Saw a player today at the Walmart

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I can't argue with you guys if you seriously don't feel any shred of wrong doing is done in this act. That concerns me a bit.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
You have to be kidding me dude. Shooting a dog with a BB gun.
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Ok, help me out here. Do you live in the city? I am talking about a rural country setting with no lease laws.

Lets say you have an inside dog. He pees on the carpet. You whack him with a rolled up magazine, rub his nose in it. Show him how to go outside. He learns right? Is that ok?
 
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Jackson_Harris said:
Ok, help me out here. Do you live in the city? I am talking about a rural country setting with no lease laws.

Lets say you have an inside dog. He pees on the carpet. You whack him with a rolled up magazine, rub his nose in it. Show him how to go outside. He learns right? Is that ok?
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Absolutely. That's a reasonable tactic (debatably effective -has worked for me). Do you not think there's a HUGE difference between that and shooting it??
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Absolutely. That's a reasonable tactic (debatably effective -has worked for me). Do you not think there's a HUGE difference between that and shooting it??
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What's the difference between popping the dog with a newspaper and popping it with a BB? You act like I'm taking a .50 Cal to the dog's skull.

THe BB isn't going to hurt the dog anymore than the newspaper.
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
What's the difference between popping the dog with a newspaper and popping it with a BB? You act like I'm taking a .50 Cal to the dog's skull.

THe BB isn't going to hurt the dog anymore than the newspaper.
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Lol, yes I understand the scope and perspective of it being a BB gun. There really is no point in me arguing if you seriously and sincerely feel that shooting a dog with a BB gun is no worse than popping it with a newspaper.
 
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I mean, seriously guys, if any of you are dog owners, would you not flip s*** if someone shot your dog? Especially if the owner SEES you do it - they won't know that it's just a BB gun. For all they know, you're trying to kill their dog.

But it is the owner's responsibility to make sure his dog stays out of trouble.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Absolutely. That's a reasonable tactic (debatably effective -has worked for me). Do you not think there's a HUGE difference between that and shooting it??
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I will admit that there is a difference...and I do admit that perhaps it is a borderline tactic. If I was real close friends with the guy next door, then I might have felt considerable in calling him, saying I am tired of stepping in your dogs poop. Please make it stop.

However, in this case, I was not really friends with the guy. Indifferent one way or the other. Right or wrong, I felt it was between me and the dog. I wasn't worried about shooting him in the eye or anything. I am a good shot. I waited until he was still, then popped him in the rear quarters from 50-60 feet away. After doing that a couple of times, he started going somewhere else to poop. So it solved my problem, the dog was fine, the neighbor never knew the difference to my knowledge.

But I can see your point I guess. If someone is careful about it, I would not mind them shooting my dog to get him out of their yard. It is their yard. Now, I am now talking about shooting them with a shotgun or anything like that. I would rather that happen than dealing with police, trying to figure out how to train my dog to poop in the right place.

In town, obviously you must follow leash laws and no firing of guns. but in the country, dogs either run loose. Or are typically released from a cage to get out and run around some. A dog that stays 24/7 on a chain and has to poop/pee in that little circle is what I consider dog abuse.

You may be right? It is definitely a debatable topic.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I mean, seriously guys, if any of you are dog owners, would you not flip s*** if someone shot your dog? Especially if the owner SEES you do it - they won't know that it's just a BB gun. For all they know, you're trying to kill their dog.

But it is the owner's responsibility to make sure his dog stays out of trouble.
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If I see it happen, I can tell by the sound whether it is a rifle, shotgun or bee-bee gun. if I don't see it happen, I can tell by looking at my dog if he has been shot by a shotgun or rifle. If he gets hit by a bee bee, I don't see that is much differnt from some old lady throwing a rock at him.
 
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I kind of wish one neighbor would fire at my dog because I will say I thought the gun was real and aimed at me after the po po find his arm laying in his driveway from an uma thurman type slice with a sword.
 
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Thank you for the insightful response. I feel like we're at a stalemate.

I don't think I overtly said this, but I DO understand that the dog probably won't be seriously injured. I guess my morals have really slipped in to this argument. Still SEEMS like a cut-and-dry cruelty case to me though. I mean, can you imagine explaining what you did to a judge? (hypothetically)
 
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Jackson_Harris said:
If I see it happen, I can tell by the sound whether it is a rifle, shotgun or bee-bee gun. if I don't see it happen, I can tell by looking at my dog if he has been shot by a shotgun or rifle. If he gets hit by a bee bee, I don't see that is much differnt from some old lady throwing a rock at him.
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Very reasonable. But if you saw the guy aiming a gun, you most likely wouldn't be able to tell if it were real or not.

And I wouldn't want any old ladies throwing rocks at my dog either hahaha. It all comes back to the owners being responsible. It is the owner's fault if the situation escalates to that.
 
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Hate that I'm even commenting on this thread. This is a jackass thread if the player wants to buy a bb gun or a shotgun or an AR-15 it doesnt matter as long as he is responsible you all need to chill the hell out and remember that these guys are still real people just like the rest of us except they play football for the University of Tennessee. They are still allowed the same rights as the rest of us.
 
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OrangeHammer said:
I got an idea.. how about you mind your own business. Even if a player is looking at REAL guns.. mind your own business. I'm sure Curt Maggitt owns guns, he's an outdoors-man. Who cares? Obviously you do. Run and tattle tale to Volnation.

Stupid thread.
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Agreed.
 
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The only thing more stupid than the original post was the debate about the dog shooting...This thread should be in the showcase of the Stupid Volnation Threads Hall of Fame...
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I think Jackson is leaving to make some sweet sweet love.
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No sweet love...yet! LOL! You have made me stop and think about that. It is one of those things I saw my dad do probably 5-6 times when I was growing up. So I just assumed it was ok.

But after thinking about what you had to say, admittedly I wouldn't shoot my own dog for pooping in my yard or in the neighbor's yard.

Tell you what...I have since moved from the rural 5 acre place. I now live in a subdivision. So I won't be shooting any more dogs with my BB gun.

How about squirrels? Can I shoot at squirrels to keep them from getting on my roof and possibly into my attic to make noise at night?
 
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