Romney what are you doing???

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Vols520 said:
It was a private fundraiser to the uber wealthy. Of course his message is going to be different. You speak to your audience.
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Was the 10PM press conference last night where Romney doubled down on his remarks private?

He was speaking to the nation at the presser.
 
#102
#102
VolFan32 said:
How many times do people need to read that Obama wants government in control of almost every aspect of our lives?

VOTE BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND MORE DEBT
VOTE OBAMA!
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These people don't get it... They think in a socialist, government run society there will still be choices. They're misinformed... No choice between, Wally world or target. No choice between publix and kroger. You'll get your stuff from a government ran distribution center. This is the America these people are blindly voting for. They don't even know what they're asking for, which is sad.....
 
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volinbham said:
Probably the nail in the coffin unfortunately. We'll all lose as a result.
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He sure has not helped himself, that is for sure.
If he is listening to his advisors he need to fire everyone of them and hire new ones that know how to run a campaign.

If he is not listening to his advisors and being bullheaded , he deserves to lose.

There is a lot that can happen betweeen now and the election. He will have to do extremely well in the debates. He is going to have to quit making dumb mistakes to have any chance.

There could also be that October surprise or some type of major event flip the election such as the financial problems in 2008.

Romney biggest competition in this election is himself.
So far, himself has been making Romney look very bad.
 
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Gramps said:
He sure has not helped himself, that is for sure.
If he is listening to his advisors he need to fire everyone of them and hire new ones that know how to run a campaign.

If he is not listening to his advisors and being bullheaded , he deserves to lose.

There is a lot that can happen betweeen now and the election. He will have to do extremely well in the debates. He is going to have to quit making dumb mistakes to have any chance.

There could also be that October surprise or some type of major event flip the election such as the financial problems in 2008.

Romney biggest competition in this election is himself.
So far, himself has been making Romney look very bad.
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To Obama's base maybe. The others know what he meant..... We're going to find out in this election if we have more people pulling than pushing anymore. Should he have said it? Of course not. Because it wasn't politically correct to do so. Was there some truth there? Hell yeah there was.
 
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#106
lawgator1 said:
I don't derive my sense that the wealthy need to pay more in taxes based on religion. I come to that conclusion based on an amalgamation of philosophical points of view, including social contract and utilitarian bases.
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I am very big on social contract theory and utilitarianism. Social contract and utilitarian values have nothing to do with making a case for a progressive income tax.

Try again.
 
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therealUT said:
The social contract is not much of a philosophical viewpoint; this is why Rawls spent so much time redefining "justice" and presenting his "veil of ignorance" view, because the social contract is incoherent (even to contemporary philosophers who very much want to hold on to the social contract).
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Not really.
 
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#108
BigPapaVol said:
seriously? A government as solution provider mentality like that of Obama can win and only the R party is to blame? Please. It has taken decades of enablers and generations of burgeoning freeloader classes to make Obama a reality.
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Is a person who works their whole lives and who is dependent on social security, which they paid into for 40 years, a freeloader?
 
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#112
Is there any doubt that if Mitch Daniels had run and was the R candidate that he'd be up by about 10 points right now?
 
#113
#113
PKT_VOL said:
If they collect more than they paid in, yes.
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Don't agree .

It is a bad investment and as pj points out a scam.

You do not think that someone investing in the system for 45 years should receive a little interest on their investment?

The big problem with SS is the morons in Washington won't leave the funds along. They keep raiding the SS fund for other projects.

In 2000 the majority, including myself, made fun of Al Gore for his proposal to put the ss funds in a "lockbox". It appears now that Al was correct in his assessment of SS.
 
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Gramps said:
In 2000 the majority, including myself, made fun of Al Gore for his proposal to put the ss funds in a "lockbox". It appears now that Al was correct in his assessment of SS.
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Yep and treat it like the pension it is - set it aside and invest it some thing to earn some return. It's criminal the way it works now.
 
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#116
Gramps said:
Don't agree .

It is a bad investment and as pj points out a scam.

You do not think that someone investing in the system for 45 years should receive a little interest on their investment?

The big problem with SS is the morons in Washington won't leave the funds along. They keep raiding the SS fund for other projects.

In 2000 the majority, including myself, made fun of Al Gore for his proposal to put the ss funds in a "lockbox". It appears now that Al was correct in his assessment of SS.
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I don't disagree that it is a ponzi scheme.

Should it be a "lockbox" that is is invested to earn interest? Absolutely.

But lets not act like receiving more money than you paid in is not an entitlement. You may disagree with how it is run, as do I, but that does not change what it is.
 
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#119
utvolpj said:
I don't know why that's so difficult

I'll also add they were scammed by their govt
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They were scammed. So that's why I personally think those already receiving benefits or within ten years shouldn't be affected.

The rest of us shouldn't count on assistance.
 
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volinbham said:
Is there any doubt that if Mitch Daniels had run and was the R candidate that he'd be up by about 10 points right now?
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Yep. I don't blame Daniels for not running, though. I have no doubt that the media would spotlight his wife's indiscretion rather than his policies.
 
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#124
#124
The sponges were going to vote Obama anyway. Can't see how him basically saying what most of us already know will hurt him any worse..... The media will have a field day with it. I mean afterall this is the same media that was more critical of what Romney had to say about the attacks, than the apologist in office.
 
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