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#276
Personnally what exactly is Your coach title ? WHAT Team do YOU Coach for?



Edit : This is YOUR WaterLOO speak up or STFU . What is your COACHING JOB ?
 
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SJT:
I see you're still on about bad coaching! The season is over. No amount of butching about it will change it. I'll give you those 6-10 players that are drafted into the NFL. How many of them are still there in year 2? How about Year 5? What about year 10? How many play in every game of the season for the next 5-10 years? Just cause you get drafted doesn't mean you have enough talent and just cause you go undrafted doesn't mean you don't have any talent. It comes down to good work habits, skill, mentality, ability, fitting into a system or role for the coach and a whole host of other things as well as coaching. It's not just 1 thing!
 
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#278
You better be the best Coach that has never been to a D1 SChool , Cause , we get it you are very smart coach ,and yes , This is gonna follow you around .
 
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3rd_and_Jancek said:
The people that worship coaches will be here in a minute to call that NFL Draft insider a moron.
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There sure are a lot of people here who complain about the coaches, but I don't think I have seen anyone offer any reasonable solutions. I think, given time, Jones will have us competitive again, but the fact is I don't know how well they will do, and neither do you, and it may take 3 to 4 years before we start to get a good picture. If we keep changing coaches every year or two, it will never get better.
 
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beachbums624 said:
because you are pretty much not fooling anyone . Your whole schtick is/has been available in every thread and post you have made .
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Not trying to fool anyone. Stop lying.

SO I assume you are either a Grudite or a VERY small timer . Take it as you wish .
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Did you mean Grudenite? I wasn't. I didn't really get caught up in that hype and have made very few comments about it.

I personally have to over ride the whole IGNORE feature just to read your Opinions. You only got on the gnore list after you started claiming every bad play was someone elses fault . and you MAGICALLY know who's fault it was .
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Do you have issues with discerning reality from fantasy? Maybe you do have some reading comprehension issues... you sure seem to have some issues clearly expressing yourself. Where did I claim that every bad play was someone else's fault... and what in the world do you even mean by that?
 
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sjt18 said:
Not trying to fool anyone. Stop lying.

Did you mean Grudenite? I wasn't. I didn't really get caught up in that hype and have made very few comments about it.



Do you have issues with discerning reality from fantasy? Maybe you do have some reading comprehension issues... you sure seem to have some issues clearly expressing yourself. Where did I claim that every bad play was someone else's fault... and what in the world do you even mean by that?
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So which EXACTLY d1 TEAM do you coach again ?
 
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sjt18 said:
Very good.

How did you feel about the Vandy loss or the four losses by 28 or more points (something not done at UT for at least 50 years and maybe never before)? How did you feel about the near miss vs USA?
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The Vandy loss was UT's worst game this year--coaches, players, all of it. The defense played more than well enough to win. The special teams were subpar, but not completely bad.

The offense was severely lacking. The o-line was inconsistent, Dobbs had his worst game, and the receivers who weren't hurt were no-shows. Bajakian called a scared game after his fourth string, true freshman QB threw his second pick. When the offense did get their crap together, their most "experienced" true sophomore wide receiver threw a block-in-the-back wet blanket on a nice TD run.

Had UT had their first or maybe even second or third string QB, it's a win. Heck if North had played more, it might have been a win. Smells like an excuse, but it sure seems true.

Close wins to worse teams don't bother me all that much (USA). Happens often in college football.

The blowout losses are getting old. They bother me.

I'm not ignoring the bad, but I do try to temper it with the good.
 
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TVOL71 said:
There sure are a lot of people here who complain about the coaches, but I don't think I have seen anyone offer any reasonable solutions.
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Well, he's getting part of the solution. He appears to be recruiting very, very well. The other part is to coach better. Saying someone failed to do something well is not the same as saying they can't.

I have argued that this season was not coached well. I still hope that it is not a real indicator of their ability. I hope they improve and with a year of developing the team will show their true colors next fall.

But I am not going to pretend that everything was fine and dandy with the way they coached this fall. It wasn't.

I think, given time, Jones will have us competitive again, but the fact is I don't know how well they will do, and neither do you, and it may take 3 to 4 years before we start to get a good picture. If we keep changing coaches every year or two, it will never get better.
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I have not seen anyone advocate a HC change after year two. I don't think you can do that without scaring off potential replacements. OTOH, I don't think you can keep a coach who is not making good progress after year 3 either without harming recruiting and thus the chances that a potential replacement might succeed.

I HOPE Jones will be great at UT. I hope UT will have to worry about raising $10 million a year to keep him in a few years. But the coaching this year leaves me with doubts. He can still win me over and pretty easily... but I'm not just giving my trust anymore.
 
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MrBiggles said:
SJT:
I see you're still on about bad coaching! The season is over. No amount of butching about it will change it. I'll give you those 6-10 players that are drafted into the NFL. How many of them are still there in year 2? How about Year 5? What about year 10? How many play in every game of the season for the next 5-10 years? Just cause you get drafted doesn't mean you have enough talent and just cause you go undrafted doesn't mean you don't have any talent. It comes down to good work habits, skill, mentality, ability, fitting into a system or role for the coach and a whole host of other things as well as coaching. It's not just 1 thing!
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I have never said it was all bad coaching... I have been answering those who deny that coaching was a factor at all... who excuse the coaches of all responsibility.
 
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beachbums624 said:
So which EXACTLY d1 TEAM do you coach again ?
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Which one do you coach for?

I'm not an automotive engineer either... yet I know a bit about what makes one work... and can sure tell when one is working well and being driven well.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Did you know that the last 6 weeks of Dooley's tenure that the team didn't see the weight room?
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And yet the UT admin would have kept CDD as HC if he had eked out one more win in 2012?

Either they turned a blind eye to issues like the above (and lack of recruiting, and others) or, equally damning, were totally asleep at the switch.

It is no wonder that UT has not sniffed an SECC in 15 years, or a winning season in 5 years. And the root cause obviously has not been the head coach.
 
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WriterVol said:
I'm fine with you holding that opinion, but you sure seem to be going after those that don't with some fire in your tone. It just seems different than what I remembered.
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Yeah... maybe. A little tired the namecalling and lies. That draws some HE rounds.

As for positives, while I can't claim to have seen even a majority of your posts, I sure haven't seen anything from you in that direction lately.
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I'll try to briefly summarize.

-I thought the UGA gameplan and execution were very good. USCe as well.

- Neal played the best he has as a Vol. He has a chance to be drafted when he was nowhere close before this year. I think Gillispie is a very, very good coach and am glad he is there.

- Recruiting IMO is the best since at least the peak of Fulmer's years and maybe even beyond that. He needs to win to keep it going... but he's doing a terrific job right now. I believe he's gone nose to nose with almost every SEC coach for players at this point and has held his own if not out done them. He is right now Saban's equal at recruiting IMO. That's no small matter. Now he just has to learn to match him on the field.

- He has done a great job with relationships. He's pulled in support, repaired bridges, and gotten many important people on board with him. Again, he still has to coach better but these are all HUGE things.

- I have said several times (and 411 should back me up on this) that I think Bajakian and Jones will bring the O around. My primary concern is with the DC.

- Jones did a great job with Palardy's head. The only things comparable I can remember are Cut's rebuilding of Ainge and Kiffin's work with Crompton.

Personally, I'd call this season a mixed bag, but I also see more to feel hopeful for than either of the past two head coaches. Again, that's just my opinion.
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I felt good after USCe but it was important to me for him to better Dooley's first year on the field. If he had matched it you might have been able to talk me into believing the schedule was a little harder making his effort superior.

None of my criticisms mean I've written him off. I haven't. They have simply left me doubting rather than being a "positive" believer. It is a choice... but I'm not giving my trust for free anymore. I want to see some coaching to earn it.
 
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tm3 said:
And yet the UT admin would have kept CDD as HC if he had eked out one more win in 2012?

Either they turned a blind eye to issues like the above (and lack of recruiting, and others) or, equally damning, were totally asleep at the switch.

It is no wonder that UT has not sniffed an SECC in 15 years, or a winning season in 5 years. And the root cause obviously has not been the head coach.
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I don't think they would have retained him. I think the decision was made after MSU game.. would have had to win out in November to be kept. IMO
 
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sjt18 said:
So you are resigned to being second tier indefinitely... if that?

This is a sincere... not argumentative question.
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no. My hope is that Butch keeps recruiting like he has this year and gets this turned around and we are competitive again. But I recognize he might not and then we start over again.

What did I say that made you think that? curious question because I'm not sure what led you to that.
 
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Not A one BUBBA , I do see YOU telling D1 Coaches how to be Coaches though . May I say . LMAO never mind . Life ism about reality . Your life will find much of it ,
 
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LWSVOL said:
no. My hope is that Butch keeps recruiting like he has this year and gets this turned around and we are competitive again. But I recognize he might not and then we start over again.

What did I say that made you think that? curious question because I'm not sure what led you to that.
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The comment about being unwilling to compete for elite coaches mostly.

I don't personally think it is necessary to "buy" an elite coach to hire one. No one knew Saban was elite when he escaped Michigan State to LSU. Carroll was a good but not great NFL coach before going to USC.
 
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beachbums624 said:
Not A one BUBBA , I do see YOU telling D1 Coaches how to be Coaches though . May I say . LMAO never mind . Life ism about reality . Your life will find much of it ,
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Honest question. Is English your first language? I've been studying Spanish for a few months now and am fairly sure my Spanish is more understandable than your English.
 
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