Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

[hog88]

It was in a few states. I believe it was Vermont and Maryland. Maryland is kinda hard to regionally assign but Vermont would qualify as the North

Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky

 

[0nelilreb]

And you know this person went to public school how? But lets saddle her with your "ideology" for convenience.

My ideology is “ let’s teach kids facts in school instead of our own ideology “ history is a great place to start . You are correct I made the assumption she went to public school, if she didn’t her parents should pull their funds for the private school she’s being taught at . Here’s an even better idea .. before you tear down history , use your damn smart phone and google the person first ( before you check your messages on social media ) .

 

[lukeneyland]

Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky

I didn't include Kentucky or Missouri because they both had strong Confederate leanings. But it is true they never left and weren't covered in the emancipation

 

[Mick]

My ideology is “ let’s teach kids facts in school instead of our own ideology “ history is a great place to start . You are correct I made the assumption she went to public school, if she didn’t her parents should pull their funds for the private school she’s being taught at . Here’s an even better idea .. before you tear down history , use your damn smart phone and google the person first ( before you check your messages on social media ) .

Did you go to public school?

 

[0nelilreb]

It was in a few states. I believe it was Vermont and Maryland. Maryland is kinda hard to regionally assign but Vermont would qualify as the North

Mason-Dixon Line

 

[0nelilreb]

Did you go to public school?

I did . I was taught by Democrat teachers . Every single one from Jr high up . Couldn’t tell you about my elementary teachers , too young to care .

 

[Mick]

I did . I was taught by Democrat teachers . Every single one from Jr high up . Couldn’t tell you about my elementary teachers , too young to care .

 

[0nelilreb]

I’m not catching that sign . I’ve seen the sh!t you liberals sling , there’s no telling what the sign has on it . Still has nothing to do with the lack of knowledge that girl has .

 

[FLVOL_79]

Man..they are just so stupid.

 

[FLVOL_79]

By this logic, slavery would have been legal in the North.

They had slaves in the north....

 

[lukeneyland]

You really can't boil the entirety of the Civil War in the South down to slavery. You also can't argue that it wasn't a massive factor. But the overwhelming majority of the boys who did the fighting and dying didn't own slaves. Slavery alone isn't enough to make someone march to their almost certain death at Gettysburg or Shiloh. Some of my ancestors were slavers some weren't, in the end it didn't matter they all got butchered the same. I think they deserve to be remembered so I will continue to do so.

 

[MontyPython]

It was in a few states. I believe it was Vermont and Maryland. Maryland is kinda hard to regionally assign but Vermont would qualify as the North

Swing and a miss...

"Slavery was banned outright upon the founding of Vermont in July 1777, and by a further provision in its Constitution, existing male slaves become free at the age of 21 and females at the age of 18. "

 

[lukeneyland]

Swing and a miss...

"Slavery was banned outright upon the founding of Vermont in July 1777, and by a further provision in its Constitution, existing male slaves become free at the age of 21 and females at the age of 18. "

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My bad. It was actually Delaware. Can't help but to get those small yank states confused. Point still stands

 

[MontyPython]

My bad. It was actually Delaware. Can't help but to get those small yank states confused. Point still stands

Delaware... the armpit of the east coast.

 

[lukeneyland]

Delaware... the armpit of the east coast.

I do enjoy your banter. It's fun to have people to argue with.

 

[evillawyer]

Is the South rising again?

 

[lukeneyland]

Is the South rising again?

Nope. Just wallowing in part of the mess our ancestors made.

 

[k-town_king]

Union Troops were at Ft. Sumter. That's not invading. Confederate troops fired on them.

United States troops

 

[MontyPython]

I do enjoy your banter. It's fun to have people to argue with.

Agreed. Most people here are great... and fellow Vol fans, regardless of our differences in politics. That we can discuss this in relative civility is what makes America and Tennessee great!

 

[k-town_king]

You really can't boil the entirety of the Civil War in the South down to slavery. You also can't argue that it wasn't a massive factor. But the overwhelming majority of the boys who did the fighting and dying didn't own slaves. Slavery alone isn't enough to make someone march to their almost certain death at Gettysburg or Shiloh. Some of my ancestors were slavers some weren't, in the end it didn't matter they all got butchered the same. I think they deserve to be remembered so I will continue to do so.

Yes you can. The people involved literally stated that the only cause for the war was slavery.

So were the Confederate traitors lying about their own reasons?

It is history. No way to argue against what is a historical fact.

 

[carlos86]

 

[1972 Grad]

Yes you can. The people involved literally stated that the only cause for the war was slavery.

So were the Confederate traitors lying about their own reasons?

It is history. No way to argue against what is a historical fact.

If that makes you feel better about your plight .......,

 

[FLVOL_79]

There is some poetic irony in here about modern anti Americans complaining about long dead treasonous Americans.

 

[lukeneyland]

Yes you can. The people involved literally stated that the only cause for the war was slavery.

So were the Confederate traitors lying about their own reasons?

It is history. No way to argue against what is a historical fact.

Some of the people involved. You know I imagine most of those that wrote those documents and initiated the conflict never fired a rifle in anger or saw a friend blown apart by artillery. It's like almost any other 18 to 19th century conflict. The motivations of the combatants and those who manipulate them are often very different

 

[happy-go_vol]

It's why I engaged with Carlos. I find it odd to be replacing slave owning confederates with slave owning genocidists(is that a word?) From the north.

It spoke of the partisanship we are so deeply in bed with today. Dont use the name of their bad guys, use the name of our bad guys.

We aren't as deeply as divided as the small minority wants us to believe.