Ron Paul Can't Win

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MG1968 said:
and destroy his credibility? Ron Paul would be better off choosing Ross Perot.
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No kidding. I love Paul, but I'd have to put him on blast for a move like that. He's smarter than that. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
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nbakerld said:
No kidding. I love Paul, but I'd have to put him on blast for a move like that. He's smarter than that. I'll believe it when I see it.
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For choosing someone that served in the Special Forces in Vietnam, won an election for governor with only 300,000 dollars for his campaign, and isn't scared to speak what he believes in and actually knows what is going on in the world? Thats more than what most VPs have done for this country...
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codyg10 said:
For choosing someone that served in the Special Forces in Vietnam, won an election for governor with only 300,000 dollars for his campaign, and isn't scared to speak what he believes in and actually knows what is going on in the world? Thats more than what most VPs have done for this country...
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you conveniently leave out the fact that Ventura is a 911 Truther and all around conspiracy theorist.

as far as "knowing what's going on in the world", he has his opinions on what's going on, but being a clone of Alex Jones isn't going to fly outside of a certain, very small demographic
 
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codyg10 said:
For choosing someone that served in the Special Forces in Vietnam, won an election for governor with only 300,000 dollars for his campaign, and isn't scared to speak what he believes in and actually knows what is going on in the world? Thats more than what most VPs have done for this country...
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Yeah that's all nice, but then you look at the last 5 or so years and it's clear he's gone off the deep end. He's too much of a conspiracy theorist wacko. He detracts from issues where libertarians like Paul can make headway.
 
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A good read from Dr. Paul.

Starting on Day One, I will begin implementing my Plan to Restore America, which cuts $1 trillion in spending during my presidency’s first year alone and delivers a fully balanced budget by Year 3.

This plan is about priorities. Politicians play a game in which they give lip service to the voters’ concerns only to sacrifice a strong national defense, the needs of our veterans and the promises made to our seniors at the altar of attaining more power once in office.

I will lead a national discussion on how we might tweak cuts, and I will work with coalitions to make them in the fairest way possible and to plan the necessary transitions.

A Paul presidency will deny the politically connected the spot they have carved out at the American people’s expense. By immediately repealing such regulatory nightmares as Obamacare, Dodd-Frank and Sarbanes-Oxley, we will start to break the corporatism that places special interests over the average American.

My administration will fight for requirements styled after the REINS Act (Regulations From the Executive in Need of Scrutiny) to ensure all new bureaucratic regulations are thoroughly reviewed and approved by Congress before taking effect. I also will cancel all onerous regulations previously issued by executive order.

I will move to abolish all corporate subsidies and end all bailouts.

Read it all here..PAUL: One year to go - Washington Times
 
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myrobbins7 said:
Just incase anyone missed the 1hr. 30min debate last night here is the WHOLE 89 sec. CBS gave Dr. Paul.
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It's because he's not looked at as a serious candidate by most Americans. Regardless of how I feel about him, he is not going to be the Republican Candidate. He is wasting money and time carrying on with his candidacy. I love his ideas. But he will not, under any circumstances, be selected to run against Barack Obama.
 
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Ron Mexico said:
It's because he's not looked at as a serious candidate by most Americans. Regardless of how I feel about him, he is not going to be the Republican Candidate. He is wasting money and time carrying on with his candidacy. I love his ideas. But he will not, under any circumstances, be selected to run against Barack Obama.
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That's why he needs to drop the (R) party and just run as a (I). I think he ran under the (R) party to get his word out and air time, but I can't blame him if he dropped out of the party.
 
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myrobbins7 said:
That's why he needs to drop the (R) party and just run as a (I). I think he ran under the (R) party to get his word out and air time, but I can't blame him if he dropped out of the party.
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He won't be elected as an (I) either. Americans will only elect someone that call themselves Republican or Democrat. In general, the American public are a bunch of buffoons.
 
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The R party will not win the election if anyone other than Ron Paul is the candidate. All us RP supporters will either vote L or stay at home.

If Ron is the candidate, all the dyed in the wool R's WILL vote for him just to get Obama out.
 
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RP will get more than 89 seconds when he starts showing up in the national polls. He can win all the straw polls he wants, but until he actually starts gaining traction with people who don't pay to participate in a poll, he won't get any face time during a debate.
 
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MG1968 said:
RP will get more than 89 seconds when he starts showing up in the national polls. He can win all the straw polls he wants, but until he actually starts gaining traction with people who don't pay to participate in a poll, he won't get any face time during a debate.
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That can't be right. MG, you must just not understand. :)

I like Paul and some of his ideas, but it's comical to me how many are completely married to the guy.
 
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What's Ras going to do when VN releases the guest editorial Erik Ainge sent us endorsing Ron Paul?
 
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GAVol said:
What's Ras going to do when VN releases the guest editorial Erik Ainge sent us endorsing Ron Paul?
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Ron Paul cannot control who supports him. All he can do is send his message out there and whoever it reaches and resonates with is out of his control.

Having said that, it would not change my opinion of Erik Ainge. He set this program back 10 years.
 
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GAVol said:
That can't be right. MG, you must just not understand. :)

I like Paul and some of his ideas, but it's comical to me how many are completely married to the guy.
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I don't think it's strange for people to deeply admire somebody with true conviction in a position so ripe with opportunity.
 
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nbakerld said:
I don't think it's strange for people to deeply admire somebody with true conviction in a position so ripe with opportunity.
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No problem with anyone being a devoted supporter. I was speaking to those taking it a step further and acting as if it's incontrovertible that he's the only answer.
 
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Name one other candidate in the field that has his voting record and campaigns on his message and I would gladly say that you have a point.

Otherwise, the majority of the clowns in the GOP race are going to be equal to or slightly to the left of GWB. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
 
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GAVol said:
His policy positions have nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
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His positions are EXACTLY what drives some of his followers, though. You said you didn't understand how people could believe that he was the only option (or something along those lines). I'm saying that as far as his loyal following is concerned, his positions ARE the thing that separates him from everybody else... which makes him the only option for them/us.

You can call it blind loyalty or cultist loyalty or whatever makes it easier for you to wrap your mind around. But the fact is that not even you can say that there is anybody out there in the same zip code as Ron Paul in the GOP race. He is unique.
 
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