Recruiting forum off topic thread (no politics, covid, or hot button issues)

[85SugarVol]

Anyone who knows me knows I’m not the PC police. I would rather just beat the living crap out of any of you and move on.

Well, that wasn’t directed at you, but at least we can add Internet Tough Guy to your list of titles.

 

[85SugarVol]

Or maybe have a conversation about it and discuss it.

Lol….

I would rather just beat the living crap out of any of you and move on.

 

[mrMet]

No I do not. I do not use the words you did. I use moron. Search all you want. I’ve called several people a dumb azz. That’s what I’m calling you. Call me one. Fine. But you are dealing something that involves his child. He told you to go F yourself then you got offended. See the irony. I’ve got to get some sleep. Y’all can have it and keep on making the world a worse place.

I didn’t get offended at all. Nice try though

 

[knoxvol52]

I didn’t get offended at all. Nice try though

I really understand both sides of the discussion. Freedom of speech should never be muzzled but the way the World is now, some individuals are defensive when it comes to certain words or phrases.

I despise phrases such as "you're foolish" and many others.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I'd much rather someone speaks their mind, no matter how repulsive it might be. Reveals their character or lack thereof.

 

[knoxvol52]

Yes but speaking your mind in some situations come with consequences in life. Nobody knows how individuals will react about certain phrases or certain topics being discussed.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Anyone who knows me knows I’m not the PC police. I would rather just beat the living crap out of any of you and move on.

for real clark?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Grow some. My granddaughter has far more serious issues than whether somebody uses an offensive word.

you think that ability to use offensive/abusive language to demean the less fortunate makes one have a set of balls/proves their manliness? that seems completely illogical. further, it seems like enablement for bad behavior.

I truly wish your grand daughter, which ever or what ever ails her, only the best. Truly, meant no disrespect to you, and certainly hope she is healthy and happy.

 

[drvenner]

It’s not, but they are not the same thing AT ALL

Big swing and a miss on this one

 

[drvenner]

Ok, well I have already stated that’s now how I used it.

I have posted screenshots of the difference in definitions. There is a distinct difference between the two

I apologize for you interpreting it the wrong way based on your past

It is also a huge trigger word and really not at all socially accepted. Just apologize and move on instead of dying on this very stupid hill.

 

[drvenner]

I do. Learning delays and autism.

The point stands. The word only offends those who allow it.

I agree with a lot of what you say. Have to disagree with you on this one. I would not dwell on it but I would hurt for my child thinking people still use this word on every day conversation

 

[drvenner]

I’m using the NOUN not the verb. They’re not the same. The dictionary, that you yourself decided to call me out on, doesn’t even agree with you. Tough

Using the verb would be ok. For example, certain medications retard the growth of cancer cells.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

I agree with a lot of what you say. Have to disagree with you on this one. I would not dwell on it but I would hurt for my child thinking people still use this word on every day conversation

I respect this but still think there is a profound difference between directing the word at someone with a genuine condition versus using it in a clearly superfluous and exaggerated way to describe a well-compensated football player's performance.

 

[drvenner]

I respect this but still think there is a profound difference between directing the word at someone with a genuine condition versus using it in a clearly superfluous and exaggerated way to describe a well-compensated football player's performance.

I respect this way of having a reasonable discussion. There is a difference but using this particular word seems inappropriate to me

 

[SSVol]

you think that ability to use offensive/abusive language to demean the less fortunate makes one have a set of balls/proves their manliness? that seems completely illogical. further, it seems like enablement for bad behavior.

I truly wish your grand daughter, which ever or what ever ails her, only the best. Truly, meant no disrespect to you, and certainly hope she is healthy and happy.

That's the point. It isn't demeaning her. It has no relevance to her. At no point did calling Levis that name mean a thing to my granddaughter. *You* associated it with special needs or autism, not me.

But keep at it. Keep trying to eliminate offense. I'm sure it'll work eventually. Hopefully we don't get to the point we've so lost the capacity for managing conflict that we start killing each other over it. Like certain middle eastern cultures that were traditionally built on hospitality, but slid all the way into killing people who offend their book or their prophet or post offensive things on Facebook. Won't happen to us, right? Surely nobody in the west is being imprisoned for "hate speech"? Right?

You teach your kids to be nice. Maybe everyone else will do the same. I'll teach mine to not be offended. I like my chances better than yours.

BTW, immunity doesn't come from eliminating germs, it comes from learning to deal with them...becoming resistant to them. Limiting exposure increases sensitivity to germs. Bubble boys. Which sounds healthier?

 

[GoBigOrange86]

I respect this way of having a reasonable discussion. There is a difference but using this particular word seems inappropriate to me

I just err on the side of feeling it's important to parse intent. I worry we are allowing language to be too easily controlled as a means of conferring social punishment on people who really had no malicious intent.

If someone asked me not to use it, I would, out of respect, not use it, but I don't think there was any disparagement intended by its use in this context.

 

[Jackcrevol]

That's the point. It isn't demeaning her. It has no relevance to her. At no point did calling Levis that name mean a thing to my granddaughter. *You* associated it with special needs or autism, not me.

But keep at it. Keep trying to eliminate offense. I'm sure it'll work eventually. Hopefully we don't get to the point we've so lost the capacity for managing conflict that we start killing each other over it. Like certain middle eastern cultures that were traditionally built on hospitality, but slid all the way into killing people who offend their book or their prophet or post offensive things on Facebook. Won't happen to us, right? Surely nobody in the west is being imprisoned for "hate speech"? Right?

You teach your kids to be nice. Maybe everyone else will do the same. I'll teach mine to not be offended. I like my chances better than yours.

BTW, immunity doesn't come from eliminating germs, it comes from learning to deal with them...becoming resistant to them. Limiting exposure increases sensitivity to germs. Bubble boys. Which sounds healthier?

Again it just sounds like more justification for acting in a socially unacceptable way.

You're daggone right I will teach my children to be nice, and respectful of others. As a grown man and father who is present in his children's lives. It is the way.

But, I'll worry about that... You continue doing you.

 

[SSVol]

Again it just sounds like more justification for acting in a socially unacceptable way.

You're daggone right I will teach my children to be nice, and respectful of others. As a grown man and father who is present in his children's lives. It is the way.

But, I'll worry about that... You continue doing you.

I don't use the word. I don't think very highly of those who do. I raised my kids to say "yes, sir" and they are three of the nicest people I know, much nicer than me. I would have zero good to say to someone who called my grandaughter that word. But being nice won't protect them from offensive people. That's a choice they make. One I taught them to make.

And in spite of your insistence that nice matters, you hit me that passive aggressive "but you do you" bullchit. I don't need your permission to be what I am, nor do I need your affirmation.

 

[mrMet]

never mind

 

[SSVol]

We're saved! Already much closer to the kinder, gentler society! What could go wrong?

Omnipresent AI cameras will ensure good behavior, says Larry Ellison

 

[mrMet]

I just err on the side of feeling it's important to parse intent. I worry we are allowing language to be too easily controlled as a means of conferring social punishment on people who really had no malicious intent.

If someone asked me not to use it, I would, out of respect, not use it, but I don't think there was any disparagement intended by its use in this context.

 

[SSVol]

I agree with a lot of what you say. Have to disagree with you on this one. I would not dwell on it but I would hurt for my child thinking people still use this word on every day conversation

Don't misunderstand me. I don't use it. Wouldn't allow anyone in my circle to. I think use of words like that are lazy and weak minded. The problem is that so much is contextual, cultural, generational...you can never eliminate it all because perspectives are infinite.

By all means, teach kindness, model decency, choose not to use words that might wound, particularly the weak, but teach two things in addition to that 1) the majority of people don't intend to wound, 2) words only have the power you grant them. If we always assumed #1, and resorted to #2 when in doubt, this conversation would never have happened.

 

[utvolmaniac]

We're saved! Already much closer to the kinder, gentler society! What could go wrong?

Omnipresent AI cameras will ensure good behavior, says Larry Ellison

 

[peaygolf]

 

[MarcoVol]