Russia Blocks Kerch Strait

[carlos86]

The Crimea doesn’t belong to Ukraine anymore...

And obviously they didn’t use proper protocol, as in prior instances of using the strait..

Crimea doesn’t belong to Russia either. They SEIZED it by use of military force.

 

[Grand Vol]

You joke, but instead of our State Department sending cookies, we sent arms to Kiev. You do realize this, correct?

And?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Because of who is trying to expand his territory. When there is a skirmish between two small states that does not threaten to expand, no, we might tend to stay out of it.

But when a major nuclear power like Russia starts taking over other countries, especially pushing towards Europe, it matters.

Russia has no intentions or ambitions of threatening Europe. They have too much to lose economically in terms of energy sales and non-energy trade.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Russia has no intentions or ambitions of threatening Europe. They have too much to lose economically in terms of energy sales and non-energy trade.

They appear to have all kinds of intention of threatening Ukraine however eh?

 

[Burhead]

You joke, but instead of our State Department sending cookies, we sent arms to Kiev. You do realize this, correct?

200 odd Javelin missiles and 37 launchers plus a few armored humvees? Oh the horror.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The Crimea doesn’t belong to Ukraine anymore...

And obviously they didn’t use proper protocol, as in prior instances of using the strait..

And truth be told, Crimea was still essentially a province of Russia because they had their Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol even after the collapse of the USSR.

 

[lawgator1]

Russia has no intentions or ambitions of threatening Europe. They have too much to lose economically in terms of energy sales and non-energy trade.

You sure about that ?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

They appear to have all kinds of intention of threatening Ukraine however eh?

We are arming the Ukrainians. They are not attacking Ukraine, it appears this far, without provocation.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You sure about that ?

They can barely hold together the Russian Federation they have right now. They have no ambition to expand past that. They have learned from the US how expensive holding and maintaining and empire can be.

 

[Grand Vol]

Oh come on. You know the answer to that.

You're right.

It has nothing to do with Trump.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

And?

And? Weapons on Russia's border from another foreign power is just as provocative as missiles being placed in Cuba.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Just so we can push LG out of here, can we at least all agree that this situation wasn't started or worsened by Trump?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Freeze more oligarch assets, for starters. That's where it hurts.

Lol, ok

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Crimea doesn’t belong to Russia either. They SEIZED it by use of military force.

Then we need to release our claims to the southwestern United States...

 

[Orange_Crush]

Then we need to release our claims to the southwestern United States...

Southeastern for that matter.

 

[carlos86]

Southeastern for that matter.

It’s called the Treaty of Paris.

 

[carlos86]

 

[lawgator1]

They can barely hold together the Russian Federation they have right now. They have no ambition to expand past that. They have learned from the US how expensive holding and maintaining and empire can be.

And? Weapons on Russia's border from another foreign power is just as provocative as missiles being placed in Cuba.

Just so we can push LG our of here, can we at least all agree that this situation wasn't started or worsened by Trump?

Then we need to release our claims to the southwestern United States...

So is your cubicle actually in the Kremlin or do they have you holed up in an old gulag or something?

 

[NorthDallas40]

We are arming the Ukrainians. They are not attacking Ukraine, it appears this far, without provocation.

Oh ffs...

 

[Velo Vol]

Just so we can push LG our of here, can we at least all agree that this situation wasn't started or worsened by Trump?

Trump didn't start it.

Trump hasn't materially altered Obama's punishments, in fact he added lethal arms sales.

However, from the bully pulpit he's been pretty terrible (e.g., undermining NATO unity).

 

[0nelilreb]

Trump didn't start it.

Trump hasn't materially altered Obama's punishments, in fact he added lethal arms sales.

However, from the bully pulpit he's been pretty terrible (e.g., undermining NATO unity).

NATOs unity ? If by that he’s told them in no uncertain terms that the US is done being their endless piggy bank , yeah I guess he did . The Euro Elites are still United they just can’t turn their snobby little noses up as high to us or Trump will pour water in them .

 

[Grand Vol]

And? Weapons on Russia's border from another foreign power is just as provocative as missiles being placed in Cuba.

You've spoken against the Chinese in this regard?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Sadly, as before, the only real leverage likely to be exercised by the west here are sanctions.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You've spoken against the Chinese in this regard?

What do you mean?

 

[LouderVol]

This incident didn't just start out of the blue. There was a catalyst for this. It will be very interesting to see how this story develops over the next few days. I'm sure Ukrainian vessels have had access to the Sea of Azov since 2014, so undoubtedly, there was some shenanigans that were going on that the Russians may have gotten some intel about recently. Western interests transferring arms to the Eastern Ukrainian provinces possibly?

Seems fishy

bwahahahahahaha.