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They should be based on averages, and on average, someone going 30 mph faster than someone else will have a harder time recovering safely from some sort of potentially accident inducing stulimulus.
That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I have a different opinion, and I am entitled to it.

But I'm afraid your argument is exactly what they will use when they decide to start grabbing guns.
 
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They should be based on averages, and on average, someone going 30 mph faster than someone else will have a harder time recovering safely from some sort of potentially accident inducing stulimulus.
I agree. But I'll also die on this hill= a driver going 10 under the limit causes more problems than someone going 10 over.
 
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I'm guessing there were people here that defended Tyreek Hill being a total DA 😂😂😂

Ima go 100 in my Z later, get pulled over, refuse to roll down my window down, say "don't knock on my window like dat, don't knock on my window like dat" over and over and roll my window all the way up and refuse to get out of the car when they ask.

It's gonna go great! And I'll be such a victim!
 
Having driven close to 130 mph on the autobahn in Germany, I can tell you that I felt very much out of control. Most people are not able to handle that and as busy as our interstate highways are in America, there is really no place for speeds like that. Now if a state wanted to raise the speed limits in very isolated areas with minimal traffic then that would be on them. However, most people live in densely populated areas with a lot of traffic. There is no way or need for a person to be doing 90mph in the Nashville or Knoxville metro areas.

I did the same on the autobahn. I felt in control but the majority of that was likely due to 1) they actually obey traffic laws and people don’t cruise in the L lane and 2) they actually invest in infrastructure so their roads are impeccable.

I would feel very unsafe driving at those speeds in our country in almost all situations.
 
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That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I have a different opinion, and I am entitled to it.

But I'm afraid your argument is exactly what they will use when they decide to start grabbing guns.
Your hyperbole is showing. We have a Constitutional RIGHT to keep and bear arms. We do not have a Constitutional right to recklessly endanger the lives of others with our actions, regardless of whether we think we are being reckless or not. I am no fan of government over reach and will call it out when I see it, but speed limits are not a hill I am willing to die on.
 
Who decides what each person can handle? Most folks that are mature or truly capable of actually making that decision are probably not doing much over 75 or 80 ever. The folks that are going to choose drive 90, 95, or faster are the exact folks that don't have the intellectual capability of making a mature decision on such things. Hence the need for speed limits. Given the option, some people would show zero restraint and when an innocent kid driving down the road gets creamed by some moron choosing to handle more than they are actually capable of will be the one that pays the price. I have too much precious cargo out driving the streets to agree with you here. We can continue to go back and forth or we can just agree to disagree.
So are you arguing speed limits should be based on age? Like drinking, or smoking, or voting?

We're probably at a point of agreeing to disagree.
 
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That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I have a different opinion, and I am entitled to it.

But I'm afraid your argument is exactly what they will use when they decide to start grabbing guns.

😂 not the “they’re coming for our guns” stuff. They’ve been coming for them for forever now. Still have mine.
 
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I did the same on the autobahn. I felt in control but the majority of that was likely due to 1) they actually obey traffic laws and people don’t cruise in the L lane and 2) they actually invest in infrastructure so their roads are impeccable.

I would feel very unsafe driving at those speeds in our country in almost all situations.
I was very young and having never driven that fast before it was nerve racking. I hit 130 and started feeling uncomfortable, so I backed it down to a nice steady 100. You are correct about people taking their roads and lane usage very seriously. DO NOT hang out in that left lane or you will get run over. Even doing 130 because someone in a BMW is going 150 and they will be on you in the blink of an eye.
 
Lol we had a Nascar driver here in NC decide to do 90 in a school zone. He's as qualified as they come, but I don't see parents agreeing to that. Neither did the state legislature who bumped school zone speeding infractions significantly. Which almost hurt me when I was doing 35 (normal speed limit) in a school zone well after the HS had started. Everyone speeds, most of us has been pulled over at some point.

Not every officer or speeder has acted as that exchange went down though. Nor should the typical stop look anything like that one. Not sure we need to change laws because several guys decided to have a bad day though.
 
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So are you arguing speed limits should be based on age? Like drinking, or smoking, or voting?

We're probably at a point of agreeing to disagree.
No, I am arguing that there is no definable quantifiable characteristic that would allow people to reasonably say they could handle going 95 or 100 mph. You said it should be based on what each person could handle and I am saying that how do you determine that? There is nothing that reasonably defines what I am capable of vs what you are capable of. So we set a speed limit and we all abide by it or we are subject to legal enforcement.
 
Your hyperbole is showing. We have a Constitutional RIGHT to keep and bear arms. We do not have a Constitutional right to recklessly endanger the lives of others with our actions, regardless of whether we think we are being reckless or not. I am no fan of government over reach and will call it out when I see it, but speed limits are not a hill I am willing to die on.
My hyperbole is always showing. It hangs low. I'm genetically gifted like that.

What about my rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Driving fast makes me happy. And again, you're assuming speed = recklessly endangering others. I do not agree with that assessment.
 
My hyperbole is always showing. It hangs low. I'm genetically gifted like that.

What about my rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Driving fast makes me happy. And again, you're assuming speed = recklessly endangering others. I do not agree with that assessment.
You can pursue happiness, but when your pursuit interferes with another person's life... Then what?
 
No, I am arguing that there is no definable quantifiable characteristic that would allow people to reasonably say they could handle going 95 or 100 mph. You said it should be based on what each person could handle and I am saying that how do you determine that? There is nothing that reasonably defines what I am capable of vs what you are capable of. So we set a speed limit and we all abide by it or we are subject to legal enforcement.
I never agreed to said speed limit. No one asked me how fast I can capably drive.

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You can pursue happiness, but when your pursuit interferes with another person's life... Then what?
How do you know it's interfering with someone's life?

You know what, you're interfering with my life. What's your address? I want to send the police.
 
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I was very young and having never driven that fast before it was nerve racking. I hit 130 and started feeling uncomfortable, so I backed it down to a nice steady 100. You are correct about people taking their roads and lane usage very seriously. DO NOT hang out in that left lane or you will get run over. Even doing 130 because someone in a BMW is going 150 and they will be on you in the blink of an eye.
Yep. Like dropping out of warp.

I was cruising at about 100 getting ready to pass a car. Checked my mirror...clear. Signaled and checked mirror again before changing lane, by this time AMG Mercedes had dropped out of warp. Passed me at least at 150. Shook my car. Different world.

Good roads. Good cars. Well trained drivers who obey the rules. They have less traffic deaths than us.
 
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Your hyperbole is showing. We have a Constitutional RIGHT to keep and bear arms. We do not have a Constitutional right to recklessly endanger the lives of others with our actions, regardless of whether we think we are being reckless or not. I am no fan of government over reach and will call it out when I see it, but speed limits are not a hill I am willing to die on.
Oh lord, forgive me for this. But even that Constitutional Right has been debated time and again. But yes, speed limits, seat belts, etc. are not a hill I will die on.
 
How do you know it's interfering with someone's life?

You know what, you're interfering with my life. What's your address? I want to send the police.
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC

Why don't you just pop on the fence over and we can settle this man to yeti?!
 
Oh lord, forgive me for this. But even that Constitutional Right has been debated time and again. But yes, speed limits, seat belts, etc. are not a hill I will die on.
I actually agree with McGill that seat belts should be a choice. I always wear mine, but I see it as a form of idiot control.
 
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Oh lord, forgive me for this. But even that Constitutional Right has been debated time and again. But yes, speed limits, seat belts, etc. are not a hill I will die on.
We won't get into the 2A, but some things that people want to claim a "Constitutional Right" to nowadays are quite laughable.
 
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC

Why don't you just pop on the fence over and we can settle this man to yeti?!
I agree that occupant should be arrested.

You want to meet at the Papermill Waffle House? If George Foreman can come out of retirement, I guess I can too.
 
I actually agree with McGill that seat belts should be a choice. I always wear mine, but I see it as a form of idiot control.
Seat belts are a completely different story. I wear mine, but only because my car yells at me if I don't. Very little chance my wearing or not wearing a seatbelt is going to have any negative impact on anyone besides myself should I be in an accident.
 
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