Recruiting Forum Talk XL

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He’s a real football coach. Would hire a great staff. Knows the south. Proven recruiter. Experience at a big time program.

Also, one thing I always think about is the fact that almost every coach starts having trouble sustaining success at the same place beyond 8-10 years.

Saban is the exception. Everyone else seems to have a window to work in and then it’s probably best to get out and reset.

Stoops was an exception too. I wonder why so many coaches can't sustain that level of success over an extended period of time, though?
 
I would think a record of 2-5 wouldn't be sustained success. But that's me.

What about 80-22 with six seasons in which he's won 10 or more games over an 8 year period? I wouldn't put Jimbo in my top 5 coaches in CFB but he'd definitely be in my top 10. I just think it would be hard to hire a guy with a record much better than that, realistically speaking.
 
Where did I post what I wanted? If i posted what I wanted Butch would have been gone ast year when he tried desperately to find another job.

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Not a fan of Jimbo. If he can't have sustained success at FL State, don't see him having it here. His stock is taking a bit of a dive at the present IMO.

He’s been in two playoffs. Won a natty. Had double digit wins every year but 2 (this year and had 9 his first year). That is sustained success.
 
1 bad year doesn’t negate 7 years of sustained success.

That’s like saying Butch had sustained success because he went 9-4 in 2015.

He won three conference titles in a row and hasn't in the last three and won't this year. All this with really ne significant conference foe, maybe two in some years. Also, take into account his players have historically gotten away with murder. I'm not impressed with Jimbo.
 
He won three conference titles in a row and hasn't in the last three and won't this year. All this with really ne significant conference foe, maybe two in some years. Also, take into account his players have historically gotten away with murder. I'm not impressed with Jimbo.

No significant conference foe... Clemson?
 
What about 80-22 with six seasons in which he's won 10 or more games over an 8 year period? I wouldn't put Jimbo in my top 5 coaches in CFB but he'd definitely be in my top 10. I just think it would be hard to hire a guy with a record much better than that, realistically speaking.

Not saying he's not done well in the past, I just think we've seen his best and his trajectory is downward.
 
He’s been in two playoffs. Won a natty. Had double digit wins every year but 2 (this year and had 9 his first year). That is sustained success.

Saban has changed everyone’s perception of sustained success. He’s essentially ruined football for most people.
 
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Please stop acting like te SEC is the same juggernaut conference as 10 years ago and every other conference is trash.

The east isn't as good as it was once was no doubt and the West as it was just a couple of years ago. But we're looking at time spans that include when the sec was significantly better. Three years ago the ACC had two teams.
 
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