SIAP. Texas could get James Franklin?

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#78
I could see a chain reaction where Franklin leaves as the 3rd or 4th domino in line. Will be interesting to see all the effects the Texas hire has.
 
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immyaxl said:
Dooley beat Jones and Jones had a conference champion team while Dools had a 5-7 squad.
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That was also the only team of significance that season to face Justin Hunter and Da'Rick Rogers with Bray at QB that season.....along with a Wilcox coached defense.
 
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#80
James Franklin is not high profile enough to be given serious consideration for the Texas job. Look for them to pursue Jimbo Fisher, Brian Kelly, or maybe Gus Malzahn after what he accomplished this year at Auburn.
 
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dgcarter43 said:
James Franklin is not high profile enough to be given serious consideration for the Texas job. Look for them to pursue Jimbo Fisher, Brian Kelly, or maybe Gus Malzahn after what he accomplished this year at Auburn.
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I understand Fisher and Kelly, but I find it interesting people would choose Malzahn after just one year with a loaded Auburn team, while overlooking what Franklin has done the past three years at Vandy. Especially considering all the turmoil that happened before this season.
 
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immyaxl said:
:lolabove:
Comparing Franklin to kiffen? Franklin can coach and Kiffen is a snake oil salesman!
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Pay attention to what I said:

He'd definitely have to adjust his style. I don't think his schtick he's used at Vandy would play very well at Texas. It would be a very Kiffin-esque hire from that aspect.
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My point was that Franklin has been brash and loud at Vandy, poking any other team he can right in the eye. It works because Vandy is a place where one has to make a little noise to be noticed.

I said the hire would be Kiffin-esque because, if he failed to adjust his style, Franklin would not fit the culture at Texas.

Reading comprehension is fun. You should try it.


As for you wanting to gloss over the rape investigation, you are more dense than I thought if you believe that its 'over' and not an issue. I can be cleared up, but its still an issue he will have to face.
 
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dgcarter43 said:
James Franklin is not high profile enough to be given serious consideration for the Texas job. Look for them to pursue Jimbo Fisher, Brian Kelly, or maybe Gus Malzahn after what he accomplished this year at Auburn.
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This rightchere, but, Bevoholes don't know they cant have any of these listed. Franklin is a garlic milkshake.
 
#84
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Yea that would be dooleys biggest win at UT. Hey quick question how come Vandy fans come on UT message boards and are free to say what they want but a UT fan is not welcome on Vandy message boards?
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I don't go on Vandy message boards because there is no one there but Vandy fans. I haven't always been welcome here but I like debating with fans who have different opinions.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Pay attention to what I said:



My point was that Franklin has been brash and loud at Vandy, poking any other team he can right in the eye. It works because Vandy is a place where one has to make a little noise to be noticed.

I said the hire would be Kiffin-esque because, if he failed to adjust his style, Franklin would not fit the culture at Texas.

Reading comprehension is fun. You should try it.


As for you wanting to gloss over the rape investigation, you are more dense than I thought if you believe that its 'over' and not an issue. I can be cleared up, but its still an issue he will have to face.
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I haven't glossed over anything. Franklin wasn't involved end of story!
 
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immyaxl said:
I haven't glossed over anything. Franklin wasn't involved end of story!
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No, not directly as far as we know.

But it happened on his watch as the leader of the program. Therefore he has to answer the questions surrounding it.

Its simply the nature of being in a leadership role.
 
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immyaxl said:
:lolabove:
Comparing Franklin to kiffen? Franklin can coach and Kiffen is a snake oil salesman!
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Laugh all you want but Texas requires some sense of class from their head coach. The fans on their message boards are already laughing at his requirements for his coaching staff. You know? The hot wife requirement?
Oozes class.
 
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#89
daj2576 said:
I got in a cordial but passionate debate with a good friend (a Vandy Law graduate). As a UT grad, I did some digging and examined Vandy's wins under Franklin. Here are the results as quoted from me to him via email:

"During the greatest stretch in Vandy history (aided in no small part to the downward trend at UT and some incredible scheduling "luck"), Vandy has gone to three bowl games. I concede that is unprecedented. The reason that Vandy doesn't get invites to "better" bowls is certain: scheduling. In three years, the teams that Vandy has beaten average a 4-8 record. 6 of the 23 individual victories of Vandy's came against teams who were so bad that the HC was replaced. Vandy has only beaten 4 teams in three years who were bowl eligible.

Vandy, under Franklin, has never beaten a team that finished the regular season with more than 8 wins.

Franklin's best win on paper is against an 8 win UGA squad. Close your eyes and pretend that that game isn't any different had UGA not had its whole offense sidelined playing at UT.

Now consider this, if UT scheduled like Vandy (you know, not playing Oregon and instead schedules UMASS, or UAB, a WF - teams that totaled 7 wins this season), UT would also be going to a bowl. Pay no attention to the fact that UT's western division games came against Auburn and Bama ( two of the most talented teams in the SEC with a combined 2 losses between them) to Vandy's western division games (9 losses between them, both mid pack talent wise). How about this: 10 of the 23 Vandy victories came against teams with 3 wins or less. Almost half of Vandy's wins during the greatest stretch in their history came against teams who couldn't....win....4....games."
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Thank you for breaking it down.

CBJ beat 3 teams with winning records including one that finished 10-2 in his first year. It's taken Franklin 3 years to get one game above that.

He is a good coach. I'll give him credit for finding ways to win close games against sorry competition. His resume is not the caliber that a progr like Texas is looking for though. Not unless they get turned down by several more high profile coaches first anyway.
 
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#92
qwerty said:
Serious question...how does it feel to root for a team that can max out at 8 wins in a season?

Mad respect...
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How do u know how many wins they max out on? It only took Franklin 2 years to get 9 wins. He won't have a team with only his players until 2015. He's breaking 100 year old school records and signing top 25 recruiting classes. I would say the sky is the limit if things stay the way they're going. I don't mean any disrespect to u or your team but this isn't the 90's anymore. The Vols may never get back to the level they were once at.
 
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immyaxl said:
How do u know how many wins they max out on? It only took Franklin 2 years to get 9 wins. He won't have a team with only his players until 2015. He's breaking 100 year old school records and signing top 25 recruiting classes. I would say the sky is the limit if things stay the way they're going. I don't mean any disrespect to u or your team but this isn't the 90's anymore. The Vols may never get back to the level they were once at.
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You're correct we will never be at the level we once were. We will be better. Has Vandy even had a football team for 100 years? This was Vandys year for winning in the East. Georgia and Florida was plagued with injuries. We are still rebuilding, UK was in the cellar. Of course SC and Mizzou was strong. I would say your program is close to topping out. You guys will never be good enough to contend for an SEC east title. It's just a fact that is easier to deal with if you just except it.
 
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Volswagg1017 said:
Hope, so then no vandy
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We were a bad play away from beating them and our defense held them to their lowest point total of the season. The days of Vandy beating us is over. Vandy will resume its spot in the basement of the east. The natural order of the universe will be restored.
 
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immyaxl said:
How do u know how many wins they max out on? It only took Franklin 2 years to get 9 wins. He won't have a team with only his players until 2015. He's breaking 100 year old school records and signing top 25 recruiting classes. I would say the sky is the limit if things stay the way they're going. I don't mean any disrespect to u or your team but this isn't the 90's anymore. The Vols may never get back to the level they were once at.
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What impact players on Vandy's teams have been "Franklin's guys?" It seems that all of Vandy's star players are Bobby Johnson holdovers.
 
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I wish they would.

Just so he can go in and fall flat on his face. I like the mediocrity at Texas myself.
 
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dreVol said:
What impact players on Vandy's teams have been "Franklin's guys?" It seems that all of Vandy's star players are Bobby Johnson holdovers.
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Azubike, Jelks and Robinette come to mind. Azubike was an SEC player of the week. Jelks a lifelong Vols fan who chose Vandy and made the all SEC freshman team. Robinette a high school state champ from Maryville TN who scored the game winning td against the Vols. Those were just of the top of my head. Vols fans are really ignorant to their competition. I keep up with every thing the Vols are doing as well as any other team Vandy plays.
 
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immyaxl said:
Azubike, Jelks and Robinette come to mind. Azubike was an SEC player of the week. Jelks a lifelong Vols fan who chose Vandy and made the all SEC freshman team. Robinette a high school state champ from Maryville TN who scored the game winning td against the Vols. Those were just of the top of my head. Vols fans are really ignorant to their competition. I keep up with every thing the Vols are doing as well as any other team Vandy plays.
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You've got nothing else for the rape scandal discussion?
 
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