Ron Paul Can't Win

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Careful with this...you may pre in your pants:

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BigPapaVol said:
government experience? seriously? I can't imagine a worse trait to use as a primary qualifier.
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How else can you judge if a candidate will stick to his guns or not? How else can you KNOW what that candidate backs? What he votes on? What he believes in? Where his direction will lead the country?


For people like Cain, all the knowledge you on his policies are either what he tells you, or the occasional past public support (like how he supported TARP in 2008...). Luckily for us, Cain tells it to us straight from the heart, without thinking, in all its unadulterated retardation. It makes for an easy decision. It's not until later, after someone of his campaign is like "Uh, Herman, maybe you shouldn't have said that" that he retracts his statements and backpedals.
 
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Stupified said:
I'm sorry, but I like my presidents to have government experience. Running a world power is nothing like running a business. You think Herman Cain can lead this country? The man can't even lead himself out of the holes he digs during interviews. He's a racist, flip-flopping fool who does not belong in the highest office in America. And I'm not even addressing the joke that is the 9-9-9 plan.
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how is he a racist?

let me guess, you voted for Obama and think all black people should be democrats?
 
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Stupified said:
Out of everything in that quote, you pick out that? And then attack me ad hominem? Lol buddy.
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it's the one thing that sticks out, that you think Herman Cain is a racist. It's one thing to have an opinion on his 999 Plan, but to call him a racist without backing it up?
 
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Stupified said:
How else can you judge if a candidate will stick to his guns or not? How else can you KNOW what that candidate backs? What he votes on? What he believes in? Where his direction will lead the country?


For people like Cain, all the knowledge you on his policies are either what he tells you, or the occasional past public support (like how he supported TARP in 2008...). Luckily for us, Cain tells it to us straight from the heart, without thinking, in all its unadulterated retardation. It makes for an easy decision. It's not until later, after someone of his campaign is like "Uh, Herman, maybe you shouldn't have said that" that he retracts his statements and backpedals.
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I don't give a crap about their past voting history. They all get away with disavowing their records. What I can go on is that Herman Cain is a capitalist who earned his stripes where wealth is created, rather than living off the money taken from capitalists.

That means his approach is different and if it means ripping apart Washington and starting over, fine by me. We'd truly be best served by a guy or gal who would just ignore the status quo, or question it to the hilt. Much of our problem is ingrained DC bullshiz.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't give a crap about their past voting history. They all get away with disavowing their records. What I can go on is that Herman Cain is a capitalist who earned his stripes where wealth is created, rather than living off the money taken from capitalists.

That means his approach is different and if it means ripping apart Washington and starting over, fine by me. We'd truly be best served by a guy or gal who would just ignore the status quo, or question it to the hilt. Much of our problem is ingrained DC bullshiz.
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Isn't that what Paul stands for? Though I'm not sure I agree with all his points (don't know enough about pros and cons of the fed), he certainly can be discribed by everything you've said above.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
Isn't that what Paul stands for? Though I'm not sure I agree with all his points (don't know enough about pros and cons of the fed), he certainly can be discribed by everything you've said above.
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Yeah, domestically, but BPV and many others don't like his foreign policy. It's change from the status quo, but too extreme for them.
 
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nbakerld said:
Yeah, domestically, but BPV and many others don't like his foreign policy. It's change from the status quo, but too extreme for them.
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Ya. I'm too ignorant of what our foreign policy has helped protect us from to make an informed decision.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
Isn't that what Paul stands for? Though I'm not sure I agree with all his points (don't know enough about pros and cons of the fed), he certainly can be discribed by everything you've said above.
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and I completely agree with his approach to domestic politics.
 
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MG1968 said:
it's the one thing that sticks out, that you think Herman Cain is a racist. It's one thing to have an opinion on his 999 Plan, but to call him a racist without backing it up?
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Anti-Muslim, practically anti-black as well, though I would say that he's just playing that up in order to get the Tea Party behind him.


BigPapaVol said:
I don't give a crap about their past voting history. They all get away with disavowing their records. What I can go on is that Herman Cain is a capitalist who earned his stripes where wealth is created, rather than living off the money taken from capitalists.

That means his approach is different and if it means ripping apart Washington and starting over, fine by me. We'd truly be best served by a guy or gal who would just ignore the status quo, or question it to the hilt. Much of our problem is ingrained DC bullshiz.
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You know the one politician that has been solid and rock steady? The only one who's picked a stance and stuck to it? Ron Paul.

Herman Cain can't say that. He changes his stances with each new interview or debate. I would rather vote for the rumblin' bumblin' stumblin' Rick Perry than Cain, because at least Perry has some administrative experience and knows how to run a government. The best political ideals in the world (which is very relative) won't do any good if the person in the background can't administer them, and I don't think Cain has the political intelligence to navigate through our bipartisan government.
 
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If you think he doesn't say half the stuff he says about African Americans simply to make the Tea Party feel like they can vote for a black, you're delusional.



Tea Party thought process:
"Oh, this guy isn't like the others! He can't stand black freeloaders. Let's vote for him.......

.... See guys, we're not racist."
 
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Stupified said:
If you think he doesn't say half the stuff he says about African Americans simply to make the Tea Party feel like they can vote for a black, you're delusional.

Tea Party thought process:
"Oh, this guy isn't like the others! He can't stand black freeloaders. Let's vote for him.......

.... See guys, we're not racist."
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Examples? They should be easy to cite and justify, since it's "half the stuff he says".
 
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Stupified said:
If you think he doesn't say half the stuff he says about African Americans simply to make the Tea Party feel like they can vote for a black, you're delusional.



Tea Party thought process:
"Oh, this guy isn't like the others! He can't stand black freeloaders. Let's vote for him.......

.... See guys, we're not racist."
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I see that you're getting your talking points from LG.
 
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nbakerld said:
Examples?
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You call it retarded but then ask for examples? Have you been following the Republican circus this fall?

He has essentially been trying to win conservative white voters by insulting the intelligence of African Americans. I know, I know. I think the reason he gave for blacks being mostly Democratic is because they are "brainwashed."
 
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Stupified said:
You call it retarded but then ask for examples? Have you been following the Republican circus this fall?

He has essentially been trying to win conservative white voters by insulting the intelligence of African Americans. I know, I know. I think the reason he gave for blacks being mostly Democratic is because they are "brainwashed."
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if not brainwashed, then what? Take a look at inner-city crapholes like Detroit and Chicago, places that have been run by democrats for decades.
 
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Stupified said:
You call it retarded but then ask for examples? Have you been following the Republican circus this fall?

He has essentially been trying to win conservative white voters by insulting the intelligence of African Americans. I know, I know. I think the reason he gave for blacks being mostly Democratic is because they are "brainwashed."
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Since you basically have nothing to back yourself up I googled "Herman Cain Racist" and this is the top relevant result:

Exhibit A: He said on CNN that black voters have been "brainwashed" into not "thinking for themselves" or "even considering a conservative point of view." Funny, but I didn't hear similar complaints when black voters -- like me -- said they would be delighted to consider Colin Powell, if he were to run. But, oh, yeah, Powell is a moderate Republican, a nearly extinct breed in today's tea-party-fueled GOP.

Exhibit B: Cain has described the Democratic Party as a "plantation" for black voters. In fact, plantation politics were cited in the 1960s when blacks walked away en masse from the party of Abe Lincoln. Conservative Republicans nominated Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona, who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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Exhibit A and B are both weak, and there is no Exhibit C. Saying black democrats are brainwashed is not racist. If he had said something like "[all] blacks are easy to brainwash when it comes to politics" then I'd be with you on this one.

Herman Cain's Racial Offense
 
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MG1968 said:
if not brainwashed, then what? Take a look at inner-city crapholes like Detroit and Chicago, places that have been run by democrats for decades.
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A party tries to subdue an entire race, and you call it brainwashing when they switch support to the other party? I'm not following here. Since FDR the Democratic Party has been appealing to minorities for a number of valid reasons. The segregationist Republican Party only solidified that in the 50s and 60s.
 
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