'18 Recruiting Forum: Official West Virginia Pre-Game/Game Thread

[InVOLuntary]

Their first scoring drive went 5 plays in 85 yards with us playing zone. It was their shortest TD drive of the game I believe.

I don't count first drive. It takes a bit to settle in. I would have much preferred they keep everything in front of them and make a sound tackle, which was supposed to be much improved. I'd have to go back and look (and I sure as hell ain't doing that) but how much if that first drive was missed, bad tackles?

 

[I4Jay]

I didn’t expect much but the thing that killed me was how bad our pass rush is.
And the 3rd and 4, where we called a inside draw play was such a poor play call especially in the context of the game. JG had it going, we were moving the ball, just scored ... then that play call and subsequent punt...

 

[theutvolunteers]

I didn’t expect much but the thing that killed me was how bad our pass rush is.
And the 3rd and 4, where we called a inside draw play was such a poor play call especially in the context of the game. JG had it going, we were moving the ball, just scored ... then that play call and subsequent punt...

That was the worst call in the game.

 

[tomq_123]

QB like Grier can really make your D backs look really bad. He had some incredible throws and catches by his WR's. But don't disagree about them them looking lost and bad several times. They got schooled today.

Yep, reminded me of Mayfield and Mariotta.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I didn’t expect much but the thing that killed me was how bad our pass rush is.
And the 3rd and 4, where we called a inside draw play was such a poor play call especially in the context of the game. JG had it going, we were moving the ball, just scored ... then that play call and subsequent punt...

Yea, those plays had me scratching my head.

 

[AllVol11717]

That was the worst call in the game.

Yeah that was one of the few calls offensively that I didn’t think made sense with the flow of the game. Hadn’t done enough through the air to actually fool their D and free up space in the middle.

 

[HankHill]

I would rather make them earn it as opposed to giving up the big plays over the top expecting a shaky S to make the play.

To each their own but at least if you’re blitzing and being aggressive then you have a chance at making stuff happen. Just sitting back in zone or whatever. You don’t have a chance again a team and qb like that.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

I didn’t expect much but the thing that killed me was how bad our pass rush is.
And the 3rd and 4, where we called a inside draw play was such a poor play call especially in the context of the game. JG had it going, we were moving the ball, just scored ... then that play call and subsequent punt...

Was a puzzling play call. I think either we were trying to catch them off guard or we expected to at least gain some yardage and then go for it on 4th down. Once we didn’t get anything you had to punt.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I didn’t expect much but the thing that killed me was how bad our pass rush is.
And the 3rd and 4, where we called a inside draw play was such a poor play call especially in the context of the game. JG had it going, we were moving the ball, just scored ... then that play call and subsequent punt...

The offense seemed schizophrenic to me. We’d come out one drive totally in shotgun and another drive totally under center. One drive we were totally committed to the run, then in another drive totally committed to the pass.

Kongbo and Darrell Taylor being total non factors was a killer. Our only chance would have been to hit Grier early and often.

 

[InVOLuntary]

To each their own but at least if you’re blitzing and being aggressive then you have a chance at making stuff happen. Just sitting back in zone or whatever. You don’t have a chance again a team and qb like that.

That's not necessarily true. Many a balls are knocked loose and tipped closing on the ball causing interceptions and fumbles. Ask any receiver if they'd rather go against a zone or man to man.

 

[Kingston Vol]

To each their own but at least if you’re blitzing and being aggressive then you have a chance at making stuff happen. Just sitting back in zone or whatever. You don’t have a chance again a team and qb like that.

The fact is that as long as your defensive linemen/rushers aren’t getting a push strategy really doesn’t matter. Especially against a good QB.

 

[HankHill]

The offense seemed schizophrenic to me. We’d come out one drive totally in shotgun and another drive totally under center. One drive we were totally committed to the run, then in another drive totally committed to the pass.

Kongbo and Darrell Taylor being total non factors was a killer. Our only chance would have been to hit Grier early and often.

I think it’s abkut time to put Kongbo up there with Chris Donald.

 

[AllVol11717]

The fact is that as long as your defensive linemen/rushers aren’t getting a push strategy really doesn’t matter. Especially against a good QB.

Yeah they could have scored against any coverage we put out there today. Grier and those WRs feast on anyone who gives then time to throw.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I think it’s abkut time to put Kongbo up there with Chris Donald.

No doubt. I made a similar comment a couple weeks ago. Looks the part but just ain’t got it.

 

[HankHill]

That's not necessarily true. Many a balls are knocked loose and tipped closing on the ball causing interceptions and fumbles. Ask any receiver if they'd rather go against a zone or man to man.

Zone 100% of the time. It’s easy to find a soft spot in a zone like wvu was playing. Which is why JG completes like 85% of his passes. Do you know how hard it is to get off the line on a physical corner.

 

[HankHill]

The fact is that as long as your defensive linemen/rushers aren’t getting a push strategy really doesn’t matter. Especially against a good QB.

Yea it really doesn’t matter at all. No pressure means no defense.

 

[Kingston Vol]

All told, I feel worse than I thought I would.

Getting to a bowl game is going to be a real struggle. Not impossible but we’re a lot closer to Vandy/Kentucky/Missouri than Georgia/Florida/South Carolina. Which shouldn’t be a surprise given the last decade but for some reason we have to learn these lessons before we accept it.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Zone 100% of the time. It’s easy to find a soft spot in a zone like wvu was playing. Which is why JG completes like 85% of his passes. Do you know how hard it is to get off the line on a physical corner.

How many of those physical corners do we have? How many points did we put up on that zone with JG completing 85% of his passes. It's true it's easier to move the ball between the 20s against the zone but gets more difficult in the red zone.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Gonna be a bumpy start. 2-6 more than likely but can finish 4-0.

Negative Ghost Rider. We are not beating Mizzou if Lock plays. Ditto for USCe and Bentley.

 

[JacketVol]

All told, I feel worse than I thought I would.

Getting to a bowl game is going to be a real struggle. Not impossible but we’re a lot closer to Vandy/Kentucky/Missouri than Georgia/Florida/South Carolina. Which shouldn’t be a surprise given the last decade but for some reason we have to learn these lessons before we accept it.

Florida is not close to Georgia.

 

[chavisut]

Florida is not close to Georgia.

UGA in another tier.

 

[HankHill]

How many of those physical corners do we have? How many points did we put up on that zone with JG completing 85% of his passes. It's true it's easier to move the ball between the 20s against the zone but gets more difficult in the red zone.

Taylor did really well at holding down his side i thought. I know this loss sucks but i think it was a horrible matchup for us and i liked our scheme both on offense and defense. We obviously need more players but i saw a lot from our players and coaches that i liked.

 

[volfanCLT]

Negative Ghost Rider. We are not beating Mizzou if Lock plays. Ditto for USCe and Bentley.

SC isn’t included in this hypothetical 4-0 finish, ghost rider

 

[JacketVol]

How many of those physical corners do we have? How many points did we put up on that zone with JG completing 85% of his passes. It's true it's easier to move the ball between the 20s against the zone but gets more difficult in the red zone.

We scored 2 of 3 in the red zone. Could’ve kicked a FG to make it 3-3 but that wasn’t what needed to be done at that point. We should’ve scored 21 in three quarters once we got past the first quarter. Offense will get better. I thought it would suck and d would be good. Instead, it went opposite. Hopefully, the young guys will improve and keep pushing and we will improve the next two weeks in understanding the scheme change.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Florida is not close to Georgia.

Probably not but we’ll see.

That’s the clear top 3.