Seniors may not even try against Vandy

Nothing would surprise me. The losing culture was here when DD got here and he didn't fix it. This Sr class will be the third Sr class in a row that lost a lot of games and had no Sr leadership that showed them how to win when they were underclassmen, so they don't know how to show the next group.
Hopefully the next coach can make it happen.

Not the same thing as intentionally throwing the game.
 
There are people in the media that believe Bray will shut it down against Vandy so he doesn't have to go to a low end bowl. The people who say this state he just wants his career here to end, along with a few others, and losing to Vandy seals him not having to see Dooley past the Kentucky game.

To a certain degree, I can't blame him if true.


What say you guys?

Will Bray and team come out with a careless attitude against Vandy?

Considering we start mostly juniors, who cares if a couple of bench warmers quit?
 
I'm believing they will wont to kick the chit out of Vandy. Until I see otherwise I'm going with that.
 
Not the same thing as intentionally throwing the game.

Oh I know. This junk would have worn me out as a player and I'd be about ready to get the eff out. Mentally checked out is a possibility and human nature. Let's hope the supposed character we were recruiting shows with fighting. Just not too sure about anything when I look up and see Wilks and Toney make plays. They are trying. The talent just isn't there and the coaching hasn't helped in some areas.
 
There are people in the media that believe Bray will shut it down against Vandy so he doesn't have to go to a low end bowl. The people who say this state he just wants his career here to end, along with a few others, and losing to Vandy seals him not having to see Dooley past the Kentucky game.

To a certain degree, I can't blame him if true.


What say you guys?

Will Bray and team come out with a careless attitude against Vandy?

The "media" who said this is basing it off of Bray's comments from last year, saying a low-end bowl "doesn't mean anything".

Nothing to see here.
 
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There are people in the media that believe Bray will shut it down against Vandy so he doesn't have to go to a low end bowl. The people who say this state he just wants his career here to end, along with a few others, and losing to Vandy seals him not having to see Dooley past the Kentucky game.

To a certain degree, I can't blame him if true.


What say you guys?

Will Bray and team come out with a careless attitude against Vandy?

Well if the media says it, it must be right. Theyre never wrong. They dont lie.
 
This has got to be the stupidest-assed thread I've seen created (Yeah, I just made the word up) For one of you jock-sniffers to insinuate that players aren't going to go out and try to win a game is just freaking STUPID!!! Obviously you've never played a team sport! Please do the rest of the board a favor and STFU and go back down to your mommas basement!!!
 
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Volly you never answered my question.

Not fair.

Your turn and be honest, my lady.
 
There are people in the media that believe Bray will shut it down against Vandy so he doesn't have to go to a low end bowl. The people who say this state he just wants his career here to end, along with a few others, and losing to Vandy seals him not having to see Dooley past the Kentucky game.

To a certain degree, I can't blame him if true.


What say you guys?

Will Bray and team come out with a careless attitude against Vandy?

If this is true, then ?Bray has taken Dooley down, not vice versa. I don't believe it.
 
This has got to be the stupidest-assed thread I've seen created (Yeah, I just made the word up) For one of you jock-sniffers to insinuate that players aren't going to go out and try to win a game is just freaking STUPID!!! Obviously you've never played a team sport! Please do the rest of the board a favor and STFU and go back down to your mommas basement!!!


didn't really seem like the team wanted to beat ky last year.
If you played football, you had a few guys that didn't give a flip on the team towards the end of the season.
 
This has got to be the stupidest-assed thread I've seen created (Yeah, I just made the word up) For one of you jock-sniffers to insinuate that players aren't going to go out and try to win a game is just freaking STUPID!!! Obviously you've never played a team sport! Please do the rest of the board a favor and STFU and go back down to your mommas basement!!!

I would like to commend both the made up words and the sentiment of this post.
 
This has got to be the stupidest-assed thread I've seen created (Yeah, I just made the word up) For one of you jock-sniffers to insinuate that players aren't going to go out and try to win a game is just freaking STUPID!!! Obviously you've never played a team sport! Please do the rest of the board a favor and STFU and go back down to your mommas basement!!!

grandma?
 
I would like to commend both the made up words and the sentiment of this post.

Gavol you I respect. You are level headed so this kinda hurts.

Bray stated he threw in the towel last year.

His words.


How is this worst than Gruden Thread XXXV?

There is some potential truth here.
 
Volly you never answered my question.

Not fair.

Your turn and be honest, my lady.

Uh, hello?

Ah. OK. Keep in mind my answer is based on the assumption that Bray is looking to be draftable at the end of this year. If he isn't, then what I have to say isn't going to matter in the least.

My opinions are in bold.

I think Bray is wore out. Wore out? If this is all he has it doesn't matter what he does cause he isn't ready for the NFL.

I think the 38 second run off at the end of the game burned him out for good. I think he may come back if a new coach is brought in who he believes will help him grow and get a higher draft pick but unless something changes I think he's mentally out. Burned him out for good? If that's the case, he wasn't made of the right stock imo to begin with. And that's not a slam on him, if we were all made of the right stuff the world would be a better place. It isn't.

Bray is human. You can destroy a kid mentally by ripping the rug out from under him enough. The GA loss and the SC loss were alot his fault and the last game was barely his fault. He could be fried.Bray threw bottles in the vicinity of a parked car this summer. That is immaturity on a scale that doesn't belong in the starting QB of a D1 school. My kids knew this wasn't right when they were in middle school.

I'm not thekids shrink nor do I pretend to know his thoughts. I am not going to speculate on whether he will or will shut it down....but I will speculate that his game psyche has to be exhausted.I'm tired of hearing about his fragile psyche. That's bullcrap. If he's psyched out so easily he doesn't need to have the benefit of a full ride.

Clay (and I agree) said Dooley is a virus that has spread throught the team and no one knows how to win now. This I do agree with.Uh, no. The coach not knowing how to call plays to win doesn't equal players who are good not being able to throw, catch, or tackle adequately.

Here ya go.

Did I miss another question? Or did you miss my answer?
 
Gavol you I respect. You are level headed so this kinda hurts.

Bray stated he threw in the towel last year.

His words.


How is this worst than Gruden Thread XXXV?

There is some potential truth here.

It's bad because the thread specifically is about the Seniors . . . a small group that has been through coach hell and none of whom have ever been accused of laying down. Also, I think it sucks when fans start projecting behaviors that haven't happened yet on the players in order to fit a narrative.
 
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I would be more inclined to believe that the ones who think they are nfl ready have layed out of class and wouldn't be eligible anyways for the bowl.
 
Uh, hello?



Did I miss another question? Or did you miss my answer?

Missed your post.

Was also on way home or would have responded earlier.

I respect you and Gavol but disagree on a few points.


We'll see if I am wrong.
 
There are people in the media that believe Bray will shut it down against Vandy so he doesn't have to go to a low end bowl. The people who say this state he just wants his career here to end, along with a few others, and losing to Vandy seals him not having to see Dooley past the Kentucky game.

To a certain degree, I can't blame him if true.


What say you guys?

Will Bray and team come out with a careless attitude against Vandy?

People have been predicting that they would quit ever since the Florida game, and they have not. Ironically, they did quit in the 4th against Florida, but that's the only time this season.

They fought to the end Saturday, hung in and beat Troy, played to the end vs. USCe, Uga. Why the hell would they quit now? Give em some credit.
 

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