Republicans Time to Grow Up and Move to the Center or Die.

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I had a long serious conversation about it this morning with a guy that I respect a load and who believes it to be a viable idea.

Not sure I want the pain involved, but I do find it intriguing.

Mind you, I'm not the partisan for real that I am on this board. I just don't care a lick about the freaking conservative social value driven issues. That would hurt.

Two things:

1.) Run as an Indy

2.) Get a lot of yard signs.
 
#53
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I agree in part........ Obama will run to the center.

Bush has done more for big government than any president in history.

is this really even the real OE? run to the center? i'd bet my bank account on it that he doesn't. if he does i'll be the first to admit that i was wrong
 
#54
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I agree in part........ Obama will run to the center.

Bush has done more for big government than any president in history.


Anybody who thinks Obama will move to the center is either dumb or willfully ignorant.
 
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Anybody who thinks Obama will move to the center is either dumb or willfully ignorant.
the media, almost across the board, believes he's coming to the center.

It's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

Bill Kristol, who is a bright fellow, said he thought Obama would be centrist to some degree because he doesn't want to repeat the Carter disaster or lose his majority as Clinton did very quickly.

I'd like to think he's right, but I believe there is no prayer that he is.
 
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Clinton really had no choice. BO has a few hundred people blocking for him now

Again, even if the craziness Obama talks about happens, which it will not, this is Clinton third term.

As TRUT put it, conservatives just punted.
 
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I had a long serious conversation about it this morning with a guy that I respect a load and who believes it to be a viable idea.

Not sure I want the pain involved, but I do find it intriguing.

Mind you, I'm not the partisan for real that I am on this board. I just don't care a lick about the freaking conservative social value driven issues. That would hurt.

If you stick to what you would do best, drive home the idea of keeping yourself and government in general accountable to the people.........keeping government out of the way in everyones daily life, you might find you could gain some traction.

While my social views would be a little more conservative than yours, they are not a deal breaker, I think there are many who would find themselves in the same boat as i am.
 
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the media, almost across the board, believes he's coming to the center.

It's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

Bill Kristol, who is a bright fellow, said he thought Obama would be centrist to some degree because he doesn't want to repeat the Carter disaster or lose his majority as Clinton did very quickly.

I'd like to think he's right, but I believe there is no prayer that he is.

You know just as well as I do that he wants to keep his power and ensure a positive legacy......

You know he will run to the center and go to SF and talk crazy to keep the loonies happy.
 
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If you stick to what you would do best, drive home the idea of keeping yourself and government in general accountable to the people.........keeping government out of the way in everyones daily life, you might find you could gain some traction.

While my social views would be a little more conservative than yours, they are not a deal breaker, I think there are many who would find themselves in the same boat as i am.

Run as an Indy.......... BPV will be in the governor's seat before long.
 
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If he wants to be successful he will and stay there while Franks, Pelosi and Reid hang Themselves.

Which is exactly what will happen. Look at his relationships, they got them to where he wanted to go and apparently he left them to the wayside.
 
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Which is exactly what will happen. Look at his relationships, they got them to where he wanted to go and apparently he left them to the wayside.

I am more optimistic than most people on this board, since I know he has already told Reid to go F himself. I have a feeling he doesn't give a damn about these three.

I could be wrong though?
 
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the fiscal conservative, strong military, limited government movement is not at a crossroads or remotely dead. Whether the Republican party gets that is a different animal, but someone is going to get that right.

Hell, I'm considering moving back to TN to run for the House on exactly that platform. Then I'm taking it to the Senate.

BPV for House 2010.

Didn't say it would not work in Tennessee that is why I live here. On a national Level, it would be a little harder to push that agenda.

You got 4 and 6 years to make up your mind on the Senate Seat.

Bob will seek a 2nd term and Lamar will probably Retire from the Senate. They are doing great jobs.

Governor is a possibility but Frist will be hard to beat.

Considering that most of our house seat are Republican your choices are getting slimmer unless you want to run in Memphis for the House or wait until the Democrats in retire.

State Rep is a possibility but we had great gains this year in the State Legislature. Again Limited.

There may be some community Organization leader positions open now that BHO has been elected. Not the best but a start. This state is pretty locked up Republican. No Democratic Whipping boys here until they retire. You might try Alabama.
 
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I am more optimistic than most people on this board, since I know he has already told Reid to go F himself. I have a feeling he doesn't give a damn about these three.

I could be wrong though?

He used Rev Wright to get into the Chicago political machine.

Obama has questions, along with every other hack who has been president.

Guess what, we have survived every last one of them!
 
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Didn't say it would not work in Tennessee that is why I live here. On a national Level, it would be a little harder to push that agenda.

You got 4 and 6 years to make up your mind on the Senate Seat.

Bob will seek a 2nd term and Lamar will probably Retire from the Senate. They are doing great jobs.

Governor is a possibility but Frist will be hard to beat.

Considering that most of our house seat are Republican your choices are getting slimmer unless you want to run in Memphis for the House or wait until the Democrats in retire.

State Rep is a possibility but we had great gains this year in the State Legislature. Again Limited.

There may be some community Organization leader positions open now that BHO has been elected. Not the best but a start. This state is pretty locked up Republican. No Democratic Whipping boys here until they retire. You might try Alabama.
you're not accounting for the inevitable pendulum swing back to conservatism, which will open hordes of those currently dem seats to conservatives.
 
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If he wants to be successful he will and stay there while Franks, Pelosi and Reid hang Themselves.

He already had and I agree he will stay there. He has not choice but to tell Franks, Pelosi and Reid to F themselves.
 
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He used Rev Wright to get into the Chicago political machine.

Obama has questions, along with every other hack who has been president.

Guess what, we have survived every last one of them!

My thoughts exactly, if we aren't strong enough to survive what most on this board perceive to be Armageddon for 4 years than we shouldn't exist.
 
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you're not accounting for the inevitable pendulum swing back to conservatism, which will open hordes of those currently dem seats to conservatives.

In the state of Tennessee, it has gone nowhere to move to the center or the left. It does not have to and that is why I am here.

Again as far as the Dem seats are concerned they are in Democratic areas that will be Democrat for the most part with or with BHO. They have good Democrats in them with the exception of one; however he is meeting the needs of his constituency
 
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My thoughts exactly, if we aren't strong enough to survive what most on this board perceive to be Armageddon for 4 years than we shouldn't exist.

If we are even thinking about Armageddon then we are whacks. The Sky is not falling. This is the type of crap and panic on the part of the Rep Party that I hate. All it does is stir Sh>>. That is Chicken Little Syndrome, scare the public to death with biblical prophecy.
 
#73
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If we are even thinking about Armageddon then we are whacks. The Sky is not falling. This is the type of crap and panic on the part of the Rep Party that I hate. All it does is stir Sh>>. That is Chicken Little Syndrome, scare the public to death with biblical prophecy.

listen to the people on this board, Obama hasn't even stepped into office yet and already he is the worst president ever.
 
#74
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listen to the people on this board, Obama hasn't even stepped into office yet and already he is the worst president ever.

This is the part of the Republican Party I am not very proud to be a part of. We need to identify the problem and fix it.
 

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