Republicans Time to Grow Up and Move to the Center or Die.

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VolunteerHillbilly said:
It's just that when you are worried about losing your job, home and family other issues have a way of suddenly getting placed on the back burner.
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Are you telling me that Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs wasn't just some weak Psych 101 blather? Dammit, I should have paid attention.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
A lot died last night in the Republican Party and it is time to cut the losses and move on. We need to do it in a way that we address the issues and not the scare tactics of old. If we do not the Republican Party will slowly go into extinction.
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Conservatism is not the problem . . . It's the RINO's that pretend to be conservative while trying to play populist to placate the middle that fail. They can't have it both ways.
 
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I have not really moticed a direct post on the subject but it looks like Tennessee was once again among the few bright spots on the map for Republicans. It appears both houses of the General Assembly will be Republican controlled for the first time since Reconstruction.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I have not really moticed a direct post on the subject but it looks like Tennessee was once again among the few bright spots on the map for Republicans. It appears both houses of the General Assembly will be Republican controlled for the first time since Reconstruction.
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Not to mention McCain won all but 5 counties in Tennessee.
 
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joevol320 said:
that is rediculous. that's why we lost is that we didn't run as a conservative. if you're going make that claim, then we should all be one party, the dem party.

it's amazing that the republicans are the ones that have to move center. no one tells that to the dems, the dems can be as far left as they want, but the right has to move center. i say that it's BULL S###. we must must run as conservatives, make a bold distinction between libs and conservatives and we'll win.

mccain is an example of being a moderate. and so are the republicans that were voted in this past election.
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Duh? JM is a moderate.

Looking at this board/forum, We just got our azz beat by the following:

A Marxist
A Racist
A Muslim
A Taxer
A Wealth Spreader
A Baby Killer
One that endorses Terrorism
One that frequents with Terrorist
A Terrorist
A Liberal
A Socialist
A Democrat
A Health Care Reformer
Satan
One that will bring on Armageddon
Inexperienced
Weak on foreign Policy, the economy
One that will erase the Jewish Population.
A Hypocrite
Stupid and ignorant
Islamic

Just to name a few slurs by the members of this board. So you want to move more right and live in exile.
So Be it. This kind of Criticism that goes nowhere. Reality is that he was elected despite this list. The Right wing list. The jello did not stick to the wall and in the future it will not either.

We need to deal with the real issues and not this crap.
 
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joevol320 said:
it's amazing that the republicans are the ones that have to move center. no one tells that to the dems, the dems can be as far left as they want, but the right has to move center. i say that it's BULL S###. we must must run as conservatives, make a bold distinction between libs and conservatives and we'll win.

mccain is an example of being a moderate. and so are the republicans that were voted in this past election.
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:clap:
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
McCain moved to the center and got smoked out...
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Nope. McCain sold out to the Far Right (particularly with the Palin pick; he could have picked Tom Ridge and won, or stuck to his original principles as a moderate Republican and won), and got smoked. One of the beautiful things about this country is that it always eventually gravitates toward the center.
 
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DowntownVol said:
Nope. McCain sold out to the Far Right (particularly with the Palin pick; he could have picked Tom Ridge and won, or stuck to his original principles as a moderate Republican and won), and got smoked. One of the beautiful things about this country is that it always eventually gravitates toward the center.
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When can we expect this to happen? I don't see an Obama presidency as "gravitating towards the center", he could basically go back on his promises made during his campaign and surprise me though.
 
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KB5252 said:
When can we expect this to happen? I don't see an Obama presidency as "gravitating towards the center", he could basically go back on his promises made during his campaign and surprise me though.
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He has been gravitating toward the center since before summer. His picks for economic advisors were evidence of this.
 
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#114
If the Republicans in the Whitehouse and on the Hill were acting like conservatives in their policies and legislation we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

People (liberals, moderates and conservatives) all want to be able to trust Republicans with their money when the rubber meets the road.
 
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DowntownVol said:
particularly with the Palin pick; he could have picked Tom Ridge and won, or stuck to his original principles as a moderate Republican and won
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I disagree 1,000%. Picking another RINO like Ridge wasn't going to draw flies.
 
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truefan said:
He has been gravitating toward the center since before summer. His picks for economic advisors were evidence of this.
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That is called doing what you have to in order to win the election. What he does from here out could be another story, I could be wrong, time will tell.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
I do believe he should have picked Kay Bailey Hutchinson out of Texas. She may have been a difference maker.
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George W. Bush - Texas
Kay Bailey Hutchinson - Texas

that's all the dems would have needed to tie the two together. Why do you think McCain went to far out of the Washington DC sphere of influence for his VP choice? He knew he was going to get tied to Bush and the last thing he wanted was for his VP to be saddled with that.
 
#119
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So whoever he picked was going to lose the election for him. I would have rathered died on the vine with other picks than Palin. The tie-in to Bush was going to happen no matter who the Running Mate was so if a woman was needed on the ticket why not Hutchinson.
 
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truefan said:
He has been gravitating toward the center since before summer. His picks for economic advisors were evidence of this.
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and he gravitated right back to the far left with his choice of Rahm "the Hemorrhoid" Emmanuel to be his Chief of Staff.

also, for those of you who think Obama doesn't support a reintroduction of the "Fairness" Doctrine:

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama-appoints-radical-media-activist.html

Henry Rivera, a longtime radical leftist, lawyer and former FCC commissioner, is expected to lead the push to dismantle commercial talk radio that is favored by a number of Democratic Party senators. Rivera will play a pivotal role in preventing critics from having a public voice during Obama's tenure in office.

Rivera, who resigned from the FCC nearly a quarter-century ago during the Reagan years, believes in a doctrine of "communications policy as a civil rights issue".

His exit during the Reagan Administration paved the way for the Fairness Doctrine's repeal when the late president appointed Patricia Diaz Dennis in 1986 to fill out the rest of Rivera's term. Had this not occurred, talk radio as we know it today would not exist.
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MontereyVol said:
This is all cyclical, in four to eight years it will swing strongly back to the Republicans. My hope is that the new party will be better and go back to their core principles and get religion out of politics.
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Politicians say one thing but will make a deal to get things done. It is the religious issues that give you an idea of who you are voting for, so they do have a place in the process. I think we'll see a change in two years if Nobama starts making changes just to make changes and it doesn't really change anything for the better.
 
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religion has always been a part of politics here. our currency doesn't say "In God We Trust" for no reason
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
religion has always been a part of politics here. our currency doesn't say "In God We Trust" for no reason
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Hell, the reason we murdered the native people in order to take their country was so we could have religious freedom. The damn religious oppression in the old world was just awful.
 
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MG1968 said:
and he gravitated right back to the far left with his choice of Rahm "the Hemorrhoid" Emmanuel to be his Chief of Staff.

also, for those of you who think Obama doesn't support a reintroduction of the "Fairness" Doctrine:

The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney: Obama Appoints Radical Media Activist To Oversee FCC, Talk Radio Shutdown
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I'm interested in seeing how this plays out. My understanding from actually reading the "Fairness" Doctrine doesn't lead me to believe that people like Rush will be eliminated. However, if that happens despite the fact that I think the man is just a "shock" pundit (same for Franken) it would be a serious free speech travesty.
 
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