.

The research isn't about that, from what I can tell. It is about shifts in medical services or lack or access. Not economic issues or people not being able to gather or eat at a restaurant. Then again, the study was funded by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, so probably just part of a conspiracy

It is saying we need to still put resources and energy toward basic medical services. Still need to send resources and bolster supply chains of medical needs to low income countries. They are also speaking internationally and it is more of an issue abroad -

"Although mortality rates for COVID-19 appear to be low in children and in women of reproductive age, these groups might be disproportionately affected by the disruption of routine health services, particularly in low-income and middle-income countries (LMICs). With this in mind, we sought to quantify the potential indirect effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on maternal and child mortality."

"In past epidemics, health systems have struggled to maintain routine services and utilisation of services has decreased.

As WHO notes, “People, efforts, and medical supplies all shift to respond to the emergency. This often leads to the neglect of basic and regular essential health services. People with health problems unrelated to the epidemic find it harder to get access to health care services.”

"Already with COVID-19 we are seeing similar disruptions. The pandemic and the response to the pandemic are affecting both the provision and utilisation of reproductive, maternal, newborn, and child health (RMNCH) services.
Amid the pandemic, health workers, equipment, and facilities have been reassigned to address the influx of patients with COVID-19."

 

[VolGee4]

Football aside we needs everything open. I’ll be forever grateful that my family is fortunate enough to be able to have the means to make it but a lot of people don’t. I truly feel for the single parents out there that barely made ends meet working two jobs and their car just got towed away or they can’t make rent or buy food.

I'm going to sound ungrateful, and I don't want to. There are plenty of people who are having problems. But there are a lot who are making more in unemployment than going back to work. I would suggest that is partly why the numbers are high. The new legislation allowed for independent contractors to get unemployment, which I believe is the first time in history. Unless they extend it, this will end in July.

The interesting thing with the PPP is that small business owners have to bring back their employers and pay them by June 30 in order to get the loan forgiven, yet, some employees may not want to come back. I have read that it can be documented and the employee could be forced to pay unemployment back, but you know people will be able to get away with it.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Trump got roughly 8% of the African American vote in 2016. Recent polls have showed his approval rating among African Americans to be closer to 20% recently. If he can get anywhere close to that 20% to vote for him in November, it will be a slaughter. This also doesn't include the other minority groups that have been able to prosper under this current administration.

The economy is sucking right now but people are aware of how it was rocking and rolling only a couple of months ago. Aggregate that with Biden's sexual assault cloud and now his inability to remember where he is or what he said or did and I think Trump runs away with it and brings a bunch of house seats back to the conservatives and maybe even expands the majority in the Senate.

The Dems have a huge problem and it is not just Trump. Their own party is fractured.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Whether Republicans win in November turns on whether their conspiracy house of cards holds up. Trump is in trouble if enough people decide that continuing to believe obvious lies isn't worth the risk to their family's lives.

The Curious Case of the People Who Want to "Reopen" America—But Not Wear Masks - The Bulwark

I don't need to wear a mask. If I get the virus, I will either have no symptoms, or it will be a mild bug that will pass in a matter of days. I'll go and shake hands with people who have corona. It isn't going to hurt me. As posted above, I have more of a chance of dying from being struck by lightning than dying from the coronavirus. If you're worried about getting it, wear a mask to protect yourself. But you're not going to make me do it.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Whether Republicans win in November turns on whether their conspiracy house of cards holds up. Trump is in trouble if enough people decide that continuing to believe obvious lies isn't worth the risk to their family's lives.

The Curious Case of the People Who Want to "Reopen" America—But Not Wear Masks - The Bulwark

I remember the mainstream media also told us for 3 years that Trump and congressmen like Devin Nunes were pushing a Russia Collusion hoax perpetrated by the Russians.

Funny how that has turned out.

Excuse me if I don't take anything the mainstream media says seriously.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Anyone else think Ed Aschoff died of Covid? I know he had stage 4 cancer but I bet if that situation happened now they would classify it as covid.

 

[LynxVol]

Rucker is also a very good technical writer. Just a huge pain in the ass otherwise

Too bad his writing style sucks.

 

[golfballs]

Ohio, particularly southeast Ohio has excellent hunting.

Don't get me wrong, the state as a whole still sucks. But the hunting is nice.

Whitetail?

 

[Devo182]

I don't think the magnitude of the crash is going to hurt Trump as much as it normally would because it was brought on by a pandemic rather than a business cycle, but it won't help.

He could sneak through the electoral college while losing the popular vote again, though. I saw a national poll had Biden up 5 but a battleground-states only poll had Trump up 7, I think.

I agree. Most understand the economy was screwed regardless, because of the pandemic.

Your point about business cycles is true and yet sad. If we had a natural bust or downturn, many would blame the current president, for whatever reason. It's crazy how much people attribute a multitrillion dollar economy to 1 lone man.

 

[Devo182]

I don't need to wear a mask. If I get the virus, I will either have no symptoms, or it will be a mild bug that will pass in a matter of days. I'll go and shake hands with people who have corona. It isn't going to hurt me. As posted above, I have more of a chance of dying from being struck by lightning than dying from the coronavirus. If you're worried about getting it, wear a mask to protect yourself. But you're not going to make me do it.

I think the point was if you get it (and then spread it to other people unknowingly) then cases could go up. States are reopening based on the White House's guidelines, which relies on data. So it only causes a delayed reopening. It is counterproductive to what you and most of us want.

 

[Devo182]

Anyone else think Ed Aschoff died of Covid? I know he had stage 4 cancer but I bet if that situation happened now they would classify it as covid.

Poor guy. He was so young too. F cancer. Reminds me of Stuart Scott. Dude's ESPY speech was legendary and so dang sad. You knew he didn't have much more in him, but he was fighting like hell.

 

[Theshag]

I don't need to wear a mask. If I get the virus, I will either have no symptoms, or it will be a mild bug that will pass in a matter of days. I'll go and shake hands with people who have corona. It isn't going to hurt me. As posted above, I have more of a chance of dying from being struck by lightning than dying from the coronavirus. If you're worried about getting it, wear a mask to protect yourself. But you're not going to make me do it.

Its not about you, it's about elderly people who are out shopping, it's about people going out to help their families. Putting others at risk and bragging about it is the saddest kind of virtue signaling.

On a purely practical level, killing a bunch of old people to own the libs is going to slow reopening because hospitals are going to stay overwhelmed.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Its not about you, it's about elderly people who are out shopping, it's about people going out to help their families. Putting others at risk and bragging about it is the saddest kind of virtue signaling.

On a purely practical level, killing a bunch of old people to own the libs is going to slow reopening because hospitals are going to stay overwhelmed.

Those are the at risk people. They can wear a mask all they want to, and should.