Simple: vols get in the playoffs IF:

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NighthawkVol said:
I tried to tell y'all that we should’ve been cheering for LSU against Alabama because LSU would lose down the road and take a 3rd loss. LSU lost to Florida, as I said was likely, and now has 4 losses.

Now Alabama only has 2 and will get in over Tennessee in spite of head to head. Because they’re Alabama.

Does it make sense now @Dobbs 4 Heisman ?
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Clearly LSU was never beating Bama, so it’s better that it was a beatdown, makes Ole Miss’s loss to the Tiguh look worse.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Yep. But if LSU had beaten Bama, it wouldn’t have mattered.

I’m not sure why so many people thought we needed Bama to win that game.
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I get your point, but will only say that Bama and Georgia were always going to get the benefit of the doubt if everyone had two losses, while LSU and Ole Miss were automatically out with losses in those games. If the SEC was going to get four in, that would have left UTjr or A&M, Bama, UGa, and us. Now we're going to get bumped by Ole Miss.
 
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yabadabadolnavy said:
To think they leave out a 10-3 bama just because they lost to Texas is hilarious. Our best chance is Florida vs ole miss. Otherwise we are screwed and not making it
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How are you going to leave out 10-2 Tennessee just because they lost to Georgia? Also don’t forget the loss to Vandy.
 
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yabadabadolnavy said:
To think they leave out a 10-3 bama just because they lost to Texas is hilarious. Our best chance is Florida vs ole miss. Otherwise we are screwed and not making it
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Also don’t forget how Georgia was knocked out of the playoffs last season after a perfect season ended in a loss to Alabama. Dropped from #1 to #6
 
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RockyTopRiot said:
How are you going to leave out 10-2 Tennessee just because they lost to Georgia? Also don’t forget the loss to Vandy.
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For some stupid reason, Ole Miss' loss to Kentucky - at home, no less!! - doesn't seem to be hurting them like our loss to a better Arkansas team on the road. We beat Bama, Ole Miss beat Georgia, which should be a wash. Comes down to which of those bad losses is worse, and for whatever reason it appears that the consensus of the ridiculous "committee" is ours.
 
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sami said:
For some stupid reason, Ole Miss' loss to Kentucky - at home, no less!! - doesn't seem to be hurting them like our loss to a better Arkansas team on the road. We beat Bama, Ole Miss beat Georgia, which should be a wash. Comes down to which of those bad losses is worse, and for whatever reason it appears that the consensus of the ridiculous "committee" is ours.
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Even if they think our loss is somehow worse, we are still in if Texas wins out. There is no chance a 3 loss team gets in over us. The CFP is notorious for over-penalizing teams that lose in the conference championship.
 
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Does anyone else feel dirty knowing we have to root for the Gators next weekend. I feel like it is a stench that is going to linger.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
I tried to tell y'all that we should’ve been cheering for LSU against Alabama because LSU would lose down the road and take a 3rd loss. LSU lost to Florida, as I said was likely, and now has 4 losses.

Now Alabama only has 2 and will get in over Tennessee in spite of head to head. Because they’re Alabama.

Does it make sense now @Dobbs 4 Heisman ?
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Because they have a better resume than we do and are playing like a top 5 team, not just because “they’re Alabama.”
 
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SamuraiVol74 said:
Boise State and the CFP selection is going to screw everything up. Just wait for it. Boise State wins their conference, they are in by default.....and will be promptly shown the door when they play anyone in the CFP. BYU was a mirage. Penn State is a mirage. Indiana is a mirage. 4 of the 12 "getting in" are not the caliber of a National Champion. Period.
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And neither are we.
 
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sami said:
I'm not sure they want to send a message of punishing teams that get to a conference title game and rewarding teams they beat out to get there. That would set a terrible precedent and would tarnish those games, which the powers that be desperately want to keep because of the revenue. To me, if you're in this silly playoff before a conference title game, the result should only affect your seeding - it should be treated like a post season game. If not, just eliminate the game itself.
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This.
 
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sami said:
For some stupid reason, Ole Miss' loss to Kentucky - at home, no less!! - doesn't seem to be hurting them like our loss to a better Arkansas team on the road. We beat Bama, Ole Miss beat Georgia, which should be a wash. Comes down to which of those bad losses is worse, and for whatever reason it appears that the consensus of the ridiculous "committee" is ours.
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It’s not just that. We haven’t looked like a top 15 team for the better part of two months.
 
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VolCalls said:
It’s not just that. We haven’t looked like a top 15 team for the better part of two months.
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We say that because we pay close attention to our games only. I see top 10 teams throughout the country struggling with average and even bad teams. Look at Oregon yesterday.
 
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sami said:
This nails it, and is why I hate the playoff system. There shouldn't be automatic bids, and there should be some sort of computer program to determine rankings, not some ridiculous "committee" of people, all with biases and axes to grind.

My problem from the beginning has been making the Power 4 conferences "equal", as if a P4 win or loss is a P4 win or loss. The Big 10 is treated as the SEC's equal despite there only being two legit championship contenders, two pretenders beating up on pathetic schedules, and another 14 teams that are garbage. And yet, that conference will get four teams in unless IU is blown out next weekend, which I'm betting won't happen.

The only way to do a fair playoff system is with computer generated rankings and all 12 spots being 'at large'. Conference championships can be considered as one of the top parameters, but shouldn't be automatic. All it takes is a Colorado or some ACC school winning a title game and getting in over a better team.

Better yet, go back to the 2-team BCS, when a 10-2 top 10 finish wasn't considered a 'failure'.
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ROFL not just no but HELL F****IN NO. Let's not get ridiculous with this, and in case you didn't realize it everyone is going to bitch no matter the system. 10-2 isn't a failure in either system, it's your percepion. I fail to see why 10-2 in the BCS era and a spot in a BCS bowl is somehow better than 10-2 in this system and not making the playoffs. Why because the old system you got a shinier participation trophy?

If you don't reward conference championships then there is literally no reason to have them anymore because they will be meaningless.

Also hilarious to me was the years of "playoffs will make the regular season meaningless"...ROFL....we're looking at 10-2 and on the outside looking in at a 12 team playoff. So 100% wrong, because just like the BCS era your best bet to making the championship....is to win your games. We beat Arkansas, we're not having this conversation.

People are just really really fickle and petty, always wanting to change for change's sake even though the bitching about the BCS was gigantic.
 
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SamuraiVol74 said:
Agreed. In my opinion, there should be zero human involvement in selection. Determine a formula that is fair and makes sense, then let it generate who is in and who is out. Man is inherently flawed and biased. As long as man has input into CFP selections, the formula will be flawed and biased.
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And I have a bridge I want to sell you if you think a "formula that is fair and makes sense" exists. Again, no matter the sytem, formula, whatever, someone will bitch about it.
 
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yabadabadolnavy said:
Florida beats ole miss and Texas beats A&M.

Throw in notre dame losing to usc. That’s just a bonus.

Go vols. Keep your heads up guys
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I think we’re lucky it seems like today everyone is talking about the 5 sec teams. Ole miss, Tennessee, bama , Georgia , Texas are all getting talked up but what’s gonna be crazy is if Texas A&M beats Texas 😂
 
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Christian Lowe said:
The loser of the SECCG is in. It’d be insane to leave them out.
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Georgia thought the same thing last year. I’m not saying it’s fair I’m just saying that’s what the committee has done. If they don’t punish the loser then 2 ACC teams will get in and nobody wants that. The SECCG is part of the body of work. They’ve never said it isn’t
 
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If TN is left out of CFP at 10-2 it will be because of Indiana. Who would have thought that at beginning of year.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
ROFL not just no but HELL F****IN NO. Let's not get ridiculous with this, and in case you didn't realize it everyone is going to bitch no matter the system. 10-2 isn't a failure in either system, it's your percepion. I fail to see why 10-2 in the BCS era and a spot in a BCS bowl is somehow better than 10-2 in this system and not making the playoffs. Why because the old system you got a shinier participation trophy?

If you don't reward conference championships then there is literally no reason to have them anymore because they will be meaningless.

Also hilarious to me was the years of "playoffs will make the regular season meaningless"...ROFL....we're looking at 10-2 and on the outside looking in at a 12 team playoff. So 100% wrong, because just like the BCS era your best bet to making the championship....is to win your games. We beat Arkansas, we're not having this conversation.

People are just really really fickle and petty, always wanting to change for change's sake even though the bitching about the BCS was gigantic.
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Nope, I just hate the obsession with a playoff system that will be badly flawed until they take the asinine "committee" out of it and create a computer system so there is no bias.

I loved the conference championship games, which is another reason I hate this system! Now you have fans actually not wanting to play in the SECCG because a 3rd loss might mean missing the precious playoff. The conference championship used to mean something, now its importance is getting you a "bye".

If they ever replace the committee with an objective system, my opinion of the playoff will change, not that it matters as its only an opinion. They won't change it though because they love the controversy keeping CFB in the headlines 24-7-265.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
Georgia thought the same thing last year. I’m not saying it’s fair I’m just saying that’s what the committee has done. If they don’t punish the loser then 2 ACC teams will get in and nobody wants that. The SECCG is part of the body of work. They’ve never said it isn’t
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That was 4 teams. This is 12. They won’t punish a team for losing a conference championship game. As of now I think UGA, Ole Miss, Texas and Alabama are in. That’s it.
 
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