Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

[Franklin Pierce]

You mean to tell me that other bad human beings possibly won’t be placed on pedestals anymore?? The horror!!!!!

You mean like MLK and Lenin and Marx?

 

[NashVol11]

You mean like MLK and Lenin and Marx?

Yes, if your crusade against MLK spreads nationwide and his statues get taken down, I won’t lose any sleep over it. Good luck though

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Yes, if your crusade against MLK spreads nationwide and his statues get taken down, I won’t lose any sleep over it. Good luck though

How about Nat Turner too?

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Where is there a statue of MLK? Atlanta? I've never seen one. Lot's of roads with his name.

 

[evillawyer]

SIAP

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Where is there a statue of MLK? Atlanta? I've never seen one. Lot's of roads with his name.

The MLK National Historic Site, which comprises 35 acres, is in Atlanta.

 

[hog88]

I think these times are, in fact, a reflection of the will of the majority. Democracy is working. Most people recognize that a rebel flag is a symbol of the Confederacy and what it stood for.

I get the argument that "this is a reflection of history, and we can't change it". True. In that vein, statues and rebel flags and the like belong in a museum.

You are correct, this is democracy in action, that’s why democracy is an oppressive and an ineffective form of government.

 

[0nelilreb]

You are correct, this is democracy in action, that’s why democracy is an oppressive and an ineffective form of government.

It’s a shame that history isn’t a major course requirement .

 

[Franklin Pierce]

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Nat Turner Statue In Richmond, Virginia

List Of People Murdered By Nat Turner And His Followers:

Joseph Travers, his wife and three CHILDREN

Mrs Elizabeth Turner

Hartwell Prebles

Sarah Newsome

Mrs P. Reese and SON.

Trajan Doyle

Henry Bryant, his WIFE, CHILD, and his wife's mother.

Mrs Catherine Whitehead, her son, Richard, Four DAUGHTERS, and one GRANDCHILD

Salathiel Francis

Nathaniel Francis, and two CHILDREN

John T. Barrow

George Vaughn

Mrs Levi Waller and TEN CHILDREN

William Williams, his wife and two BOYS.

Mrs Caswell Worrell and Child

Mrs Rebecca Vaughn

Ann Eliza Vaughn, and her SON, Arthur

Mrs John K. Williams and CHILD

Mrs Jacob Williams and CHILD

Edwin Drury

 

[CagleMtnVol]

I’m telling you..... they’ll be wanting to burn down The Hermitage next

I was seriously concerned the other day when they said they were protesting in Nashville about the Ryman.

 

[Rickyvol77]

You mean to tell me that other bad human beings possibly won’t be placed on pedestals anymore?? The horror!!!!!

Thomas Jefferson was a better man than you could ever hope to be

 

[KB5252]

Suggestions?

Don'tburnme square?

 

[NEO]

Someone explain how removing a statue is “erasing history”. Do words in the plethora books and documentaries magically change because a statue was taken down?

Swear this was the prelude in the jacket cover of Fahrenheit 451.

 

[NashVol11]

Thomas Jefferson was a better man than you could ever hope to be

As long as my legacy doesn’t include enslaving 600 people, I’m good with it

 

[FLVOL_79]

Where is there a statue of MLK? Atlanta? I've never seen one. Lot's of roads with his name.

If there is one in Atlanta, I'd recommend not going to that neighborhood.

 

[FLVOL_79]

As long as my legacy doesn’t include enslaving 600 people, I’m good with it

No worries bro, your legacy won't even be a footnote. You're in the clear.

 

[NashVol11]

No worries bro, your legacy won't even be a footnote. You're in the clear.

That's true for everyone here, so kind of a pointless tangent when discussing removing statues of Confederates/slaveowners

 

[FLVOL_79]

That's true for everyone here, so kind of a pointless tangent when discussing removing statues of Confederates/slaveowners

Wrong.

 

[KB5252]

What are peoples thoughts on Nathan Bedford Forest?

 

[midnight orange]

What are peoples thoughts on Nathan Bedford Forest?

He was born dirt poor and become wealthy through the slave trade and real estate. He joined the confederacy by personally arming his men. He was the only confederate general to rise from the rank of private. He was effective due to his use of asymmetrical warfare techniques. He might be the most formidable person in the history of American warfare. All evidence points to his reluctance to stop the Ft. Pillow massacre and that he made attempts to deny his role in it. He became the 1st Grand Wizard of the KKK, a title given due his monicker “Wizard of the Saddle”. He left the KKK and seems to have made some attempt at reconciliation with African- Americans at the end of his life, whether genuine or not. He was definitely a person you didn’t want to cross.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

After Protestors Topple Two Statues in North Carolina, the Governor Orders Others Removed for ‘Public Safety’

On Saturday, North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper called for Confederate monuments to be removed from the State Capitol following two statues being pulled down by protestors Friday evening.

As reported by Reuters, Saturday morning, construction workers took down monuments including one in tribute to women of the Confederacy. Another honored Confederate soldier Henry Wyatt.

After Protestors Topple Two Statues in North Carolina, the Governor Orders Others Removed for 'Public Safety'

 

[NashVol11]

After Protestors Topple Two Statues in North Carolina, the Governor Orders Others Removed for ‘Public Safety’

On Saturday, North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper called for Confederate monuments to be removed from the State Capitol following two statues being pulled down by protestors Friday evening.

As reported by Reuters, Saturday morning, construction workers took down monuments including one in tribute to women of the Confederacy. Another honored Confederate soldier Henry Wyatt.

After Protestors Topple Two Statues in North Carolina, the Governor Orders Others Removed for 'Public Safety'

Love to see it

 

[KB5252]

He was born dirt poor and become wealthy through the slave trade and real estate. He joined the confederacy by personally arming his men. He was the only confederate general to rise from the rank of private. He was effective due to his use of asymmetrical warfare techniques. He might be the most formidable person in the history of American warfare. All evidence points to his reluctance to stop the Ft. Pillow massacre and that he made attempts to deny his role in it. He became the 1st Grand Wizard of the KKK, a title given due his monicker “Wizard of the Saddle”. He left the KKK and seems to have made some attempt at reconciliation with African- Americans at the end of his life, whether genuine or not. He was definitely a person you didn’t want to cross.

I think the later part of his life is not known well enough. To say he made some attempt reconciliation is understating it. People don't know enough about this man especially his later years unfortunately

 

[midnight orange]

I think the later part of his life is not known well enough. To say he made some attempt reconciliation is understating it. People don't know enough about this man especially his later years unfortunately

That’s fair but I’ve had a hard time finding books about him. The problem is twofold imo.
1) authors that are sympathetic and excuse some reprehensible behavior ie Ft. Pillow
2) authors that have an axe to grind and excuse any positive attribute as pernicious.

I’m not saying it’s not true but due to his penchant for being involved in every cause that subjugated oppression upon blacks, I would need extraordinary evidence that he redeemed himself in regards to equality for blacks.