sick of all these vol fans

[chattavol420]

Nothing like a post church spliff

Kinda like a country song that talks about God and drinking... Which is basically every country song on the radio

 

[Spartacavolus]

If cbj is a great coach we will know it in yr 2. All great coaches may huge strides in yr 2. 8 or 9 wins

If he is avg I believe we will see 5 wins and then he is johnny majors 2.0. Will need yrs of great recruiting to overcome him being avg.

I say if he gets 7 wins that's nice progress and really what i hope hart has set for the target. Any less I'm afraid 8 or 9 wins is all we will see from this staff ever.

Blanket and inaccurate statement in your first sentence. First, yr 2 success has too many factors, including the talent level when taking over, for example, league, schedule, etc.
2nd, Saban is top 3 all-time college coaches and won 6, 6 and 7 in his first 3 years at Mich st, so all great coaches don't make great strides in year 2. One of the best, didn't.

 

[janthony81]

Man dude didn't look very good last year! I got to where I would notice his number when the ball was in the air and hold my breath. Most of those ended up being competitions btw

Let me say this, and I am rooting for the kid but so far, when the balls been in the air he's been slow and he's not physical enough at the point of attack, and does not appear to be a SEC caliber starting safety, more of a backup.
He's must step it up this season or risk being replaced in that starting lineup on D, So far he's been the weaklink of the defense. I hope he gets it together this year!

 

[Brave Volunteer]

saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.

128th out of 128 Division schools with returning offensive and defensive linemen in a line of scrimmage conference. Ranked 7th in toughest schedules in the nation for 2014. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what we are facing this year and who we have to face it with. It would be a minor miracle if we managed to finish this season with anything more that 6 or 7 wins.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.

It's all about trends. When we were winning consistently, 2 losses in the regular season was a down year. After several years near the gutter of the SEC, that's where people's expectations are...in the gutter.

That will change once we return to consistent winning. I don't let the the media or the Legion of Low Expectations get me riled up. They just expect more of the same.

I personally think we were a lot closer to being a great team in 2011 and 2012 than many people realize. In 2012 we had a hot offense but the worst defense in our program history. That's because Dooley had no business being the coach here, and 80% of his 2011 staff new it and bailed.

Then, with his seat red hot, he decides to hire a LB coach, who had never been a DC at major program, and switch to a 3-4. Worst possible timing for such a move.

Last year was yet another transitional year. I firmly believe that had Tyler Bray stayed, he would have had a big year last year. We would have beaten UF, UGA and maybe Mizzou. That would have been a pretty good season to build on and we'd have gone to a good bowl game.

So, that brings me to this...sometimes all it takes is one or two impact players to elevate a team to a different level. We have several, this year. That and knowing Dobbs' game will have taken a major step forward, tells me we are in for a break out season.

 

[TNVolunteerGrad]

Get ya opcorn: ready

 

[vollygirl]

If cbj is a great coach we will know it in yr 2. All great coaches may huge strides in yr 2. 8 or 9 wins

If he is avg I believe we will see 5 wins and then he is johnny majors 2.0. Will need yrs of great recruiting to overcome him being avg.

I say if he gets 7 wins that's nice progress and really what i hope hart has set for the target. Any less I'm afraid 8 or 9 wins is all we will see from this staff ever.

 

[Biopsyman]

◾247sports: 4-star (No. 115 overall, No. 6 overall safety, No. 14 prospect in Texas)
◾ESPN: 4-star (No. 12 overall safety, No. 28 prospect in Texas)
◾Rivals: 4-star (No. 86 overall, No. 7 overall safety, No. 11 prospect in Texas)
◾Scout: 4-star (No. 6 overall free safety)

I know one thing? It is time for LaDarrell McNeil produce or sit down!

He may have a position.. Too slow for the secondary and not big enough for LB. The only upper hand he may have is that has experience. He might be this years Brent Brewer.

 

[Other_Guy]

How dare you be happy with 8 wins that's hardly competing for the East. You should expect 10 wins. After alll this is UT.

 

[jkleno]

I agree to an extent. I don't think we should have an expectation of going to the seccg this year but...We should be a better team this year than last. We've been close is recent years. Last year we could have beaten uga and Uf. There's no reason this year we can't improve by a couple of games

Did you watch the UF game?

 

[Pump Guy]

There is what we think should happen, then reality sets in

 

[Biopsyman]

How dare you be happy with 8 wins that's hardly competing for the East. You should expect 10 wins. After alll this is UT.

We haven't been competing in years... we have been getting rolled. That shat is about to change. Need players and many have arrived and more are coming.

 

[chattavol420]

128th out of 128 Division schools with returning offensive and defensive linemen in a line of scrimmage conference. Ranked 7th in toughest schedules in the nation for 2014. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what we are facing this year and who we have to face it with. It would be a minor miracle if we managed to finish this season with anything more that 6 or 7 wins.

Maybe so but we are probably ranked in the top 25 or so based on recruiting talent.

 

[Easttnken]

Big difference between "being happy" with 6-6 and having enough judgment to look at the circumstances of the program and being willing to accept that 6-6 or 7-5 is the likely outcome.

I think you and I see this similarly. I go into every game expecting UT to find a way to win. If they don't, I look at it logically, and believe the coaches and players can correct mistakes, and find a way to win next week.

Where I kind of agree with the OP, is it's time for a few more breaks to go our way...much like they did in'98, or Auburn last year. If I remember, AU was about 4 plays from losing 4 games last year. I'm not saying we win the NC, just that it seems for the last few years it feels like seemingly all the breaks/bounces have gone against us.

With that in mind, you can sort of make a case for the OP. We were a play away from potentially beating UGA. With average QB play, we had a legit shot at beating UF...or at least taking it to the wire. We were a 'block in the back' penalty from beating Vandy.

So, while not defending the OP, if a couple breaks go our way in the games listed above, UT wins 8 games last year, and is invited to a decent bowl in Jones' first year. Looking at it this way, I can understand folks thinking " maybe seeing some nice improvement may not be as far off as some believe".

Just my 2¢
Go Vols!

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

128th out of 128 Division schools with returning offensive and defensive linemen in a line of scrimmage conference. Ranked 7th in toughest schedules in the nation for 2014. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what we are facing this year and who we have to face it with. It would be a minor miracle if we managed to finish this season with anything more that 6 or 7 wins.

Steele has us with the #2 toughest schedule behind notre douche.

 

[JohnnyBall]

Want 9 wins
Expect 7 wins
Not happy with 6 wins
Furious with 5 wins
Start taking resumes at 4

 

[BearCat204]

Can't make this stuff up

 

[sjt18]

saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.

Basically because 6-6 represents progress from where UT has been with a very young roster. It is NOT a matter for me of being satisfied with perpetual 6 to 8 win teams... but rather satisfaction with a step toward competing for championships. Right now... I am prepared to be satisfied so long as there is no backsliding even if progress is nothing more than winning one more.

 

[GrowVol]

saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.

You say you would be "happy" with 8 wins. I would be as well. And many of us Vol fans, such as yourself, are in dire need of more wins. Getting to a little bowl game is not where Vols belong....but given the last too many years, winning enough to get to the Music City bowl is positive. If we don't get to a bowl this year...coach speak/ slogans will fall on deaf ears for myself. We need progress and 6-6, given circumstances, is not a disappointment nor where we belong. Vandy has beat us 2 years in a row. It's not the past anymore... and it sucks.
It's degrees of disappointment. It's a matter of how much does it suck.

 

[sjt18]

Blanket and inaccurate statement in your first sentence. First, yr 2 success has too many factors, including the talent level when taking over, for example, league, schedule, etc.
2nd, Saban is top 3 all-time college coaches and won 6, 6 and 7 in his first 3 years at Mich st, so all great coaches don't make great strides in year 2. One of the best, didn't.

Saban was on the verge of being fired and left MSU knowing he needed a new start. He changed some of his methods and was an immediate success at LSU.

If Jones is the right coach then we will see the kind of progress that coaching and development can impact this fall. A mediocre coach cannot be tolerated at UT in this era of CFB. Recruiting is too critical and the media is too pervasive.

 

[sjt18]

I just don't understand how you can look at this roster objectively and expect 8 wins. We are super young in the best conference in America. Yes we have talent and yes we are still Tennessee but you have to give the rebuild some time. Next year, 8 wins is the floor.

If the coaching has no possibility of getting them to 8 this year then it seems fairly irrational to say 8 is the floor next year.

There IS talented youth on the roster. There ARE a bunch of players specifically recruited to play in Jones' system. They've had two years to develop many of the players who will start this fall. Some of them like Worley, Pig, Lane, et al appear to have made some big strides. The rest... is the staff's ability to get it done on gameday.

 

[VolStrom]

Saban was on the verge of being fired and left MSU knowing he needed a new start. He changed some of his methods and was an immediate success at LSU.

If Jones is the right coach then we will see the kind of progress that coaching and development can impact this fall. A mediocre coach cannot be tolerated at UT in this era of CFB. Recruiting is too critical and the media is too pervasive.

I thought we saw quite a bit of progress last year over the previous years regime. We came within a hair of beating GA and Vandy. A couple of calls or plays went different in those two games and we're sitting at 7-5 instead of 5-7. At least we played hard until the end.

Unlike the year before when Dooley threw in the towel against Mizzou with time left. My fist still clinches when I think of that game.

 

[ncvol17]

Good points and I agree with many. I do feel, however that we should expect a better season that last year. Our qb's returning have some experience and our wr talent is excellent. Plus we should benefit from having the exact same coaching staff in place. It's just my opinion but... I wont call the season successful unless we win 8 games. We haven't been that far off in recent years. Last year was the worst team we've had since I've been a fan and we still have a reasonable chance to beat Florida and Georgia. I think we should expect to win at least one of those two this year and improve on our record.

Just interested - how long have you been a fan?1st year was.....

 

[sjt18]

How can you know this? How could you make this prediction based on the second season? Because all the good coaches have great second seasons?

Not being a smart aleck... just challenging you here.

Can you name a single coach in the last 25 years that started his tenure at a school with two losing seasons and went on to win?

You'll be challenged to find one that didn't improve the record in year 1.

 

[VolAllen]

Because Johnny Majors was "average"? Average coaches do not win National Championships, recruit Heisman winners, and get elected to the College Football Hall of Fame.

If we live in a world where Johnny Majors career was average then there is a metric poop ton of coaching trash walking around college football..

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not and I don't feel like reading through 9 pages but, Johnny Majors didn't do ANY of that. Just fyi.