Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

[CagleMtnVol]

The man who beat the Confederacy and was President of the United States.

 

[BreatheUT]

You ever wondered who parented these hoodlums?

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

The man who beat the Confederacy and was President of the United States.

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Ohhhhhh. Who could have seen this coming?

 

[MontyPython]

The state is nearly 40% black people. Be careful about insulting MS too much... Might have to bust out the ole R card on you.

Anyway, I don't understand how some of you are incapable of realizing what the argument is and generalizing it at all. Literally at the beginning of this thread we were saying "Okay but they are gonna end up going for all the statues", and two weeks later, here we are.

Do you really want a country where policy is dictated by private companies and organizations issuing threats to local, state, and federal governments to get whatever they want?

I didn't realize there were so many anti-democracy, pro-lobbyist people on here.

I think these times are, in fact, a reflection of the will of the majority. Democracy is working. Most people recognize that a rebel flag is a symbol of the Confederacy and what it stood for.

I get the argument that "this is a reflection of history, and we can't change it". True. In that vein, statues and rebel flags and the like belong in a museum.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I think these times are, in fact, a reflection of the will of the majority. Democracy is working. Most people recognize that a rebel flag is a symbol of the Confederacy and what it stood for.

I get the argument that "this is a reflection of history, and we can't change it". True. In that vein, statues and rebel flags and the like belong in a museum.

Where modern liberalism and democrats will be soon hopefully.

 

[FLVOL_79]

These morons in these videos tearing down history they don't even understand..this is what happens when you are raised without a father.

 

[1972 Grad]

These morons in these videos tearing down history they don't even understand..this is what happens when you are raised without a father.

……………...and a decent educational system.

 

[MontyPython]

These morons in these videos tearing down history they don't even understand..this is what happens when you are raised without a father.

Ouch. The racism. Waxing poetic from a lifetime perspective of white privilege goes over like a fart in church, dude.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Ouch. The racism. Waxing poetic from a lifetime perspective of white privilege goes over like a fart in church, dude.

Racism? What are you talking about. Most people who lean left come from broken homes. Hence the perpetual victim status. Sociology 101, you should brush up on it.


Funny you immediately thought I was just talking about black people. There is a word for that..its on the tip of my tongue...

I know ZERO democrats who grew up with both biological parents. Zero. And I unfortunately know enough of them that it isn't some coincidence. Do they exist? Sure, but its more the exception rather than the rule.

 

[Boston Vol]

Ouch. The racism. Waxing poetic from a lifetime perspective of white privilege goes over like a fart in church, dude.

White privilege, drink!

 

[KB5252]

I think these times are, in fact, a reflection of the will of the majority. Democracy is working. Most people recognize that a rebel flag is a symbol of the Confederacy and what it stood for.

I get the argument that "this is a reflection of history, and we can't change it". True. In that vein, statues and rebel flags and the like belong in a museum.

This is going far beyond Confederate memorials and statues. It has gone beyond the will of the people at this point and has become a a very vocal and restrictive minority of Americans attempting to dictate to the rest.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I think these times are, in fact, a reflection of the will of the majority. Democracy is working. Most people recognize that a rebel flag is a symbol of the Confederacy and what it stood for.

I get the argument that "this is a reflection of history, and we can't change it". True. In that vein, statues and rebel flags and the like belong in a museum.

The deal is that if one side does not honor the process, then they cannot expect the other side to do the same. The social contract is breaking down. The people who are in the streets have nothing to lose for the most part so I understand why they are there. People sitting on their hands are probably more worried about some combination of coronavirus and economic recession. At some point, the latter group will either feel safe enough to come out of their shells and be heard or they'll wind up in the nothing to lose group. There is always a reaction to every action.

 

[Roustabout]

This is going far beyond Confederate memorials and statues. It has gone beyond the will of the people at this point and has become a a very vocal and restrictive minority of Americans attempting to dictate to the rest.

Cancel culture.The message is that violence and rioting will get you what you want.

 

[0nelilreb]

Cancel culture.The message is that violence and rioting will get you what you want.

Yes for a little while until the majority says that’s enough , we are tired of the bs .

 

[KB5252]

Yes for a little while until the majority says that’s enough , we are tired of the bs .

Actually I believe you are wrong here. Because the pillar p popular narrative here is that if you disagree with our push back in any way against their destruction your are racist and people are too scared to call BS and push back. It worries me that when people do wake up and say enough it will be too late

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

This is going far beyond Confederate memorials and statues. It has gone beyond the will of the people at this point and has become a a very vocal and restrictive minority of Americans attempting to dictate to the rest.

A lot of us were never naive enough to believe it would end with confederate statues/flags. As a matter of fact that’s the whole point. They never intended it to end and never will.

 

[0nelilreb]

Actually I believe you are wrong here. Because the pillar p popular narrative here is that if you disagree with our push back in any way against their destruction your are racist and people are too scared to call BS and push back. It worries me that when people do wake up and say enough it will be too late

Trump is the extreme example of pushback from the left going to far . There will always be a rubber band effect we just never know what it will be .

 

[0nelilreb]

A lot of us were never naive enough to believe it would end with confederate statues/flags. As a matter of fact that’s the whole point. They never intended it to end and never will.

Same with the 2a , that’s why I don’t give an inch . The whole “reasonable and rational “ ploy only works if your actions don’t betray you and contradict it .

 

[Matt2496]

None of these extreme actions (tearing down statutes, renaming brands, etc.) are actually ending racism. None of the cancel culture tactics are actually ending racism.

What's the point of all of this? Subjugation of society. Trying to force people to accept that America, at its very core, is deeply founded upon racist principles and precepts. Trying to force people to accept that abolishing the police is a good thing. If you don't believe that, "you're part of the problem", "you're racist", and "you're a white supremacist".

 

[MontyPython]

This is going far beyond Confederate memorials and statues. It has gone beyond the will of the people at this point and has become a a very vocal and restrictive minority of Americans attempting to dictate to the rest.

Nuts.

 

[0nelilreb]

PEOPLE are Nuts.

Fyp

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Hundreds of Radicals Tear Down Statue of Ulysses Grant, Man Instrumental In Ending Slavery, Fighting KKK

 

[0nelilreb]

Hundreds of Radicals Tear Down Statue of Ulysses Grant, Man Instrumental In Ending Slavery, Fighting KKK

Mob mentality and lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing , especially with young people . Everyone of them has a smart phone , so they have no excuse for the lack of historical knowledge .

 

[Weezer]

At some point, enough has to be enough and people need to start being punished for their lawless actions. I honestly don't care if statues are removed, but going about it through mob rule is not the way. Are we just going to throw the law out the window every time an angry mob forms?

 

[FLVOL_79]

Odd how democrats attack inanimate objects that won't fight back, but haven't tackled the name of their own political party...