RIP Phil Valentine

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bamawriter said:
Even worse, he replied to a comment on this post: "I won't be getting [the vaccine.] Why? Because I have full immunity."

That he believed that is tragic.
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I think the whole "he wasn't anti-vax he was just for being informed" is typical spin. It's getting into the BS of not specifically saying something when he clearly was pushing the narrative of misinformation and doubt. Don't piss on my back and tell me it's raining.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So in reading on viral vector it sounds a tad more concerning. Not bad just concerning to understand. It is indeed DNA based instead of messenger RNA. There are all kinds of assurances that the DNA cannot survive after it delivers the protein production programming but I think I finally understand where the “it modifies your DNA!” fear talk was coming from. Again thanks for the link.
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Sure, no problem. It may sound counterintuitive, but added foreign DNA is not typically incorporated into the human genome. Most viruses are based on RNA and use enzymes called reverse transcriptases to hijack their way into human genetic machinery to get our cells to produce new virus. I can add the anecdotal result that I (J&J) had no side effects while my wife (Moderna) did. Of course, that’s just one data point.
 
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Volprofch05 said:
Sure, no problem. It may sound counterintuitive, but added foreign DNA is not typically incorporated into the human genome. Most viruses are based on RNA and use enzymes called reverse transcriptases to hijack their way into human genetic machinery to get our cells to produce new virus. I can add the anecdotal result that I (J&J) had no side effects while my wife (Moderna) did. Of course, that’s just one data point.
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Got it thanks. But I had wondered where this whole DNA modification narrative came from and now I think I finally understand.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I think the whole "he wasn't anti-vax he was just for being informed" is typical spin. It's getting into the BS of not specifically saying something when he clearly was pushing the narrative of misinformation and doubt. Don't piss on my back and tell me it's raining.
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I really don't know because I haven't listened to him in years. But I've heard or read plenty of commentators say things like "I'm not telling you not to get the vaccine. But here are all the reasons I'm not getting it." You can say that's not an anti-vax, but if you're only presenting reasons for refusing then it certainly isn't an unbiased argument.
 
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bamawriter said:
I really don't know because I haven't listened to him in years. But I've heard or read plenty of commentators say things like "I'm not telling you not to get the vaccine. But here are all the reasons I'm not getting it." You can say that's not an anti-vax, but if you're only presenting reasons for refusing then it certainly isn't an unbiased argument.
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There is no amount of pointing at commentary or social media dumbassery that absolves stupid people from not educating themselves and not going to their personal medical professional and instead vacating their decision making responsibility to those sources.
 
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BreatheUT said:
He did but he never told anyone not to get it. He decided not to get it because he felt he was healthy and had no underlying issues. I think he got the delta variant possibly from his son.

As someone else said, this virus that has come out of China is wrecking havoc on the world. There should be senate hearings on this and China should pay dearly in some way. We don't hear a dammnn thing about an investigation anymore.
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Regardless of what they discover, I don't believe you will hear the information if it is decided that China created it in a lab, I firmly believe they did because it seems that this virus is not following the laws of nature on the way it acts and instantaneous transfer from animals to humans with no early warning break thru cases a year or two ahead of the full outbreak. I believe they would be afraid of the worlds reaction to China if it was proven.
 
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Redleg68 said:
Regardless of what they discover, I don't believe you will hear the information if it is decided that China created it in a lab, I firmly believe they did because it seems that this virus is not following the laws of nature on the way it acts and instantaneous transfer from animals to humans with no early warning break thru cases a year or two ahead of the full outbreak. I believe they would be afraid of the worlds reaction to China if it was proven.
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Because we were funding it
 
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He had a great radio voice.

I generally agreed with most of his political views. Not those concerning vaccinations.

Get the vaccine.

China (and those who funded the research) should be PUNISHED for the death, sicknesses, social turmoil and economic destruction they have brought down upon this world.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
No he wasn't anti-vaxxer, he just ridiculed the entire thing, made parody songs and gave this gem of a final Facebook post:

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Yeah he totally wasn't throwing any anti-vax crap out.
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People like you revel in this kind of S don’t you. Somebody you disagree with dies and you celebrate. Disgusting.
I listened to him almost every day and his message was simple…. If you’re high risk … take precautions… get vaccinated.
 
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bamawriter said:
Even worse, he replied to a comment on this post: "I won't be getting [the vaccine.] Why? Because I have full immunity."

That he believed that is tragic.
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I agree with the last sentence, no one has full immunity...... regardless of vaccination status.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Mississippi had to put out a statement telling people not to do it.

But sure....call it "liberal media". And your boy himself SAID the bleach thing. Party of personal responsiblity my ass.
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I see you’re one of “those” that really believe Trump told people to start injecting bleach. You’re a democrat….. lol
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Weird, the first-hand account from his family is one thing and you, someone who was not involved in any way in this matter, are drawing a conclusion out of thin air. Tell me again who's having a hard time with reality?
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First hand account reported by a new service. I’m sure you’ve spoken with his brother right? When you hear directly from his brother and his family, let me know. You are less involved in the matter than I am. Unless of course you like to disclose at this point in time that you too are a bedside nurse who has taken care of covid pts this last 18 months and can give a better perspective than mine.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
First hand account reported by a new service. I’m sure you’ve spoken with his brother right? When you hear directly from his brother and his family, let me know. You are less involved in the matter than I am. Unless of course you like to disclose at this point in time that you too are a bedside nurse who has taken care of covid pts this last 18 months and can give a better perspective than mine.
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Hey bud, why don't you watch the video I posted on page 1 of his thread where his brother says that Phil expressed regret for his messaging and wanted people to get vaccinated.

Are you calling his brother and family a liar? It sounds like you're calling them liars.
 
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Redleg68 said:
Regardless of what they discover, I don't believe you will hear the information if it is decided that China created it in a lab, I firmly believe they did because it seems that this virus is not following the laws of nature on the way it acts and instantaneous transfer from animals to humans with no early warning break thru cases a year or two ahead of the full outbreak. I believe they would be afraid of the worlds reaction to China if it was proven.
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Wild deer found to have coronavirus antibodies in four-state study – Nexstar Media Wire
 
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