Reece Davis wants Oregon

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UGa and either Ohio State or Michigan.

But likely not TCU. They have a better than 50% chance of losing in the next four weeks.

So more likely than not, two undefeated left. Which means two 1-loss teams will get in.

ESPN* knows this.

And ESPN knows that under those conditions, Tennessee is a lock.

So these talking points that Rece Davis and Kirk Herbstreit are following the past few days are NOT about keeping Tennessee out. They're about getting a PAC team in. Over, say, a second B10 team.

ESPN's water carriers (Davis & Herbstreit) can artificially inflate Oregon beyond anything reasonable (not just to the #5 spot, but ahead of the Vols in the #4 spot) in an effort to influence the CFP committee members. This is how the "national conversation" goes each week. Everyone postures, maybe even over-postures, hoping some Committee members notice and are swayed.

So, relax. We're fine.

Rece and Kirk are not trying to take away the Vols' chances at making the playoffs. They really just want mucho dinero from West Coast interest and viewership.

That's all it is.

Go Vols!


* I noted in another post that ESPN should not usually be viewed as a monolithic entity, that the network's many personalities are usually left free to pursue their own agendas. But there's one time when the network MAY act with a unified voice: when big $$$ are involved. And the circumstances seem to indicate that the network leaders gave Herbstreit and Davis marching orders to pump up Oregon.
 
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I think Oregon or Usc will get in with one loss. The other will be eliminated in pac 12 champ game. UT getting in will hinge on us winning out first and then tcu losing at least one game. I will be surprised if Oregon loses another game until the playoff. We need tcu to lose to Texas or baylor or be even better to lose both.
 
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We did the one thing that you can't do in a heavily hyped game--lay a big egg on the field.
 
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UGA would truck Oregon again. We would do better in a neutral site game. Not saying we would win it, but I honestly believe we would be much more competitive.
 
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I keep forgetting about Michigan. Assuming they lose to osu. Which looks better. 11-1 ut or 11-1 Michigan. Our sos is way better but I would worry about them getting the nod just because they are Michigan and getting a second big ten team in instead of a second sec team.
 
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AlWilsonGod said:
Reece Davis was on Feinbaum yesterday discussing CFP. He stated emphatically that Oregon should be in the mix as the Georgia/TN beat down was every bit the same beat down as GA 49-3 over Oregon?!?! That was on a neutral field. ESPN is dying to have west coast representation. Ridiculous stmt
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Does Reece Davis have a vote?

No?

Then f*** him and his opinions.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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I’d like to know what other teams would walk into Athens with a game built up like that and leave with a 14 point loss or less? Maybe Ohio state and that’s about it imho. Oregon? Yeah no we already seen that. Michigan? Yeah seems like we saw that pretty recently too. TCU? Don’t make me laugh
 
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As we all know by now, the landscape of college football remains very fluid as the season plays out. Teams like Tennessee benefitted early on because of a stronger early season schedule. But as we get into November, we find other teams schedules are more heavily weighted on the back end while ours has leveled out.

Tennessee’s problem is two fold.
1- We now have a late season loss. Historically speaking, late season losses do not bode well for the losing team especially when that loss takes them out of a conference championship.
2- Quality wins in November are important. A quality bounce back win against a respected team goes a long way in showing you are not the same team that lost that game and provides some level of intrigue. At present, Tennessee will not have a statement win against a quality opponent in the month of November. Meanwhile, other 1 loss teams still have important regular season games and conference championships.

Given the parity we have seen in college football this year; I think there is a high probability we will see 4 conference champions in the CFP.

#1 Georgia- SEC
#2 Ohio State/Michigan- B1G
#3 Oregon/USC/UCLA- PAC12
#4 TCU or North Carolina/Clemson- Big12 or ACC

I would like Tennessee’s chances a little better if one of our quality wins were in a bounce-back game after the loss. Unfortunately, we are left hoping wins over Missouri, S.Carolina and Vandy will be enough to overcome the momentum gained by teams competing and winning conference championships.

I just don’t see it but as we know wild things happen every year in the month of November. Only time will tell.
 
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dcibrando said:
my thoughts... if we were the best no loss team and we got beat by the now #1 team, why wouldn't we be the best 1 loss team?
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Need a 2 loss pac12 champ for us to jump a 1 loss pac 12 champ. We may could jump a 1 loss TCU, but I dunno.
 
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JBVolunteer said:
1- We now have a late season loss. Historically speaking, late season losses do not bode well for the losing team especially when that loss takes them out of a conference championship.
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UGA lost last year as late as a team can lose and got in. I believe Auburn and Alabama both got in one year and so one of them had a late loss. It is and should be who you lose to.
 
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Yanks24 said:
I think Oregon or Usc will get in with one loss. The other will be eliminated in pac 12 champ game. UT getting in will hinge on us winning out first and then tcu losing at least one game. I will be surprised if Oregon loses another game until the playoff. We need tcu to lose to Texas or baylor or be even better to lose both.
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Utah will beat them in two weeks. Bo Nix folds under pressure
 
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AlWilsonGod said:
Reece Davis was on Feinbaum yesterday discussing CFP. He stated emphatically that Oregon should be in the mix as the Georgia/TN beat down was every bit the same beat down as GA 49-3 over Oregon?!?! That was on a neutral field. ESPN is dying to have west coast representation. Ridiculous stmt
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Oregon will lose again so it’s irrelevant.
 
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AlWilsonGod said:
Reece Davis was on Feinbaum yesterday discussing CFP. He stated emphatically that Oregon should be in the mix as the Georgia/TN beat down was every bit the same beat down as GA 49-3 over Oregon?!?! That was on a neutral field. ESPN is dying to have west coast representation. Ridiculous stmt
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It’s a good thing the committee isn’t beholden to the media. So far they’ve done a pretty good job.
 
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The biggest sports network ( ESPN/Sportscenter ) is the biggest mouthpiece for Pac 12 schools all year long.
 
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DownNDirty said:
I wouldn't rule out Clemson jumping back into it if they run the table. I think they'd jump UT. JMO. And you are leaving out UNC. If they run the table they win the ACC with 1 loss. They would be in over UT as well IMO.

And you say Oregon - the Pac 12 could have UCLA or USC winning the conference championship with only one loss. So it's not just Oregon to worry about it's all 3 of them.

Tennessee's best path to make it is to obviously win out, UGA to run the table, OSU/Michigan to be a blowout, TCU to lose, and either the ACC winner or Pac 12 winner have 2 losses. They need these things to happen or they are going to get left out IMO.
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Notre Dame would have given the 3 best ACC teams a loss. The same Notre Dame team with home losses to Stanford and Marshall. Clemson, Syracuse and UNC. Clemson has never looked good this year. Their offense w/ DJ is bad. UNC doesn’t have a single top 25 win to date. Their OOC schedule is an absolute joke, which included a 4th quarter where they gave up 40 points to App State. UNC isn’t good, Clemson isn’t good, Syracuse isn’t good. The ACC sucks and everyone knows it. The PAC12 is a much better conference.
 
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Realistically Oregon could lose a second game.


Washington
My Huskies need to play a great game ti defeat the Ducks in Oregon, and DeBoer has made the Huskies a great team because the high scoring offense.
DeBoer is a great head coach so it won’t surprise me if the Huskies defeat a great Ducks team in a thrilling close game.

Utah
Utah is a great team that realistically could defeat them in a high scoring game.
Utah did defeat a great USC team in a high scoring thriller.



At Oregon State
That’s a challenging game that realistically they could lose because Oregon State does have talented RBs, and a strong defense that can keep the game close.

The PAC 12 Championship game
They’ll play a great team that could outscore them.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Need a 2 loss pac12 champ for us to jump a 1 loss pac 12 champ. We may could jump a 1 loss TCU, but I dunno.
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it depends on how much they factor in conference champions. The issue I have with that is TN could win a conference championship in almost any other conference than the SEC this year. In fact if we were in the west, we'd be playing in the championship game in the SEC
 
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JBVolunteer said:
Given the parity we have seen in college football this year; I think there is a high probability we will see 4 conference champions in the CFP.

#1 Georgia- SEC
#2 Ohio State/Michigan- B1G
#3 Oregon/USC/UCLA- PAC12
#4 TCU or North Carolina/Clemson- Big12 or ACC
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You had me up until that last part. Clemson was #4 in the CFP when they were undefeated. Losing to a 3-loss Notre Dame that had been beaten by Marshall (and will probably lose to USC too) isn't going to get in over TCU or a 1-loss Tennessee. Neither is a North Carolina team that also lost to Notre Dame and gave up 61 points to App State at home and struggled against Miami, Duke, and Virginia, beating each by just a field goal.

Don't overlook Utah as potential Pac12 spoiler either. They already have a win over USC and play Oregon in Eugene. Upsetting the ducks would put them in a 4-way tie atop the conference with Utah>Oregon & USC, UCLA>UTAH, Oregon>UCLA and USC and UCLA set to play. Plus USC has to play Notre Dame which could do us another favor.

And TCU still has Texas in Austin and Baylor in Waco.

Not guaranteed a bid and not in control of our own destiny anymore, but I like our chances as several things have to simultaneously go against us to be jumped and left out.
 
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Behr said:
Things are gone get interesting.

ESPN is already trying to spin a narrative about Tennessee and the College Football Playoff

"I can’t even wrap my head around how foolish this sounds.

Dinich doesn’t think a one-loss SEC team (Tennessee) getting into the playoff is realistic?

But a two-loss SEC team (LSU) getting in is realistic?

I can’t make it make sense.

Especially when Dinich also thinks a one-loss Clemson still has a chance with a weaker schedule. Or a one-loss Oregon if they win the Pac-12.

It’s clear that ESPN is just trying to get ahead of any controversy surrounding a one-loss Tennessee team.

Because ESPN acting like it’s not even possible isn’t just foolish, it’s insulting to college football fans.

By the way, it’s not just Dinich spinning this narrative.

Kirk Herbstreit is right there with her."

"We’ve known for a while that ESPN has an anti-Tennessee bias. They’re certainly not doing anything to disprove that notion."

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SOS from Kirk
 
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dcibrando said:
it depends on how much they factor in conference champions. The issue I have with that is TN could win a conference championship in almost any other conference than the SEC this year. In fact if we were in the west, we'd be playing in the championship game in the SEC
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1 loss conference champ will jump a 1 loss UT, that didn't make it to a conference championship
 
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