Reparations for Slavery (California)

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n_huffhines said:
I'm not trying to quibble over what event is an atrocity and what is not. I'm going higher concept and staying out of those weeds. The government should be held liable for atrocities. You can decide what the atrocities are, which is why I gave you the option to say slavery is not an atrocity.
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if the principle is the government should be held accountable for it's atrocities then my question is completely legit.

yes slavery was an atrocity - that's a no-brainer. the list is long beyond slavery.

what is principle without application?
 
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@LittleVol

I believe you're trolling and being sincere at the same time. Well done sir. Well done.

Nothing but respect for the candor & honesty by which you've gone about replying to your feelings about receiving reperations.

I sure am glad I can trace my genealogy back to the 1600's and 1700's on both sides of the family. I'm perfectly willing to back it up with DNA testing once Congress passes the appropriate bills & insures my genealogical autonomy.

I'm not paying sh!t. I might even get a cut of the magically created free money due to my recent ancestor's indentured servitude. Even if I don't get 40 acres or a unicorn, the 1 drop rule (admitedly 100% visually un ascertainable) will protect me from the Slave Trader tax bracket.

To play devils advocate and stir the pot. Don't you think AA's with a higher percentage of sub Saharan ancestry (weren't they enslaved more?) should get the highest payout? Shouldn't AA's who come from families that owned slaves be ineligible to receive reparations and actually be taxed in the Slave Trader bracket?

Although highly unlikely, if Congress were to actually pass an inequitable bill that leads to vehement balkanization, and we end up on opposite sides; I want you to know you have my utmost respect. You would be a fool to turn down free money.




On a semi related note, has anybody seen some of the astoundingly blond hair, blue eyed, graduating results of Australia's Indinginous Aborigines college programs? It's visual proof a government can force equality of outcome through segregated equity programs. /s
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm not trying to quibble over what event is an atrocity and what is not. I'm going higher concept and staying out of those weeds. The government should be held liable for atrocities. You can decide what the atrocities are, which is why I gave you the option to say slavery is not an atrocity.
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There’s nothing to quibble about. If they want something they need to file some civil suits against Nigeria, the Congo, Senegal, and Gambia. Hell they can even hit Europe before they even attempt to start crying for someone here to pay them something that they never experienced.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I bet you $22 that Biden/Harris tries to push this kind of BS through during their term
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I counter that bet and say that it will more than likely just be a committee formed, but no real substance behind it. I would not worry too much about reparations. The DNC can't spend money on Latinos, LGBTQs and reparations all together.
 
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n_huffhines said:
So you agree with them in principle. Cool.
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The easiest thing to do would be to offer land... and then you will see who is serious and who is just grandstanding. There is plenty of land the Federal govt (and some of these former Confederate state govts) have. See how fast people jump on free land that is not developed and would require actual work to develop. Instead of 40 acres and a mule, 40 acres and a tractor.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
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Indians are allowed to have casinos on their reservations.

The Cherokee were in parts of southern TN prior to the act of 1830.

If he hadn't of moved them we may have gambling due to the Indian Gambling act of 1988 since table gaming is ilegal in TN but the act states that states have minimal rates on reservations.

It was a horrible joke but the voices in my head laughed.....
 
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LittleVol said:
Those tricky Californians are up to their schemes again!! 😀
It looks like it may PASS here.
Of course it will serve as precedent for the rest of America to eventually follow.

Estimated $ 17 Trillion investment if it happens nationwide with every Black-American recieving 150k one time payment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✅🇺🇸
I'm Black...so yeah I support it obviously.

What say you Volnation? Is this beginning of a good thing??
What about Americans who claim Ancestry from Union Soldiers?? Don't they deserve something as well? Just a thought...
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Now I know why all instruments looking for intelligent life are pointed away from earth-especially California
 
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NEO said:
Indians are allowed to have casinos on their reservations.

The Cherokee were in parts of southern TN prior to the act of 1830.

If he hadn't of moved them we may have gambling due to the Indian Gambling act of 1988 since table gaming is ilegal in TN but the act states that states have minimal rates on reservations.

It was a horrible joke but the voices in my head laughed....


Ps. I a pretty sure you already know all this so now I am stumped on why you asked.



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#122
They would spend it in two days on shiny wheels for the Crown Vic, hookers and blow.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Who here is actually against reparations as a matter of principle? You'd have to believe either that

1) the government should not be held liable for atrocities

or

2) not think the institutionalization of slavery was an atrocity

I get it, the statute of limitations and all that...that's a legal and a feasibility thing, tho. Not a point of principle.
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The government is never held liable, it’s the current/future taxpayers that are held liable.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I counter that bet and say that it will more than likely just be a committee formed, but no real substance behind it. I would worry too much about reparations. The DNC can't spend money on Latinos, LGBTQs and reparations all together.
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Yeah they can, they now control the printing presses.
 
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#125
Where is the money coming from?

Do Native Americans get reparations for being displaced and killed?

Do Mexican Americans get reparations? Parts of California used to be Mexico. Mexicans have Native American ancestry.

What about blacks that aren’t residents of California? Would this pay blacks who move to California just to get the $150k?
 
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