Several NCAA asst basketball coaches arrested

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bamawriter said:
The apparel companies don't have quite the same influence on college football that they do on basketball. I won't say that this situation will have no impact on CFB, but I bet it's not as significant.
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Agree. There are 2 things going on. The Auburn one has nothing to do with Adidas.

For the Adidas one it appears the structure of the AAU (or whatever it is) with the companies sponsoring camps is where individuals are identified, hooked and hopefully result in shoe deals post college.

I did hear one sports attorney suggest that the 7 on 7 leagues might be the closest thing on the football side. Look for something here if it impacts football.
 
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volinbham said:
Agree. There are 2 things going on. The Auburn one has nothing to do with Adidas.

For the Adidas one it appears the structure of the AAU (or whatever it is) with the companies sponsoring camps is where individuals are identified, hooked and hopefully result in shoe deals post college.

I did hear one sports attorney suggest that the 7 on 7 leagues might be the closest thing on the football side. Look for something here if it impacts football.
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That's a great point.
 
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volinbham said:
I did hear one sports attorney suggest that the 7 on 7 leagues might be the closest thing on the football side. Look for something here if it impacts football.
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The 7-on-7 leagues are an issue, and they have been for a while. The Lache Seastrunk mess at Oregon involved a 7-on-7 coach.

But they aren't nearly as integral to football recruiting as AAU is to basketball.
 
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bamawriter said:
The 7-on-7 leagues are an issue, and they have been for a while. The Lache Seastrunk mess at Oregon involved a 7-on-7 coach.

But they aren't nearly as integral to football recruiting as AAU is to basketball.
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I was just saying if it shows up that'd be the place to look.

For a sports apparel company, betting on an individual football player at the HS level to move through college then be someone you sign to deal when they turn pro has much longer odds/lower payoff than Bball so I'm betting unless Bball was tapped out there's not much to see in Football.

Now the stuff that happened with Person could be more likely if that agency group was trying to get coaches to push promising players to sign with them. Though that scheme is going to end up being small potatoes compared to the Adidas stuff IMHO.
 
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volinbham said:
Now the stuff that happened with Person could be more likely if that agency group was trying to get coaches to push promising players to sign with them. Though that scheme is going to end up being small potatoes compared to the Adidas stuff IMHO.
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Yeah. Adidas is the big fish. The question is how many smaller fish get caught in the net?
 
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bamawriter said:
The apparel companies don't have quite the same influence on college football that they do on basketball. I won't say that this situation will have no impact on CFB, but I bet it's not as significant.
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If I understand correctly, the apparel companies were the ones that fronted the money to the coaches to then recruit the athletes. This tied them to certain agents, long term, which benefited the apparel companies.

In football, I'm thinking that its the agents, themselves, fronting the money. But same basic premise of giving it to the family, not the kid. Consider all the things we learned later bout Cam Newton's family.
 
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lawgator1 said:
In football, I'm thinking that its the agents, themselves, fronting the money. But same basic premise of giving it to the family, not the kid. Consider all the things we learned later bout Cam Newton's family.
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That his daddy's church got a big new steeple?
 
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lawgator1 said:
In football, I'm thinking that its the agents, themselves, fronting the money. But same basic premise of giving it to the family, not the kid. Consider all the things we learned later bout Cam Newton's family.
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True. But, like I said earlier, it's not illegal for an agent to pay a recruit or his family. It's against NCAA rules, but there's no legal ramification.

Now, some states have laws regarding compromising the eligibility of an athlete at a state institution. They don't come with jail time, but the agent can lose his license in the state. But since this a federal investigation, those laws seem irrelevant to the cases at hand.
 
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RollinVol said:
If Nike gets drawn up in this. Then MTSU and Ole Miss will be chewing their fingernails. Since Rick's son coaches Ole Miss, but their brother leads one of the largest Nike AAU programs in Murfreesboro. I think this thing is just starting to ramp up. A girl from our area played for That AAU program. Her final two choices for college. MTSU and Ole Miss. I hope everything was legit. but all this coming down makes things interesting.
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Rick son coaches at Minnesota -- if its Pitino you are referring to
 
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CountVolcula said:
Alabama basketball assistant has resigned

Please, for the love of everything voly, let this get to Bama Football
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Have to believe even if it does not get them directly, it affects them indirectly.

When you start seeing people go to jail, you start reevaluating your choices.
 
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Baker apparently took money to steer Sexton toward the targetted financial advisor.
 
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bamawriter said:
True. But, like I said earlier, it's not illegal for an agent to pay a recruit or his family. It's against NCAA rules, but there's no legal ramification.

Now, some states have laws regarding compromising the eligibility of an athlete at a state institution. They don't come with jail time, but the agent can lose his license in the state. But since this a federal investigation, those laws seem irrelevant to the cases at hand.
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If a recruit took money as part of an agreement and did not pay taxes on it then it is tax evasion. Do you think that is legal too? And by the way, you can substitute the terms, (Dodge Charger, or stylish suits) as money in the previous sentence.
 
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