Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

[NashVol11]

Just gonna leave this here

 

[NashVol11]

Anyone think the pen comes out and we get an EO stating that military bases are federal properties and as such, only the federal government can rename them?

Definitely not, but would just make it worse for him if he did. Delaying the inevitable

 

[Smokey X]

I want the Jefferson Memorial and Washington Monument down as well.

don't stop there....the white house and capital building were built with slave labor

 

[AirVol]

Honoring the Confederacy is like honoring the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. How bout we build a statue of bin Laden and all his lieutenants as well? You know, for the history.

Give it time. The Dims honor terrorist.

 

[AirVol]

don't stop there....the white house and capital building were built with slave labor

These dumb ass vandals don’t know that. They probably think it was built last year.

 

[midnight orange]

Is there anything to support that? One thing I found was before he was president.

Check out the Hampton Roads Comference in 1865. According to Alexander Stephens, Lincoln was willing to compromise on Emancipation in return for an immediate return of the the Confederacy to the Union avoiding an unconditional surrender.

 

[NashVol11]

Were people in this thread also complaining about “preserving history” when the Saddam statue came down? Or is that different?

Must be different

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Please stop reading Shelby Foote. He’s not a civil war historian. Ken Burns’ Civil War is a great documentary, but it’s done more to perpetuate the Lost Cause myth anything else. Foote doesn’t tell you that J.E.B. Stuart’s Calvary were MIA on The days leading up to Gettysburg because he was out trying get his name in the papers and chasing tail.

I'm well aware of that. I probably own over 200 books on the war. Including about 6 volumes in the The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies published in the late 1880's.

 

[NashVol11]

I'm well aware of that. I probably own over 200 books on the war. Including about 6 volumes in the The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies published in the late 1880's.

I obviously disagree with your position on Confederate statues, but I think this is pretty cool

 

[KB5252]

And the fact that the majority of the people that were killed and mutilated for the south were far too poor to even consider owning a slave. Slavery was undeniably a motivation for the wealthy but they aren't representative of the entire Confederacy

Yes, but the wealthy did lead it, and those that fought were aware of the rhetoric of the Confederacy regarding slavery.

 

[Bigun]

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Not even a good joke.

 

[LouderVol]

Wrong, it was just a coincidence that the states that left the Union were slave states.

Not all the slave states....

 

[LouderVol]

The north invaded the south? What history books you reading? Take them and throw them in the trash.
Slavery was the main reason, like it or not.

South carolina formally requested the removal of federal troops from their state before they seceded. The feds refused. The feds were then seen as forcibly holding territory in South Carolina.

 

[Velo Vol]

I'm well aware of that. I probably own over 200 books on the war.

Wow.

 

[GordonC]

I'm well aware of that. I probably own over 200 books on the war. Including about 6 volumes in the The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies published in the late 1880's.

Ah, the hours I spent in that series back in the day....Where did you get those?

Somewhere around here, probably in storage, I have an old OED with the little drawer below the box with a magnifying glass so you can actually read the print.

 

[Velo Vol]

Ouch.

 

[0nelilreb]

Ouch.

I missed the part where Osama was a U.S. citizen . Brothers fought brothers , but they were still both Americans . I don’t think Bin Laden ever filled out his Visa papers .

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[Bigun]

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Ah, the hours I spent in that series back in the day....Where did you get those?

Somewhere around here, probably in storage, I have an old OED with the little drawer below the box with a magnifying glass so you can actually read the print.

I got them on the Hwy127 yard sale 8 or 10 years ago. They were in a box with a few other books and I think I paid like $50 or $75 for the box.

 

[LouderVol]

No they didn't. They claimed to be citizens of another country. One formed from lands stolen from America.

So then they weren't traitors?

 

[MontyPython]

 

[LouderVol]

Is there anything to support that? One thing I found was before he was president.

The fact that emancipation didnt apply to northern held territories?
That he supported deporting them until 1863.