Recruiting forum off topic thread (no politics, covid, or hot button issues)

[Orange_Crush]

I agree with you in your overall point but....automatic pistol?

Yep. And you can get ammo by the box...

 

[Orange_Crush]

Very very rare. I doubt any cop goes to work worried about being shot with a full auto pistol lol

I was going to say unless they work in Baltimore, Seattle or Portland. But that can't happen. They defunded the police.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

I blame the Hispanics.

 

[UT = Checkmate]

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That is f’ing nuts.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

And that’s terrible. Doesn’t mean a cop should physically drag someone out of their car for rolling up their window for 10 seconds

I never said it was ok...those guys were dumb and did a bad thing.

Read my posts...my issue is with the nation FOCUS on everytime a cop screws up and never on all ghe good things good cops do, and the fact they are all that stands between civilization and violent anarchy...it creates a dangerous narrative.

I once hated cops too...and then I stopped being a piece of dopehead alcoholic, stopped driving like a meth'd up lunatic...and amazingly I have never had an incident with cops in the last 26 years....funny how that works.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I am not trying to defend piss poor cops, but as a father with 2 and soon to be 3 kids driving with a bunch of lunatics on the road I wish there were more speed traps collecting revenue so these idiots would slow down and chill out with the reckless driving. I pray for a cop every time I see someone swerving back and forth across multiple lanes on the interstate endangering everyone on the road because their stupid butt thinks they are more important than everyone else. I think about how my inexperienced driving daughters might react if one of those tool bags swerves in front of them and how that might end. Our police are not perfect, but this reputation that has been yoked on them that they are just out there oppressing to the poor innocent masses pisses me off. They are trying to do a job and go home to there families, just like the rest of us. If they are told to run radar, that is what they do. If they are told to respond to an active shooter, that is what they do. They put on their uniform and walk out their door, never knowing what they day may bring. Will it be an uneventful day, or will they be placed in a situation where they have to choose to take someone's life to save their own or another's? I don't want that kind of responsibility. It sucks that there are tool bag cops too, but look real hard at the job they do and maybe have a little more respect for them. Either that, or when you are being mugged or your house has been broken in to, don't call the cops. Just let the criminals have your stuff and assault your family.

End rant.

THANK YOU!!!!!...

 

[volbeast33]

I never said it was ok...those guys were dumb and did a bad thing.

Read my posts...my issue is with the nation FOCUS on everytime a cop screws up and never on all ghe good things good cops do, and the fact they are all that stands between civilization and violent anarchy...it creates a dangerous narrative.

I once hated cops too...and then I stopped being a piece of dopehead alcoholic, stopped driving like a meth'd up lunatic...and amazingly I have never had an incident with cops in the last 26 years....funny how that works.

Been there…. when I was young… I was doing 90+ in a 45…. ran from the cops…. 3 cops pulled in behind me and drug me out of the car at gunpoint… It hasn’t happened since I stopped acting like an idiot.

 

[Weezer]

I don't think speeding should necessarily be a crime.

 

[Glitch]

I don't think speeding should necessarily be a crime.

I actually don't know if you are serious. I don't want lunatic's having zero accountability for driving at high speeds and possibly causing accidents that result in innocent people being injured or killed. I think if anything there should be stiffer penalties for going over a certain threshold of a speed limit.

 

[Weezer]

I actually don't know if you are serious. I don't want lunatic's having zero accountability for driving at high speeds and possibly causing accidents that result in innocent people being injured or killed. I think if anything there should be stiffer penalties for going over a certain threshold of a speed limit.

There's a difference between driving fast and driving reckless. Driving fast (speeding) shouldn't necessarily be a crime IMO. Driving reckless should be.

 

[knoxvol52]

There's a difference between driving fast and driving reckless. Driving fast (speeding) shouldn't necessarily be a crime IMO. Driving reckless should be.

25 mph over speed limit is reckless driving.

 

[Weezer]

25 mph over speed limit is reckless driving.

According to the law. That's not necessarily my definition of reckless driving. But the law gets the final decision, whether I agree or not.

 

[Glitch]

There's a difference between driving fast and driving reckless. Driving fast (speeding) shouldn't necessarily be a crime IMO. Driving reckless should be.

So if someone is doing 95 but staying in a single lane and not swerving in and out of multiple lanes should not be a crime? I think that in itself is reckless. What happens when that person loses control of their vehicle and veers uncontrollable into a mom and her kids on their way to school or a day at the zoo?

 

[Weezer]

So if someone is doing 95 but staying in a single lane and not swerving in and out of multiple lanes should not be a crime? I think that in itself is reckless. What happens when that person loses control of their vehicle and veers uncontrollable into a mom and her kids on their way to school or a day at the zoo?

Who says they're going to lose control? Going fast doesn't mean you're going to lose control. In fact, you can lose control at any speed.

 

[Glitch]

Who says they're going to lose control? Going fast doesn't mean you're going to lose control. In fact, you can lose control at any speed.

Who is more likely to lose control of a vehicle? Someone doing a reasonable speed that hits a bump or has to suddenly avoid an obstruction? Or someone driving way to fast that hits that same bump or has to avoid that same obstruction?

 

[VolGee4]

25 mph over speed limit is reckless driving.

Not pursuant to law in TN. In some states.

 

[Weezer]

Who is more likely to lose control of a vehicle? Someone doing a reasonable speed that hits a bump or has to suddenly avoid an obstruction? Or someone driving way to fast that hits that same bump or has to avoid that same obstruction?

It truly depends on the person driving. You're assuming speed limits one's ability to recover. That's not true of every individual. I'm of the opinion laws shouldn't be based on assumptions.

 

[vol9799]

Who is more likely to lose control of a vehicle? Someone doing a reasonable speed that hits a bump or has to suddenly avoid an obstruction? Or someone driving way to fast that hits that same bump or has to avoid that same obstruction?

Whether you're going 65 or 95, if someone loses it on a 2 lane, non-divided highway and swerves directly into another vehicle head-on; the outcome will be the same.

Someone driving 95 in a 55 on a four-lane divided highway with light traffic, good pavement, flat terrain and good sight lines is not being reckless unless they know something is wrong with them or their vehicle. Someone driving 25 in a 15 thru a busy (car & foot) school zone is being reckless.

Speed increases the likelihood of a catastrophic outcome if an event occurs, but may or may not increase the likelihood of an event even occurring. Recklessness, on the other hand, inherently increases the likelihood of an event occurring in the first place, regardless of the severity. I agree with Weezer that they aren't necessarily correlated, at least not tightly.

 

[Glitch]

It truly depends on the person driving. You're assuming speed limits one's ability to recover. That's not true of every individual. I'm of the opinion laws shouldn't be based on assumptions.

Having driven close to 130 mph on the autobahn in Germany, I can tell you that I felt very much out of control. Most people are not able to handle that and as busy as our interstate highways are in America, there is really no place for speeds like that. Now if a state wanted to raise the speed limits in very isolated areas with minimal traffic then that would be on them. However, most people live in densely populated areas with a lot of traffic. There is no way or need for a person to be doing 90mph in the Nashville or Knoxville metro areas.

 

[Glitch]

Whether you're going 65 or 95, if someone loses it on a 2 lane, non-divided highway and swerves directly into another vehicle head-on; the outcome will be the same.

Someone driving 95 in a 55 on a four-lane divided highway with light traffic, good pavement, flat terrain and good sight lines is not being reckless unless they know something is wrong with them or their vehicle. Someone driving 25 in a 15 thru a busy (car & foot) school zone is being reckless.

Speed increases the likelihood of a catastrophic outcome if an event occurs, but may or may not increase the likelihood of an event even occurring. Recklessness, on the other hand, inherently increases the likelihood of an event occurring in the first place, regardless of the severity. I agree with Weezer that they aren't necessarily correlated, at least not tightly.

The speed limit on most two lanes is going to be a max of 55, but yes the result would be the same. Who is more likely to be able to make a correction in a more timely manner? The idiot doing 65 or the idiot doing 95. The faster you go, the less time you ultimately have to make decisions and the more likely your mistake is going to end in either your fatality or someone elses.

 

[OrangeBlood4life]

It truly depends on the person driving. You're assuming speed limits one's ability to recover. That's not true of every individual. I'm of the opinion laws shouldn't be based on assumptions.

Should we let seal team 6 have target practice in a town square, I'd assume they are very good shots though.

Lol , just giving ya a hard time .

 

[Weezer]

Having driven close to 130 mph on the autobahn in Germany, I can tell you that I felt very much out of control. Most people are not able to handle that and as busy as our interstate highways are in America, there is really no place for speeds like that. Now if a state wanted to raise the speed limits in very isolated areas with minimal traffic then that would be on them. However, most people live in densely populated areas with a lot of traffic. There is no way or need for a person to be doing 90mph in the Nashville or Knoxville metro areas.

People shouldn't drive faster than they are able to handle. But what people can handle varies person from person. Weaving in and out of traffic, I agree that is reckless. That affects other drivers. But simply speeding does not. As for need, there are lots of things we don't "need", that shouldn't make them illegal. It's called choice.

 

[Weezer]

Should we let seal team 6 have target practice in a town square, I'd assume they are very good shots though.

Lol , just giving ya a hard time .

I'd be okay with it. I grew up a Navy brat. I'd probably enjoy it.

 

[jave36]

It truly depends on the person driving. You're assuming speed limits one's ability to recover. That's not true of every individual. I'm of the opinion laws shouldn't be based on assumptions.

They should be based on averages, and on average, someone going 30 mph faster than someone else will have a harder time recovering safely from some sort of potentially accident inducing stulimulus.

 

[Glitch]

People shouldn't drive faster than they are able to handle. But what people can handle varies person from person. Weaving in and out of traffic, I agree that is reckless. That affects other drivers. But simply speeding does not. As for need, there are lots of things we don't "need", that shouldn't make them illegal. It's called choice.

Who decides what each person can handle? Most folks that are mature or truly capable of actually making that decision are probably not doing much over 75 or 80 ever. The folks that are going to choose drive 90, 95, or faster are the exact folks that don't have the intellectual capability of making a mature decision on such things. Hence the need for speed limits. Given the option, some people would show zero restraint and when an innocent kid driving down the road gets creamed by some moron choosing to handle more than they are actually capable of will be the one that pays the price. I have too much precious cargo out driving the streets to agree with you here. We can continue to go back and forth or we can just agree to disagree.