Slow playing recruits

#76
#76
g8terh8ter_eric said:
As far as James goes, I got to meet a few people this past year, and James would have went to Bama because of his coaches dislike for Kiffin, IF Kiffin hadn't left. I can't promise you that's a fact. James' parents hated Kiffin too.
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And not to be mean, but you're some random guy on the internet. I think you're telling the truth, but do I really have any reason to believe your word over the guys Lord Vader was discussing with Shon Coleman and a few others?
 
#77
#77
kptvol said:
You have no freaking clue if we'd have gotten Rogers. If Rogers didn't like Kiffin, why the sudden spike in interest at the end of recruiting season? That happened before Kiffin left and continued into Dooley's reign.
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No, that happened with Nance committing here WAY after Kiffin was gone, and Baggett and Dooley going to visit Rogers and Nance after Nance committed. Kiffin would have never taken Nash to get Da'Rick, never would have happened. It was a package deal, and that's pretty obvious.
 
#79
#79
g8terh8ter_eric said:
No, that happened with Nance committing here WAY after Kiffin was gone, and Baggett and Dooley going to visit Rogers and Nance after Nance committed. Kiffin would have never taken Nash to get Da'Rick, never would have happened. It was a package deal, and that's pretty obvious.
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untrue. You do realize that it was Kiffin that offered Nance, correct? CLK sent his best horse into the Nance home. And DaRick can say whatever he wants publicly about not being interested in UT. Dude scheduled an official with Orgeron and claims he didn't have interest? yea, ok.

and the James Stone argument is moot point. we would have signed at least 2, and possibly 3 OL better than him. Green and Cullen for sure.
 
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#80
#80
Can the Kiffinites and the DooleyDoRites have a battle to death and get this over with? Maybe if the people that think Dooley is doomed to fail and Kiffin is a recruiting god, and the blind homers that have convinced themselves that Dooley is General Neyland reborn will kill each other off we can stop having the exact same damn argument in every friggin thread on this board.
 
#81
#81
Demon_Vol said:
Can the Kiffinites and the DooleyDoRites have a battle to death and get this over with? Maybe if the people that think Dooley is doomed to fail and Kiffin is a recruiting god, and the blind homers that have convinced themselves that Dooley is General Neyland reborn will kill each other off we can stop having the exact same damn argument in every friggin thread on this board.
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It does seem to be a recurring theme doesn't it??
 
#82
#82
This seems similar to when Auburn hired Chizik with all the uncertainty and we seen how they hauled in a great class. We just need to give Dooley time.




Sorry for double posts. Computer is acting really slow.
 
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#85
#85
codyg10 said:
I think I would rather go to a BCS bowl every year than go to the Peach Bowl or the Outback Bowl. Kiffin wasnt trying to turn us into USC hes was trying to make us the USC of the SEC which means he was going to try to make us dominate the SEC year after year and make it to where no1 could compete with us.
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Why didn't you move to USC with Kiffin and Co. I've never seen a more prominent ass kisser. Hurry out to California now...

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#86
#86
Lord Vader said:
untrue. You do realize that it was Kiffin that offered Nance, correct? CLK sent his best horse into the Nance home. And DaRick can say whatever he wants publicly about not being interested in UT. Dude scheduled an official with Orgeron and claims he didn't have interest? yea, ok.

and the James Stone argument is moot point. we would have signed at least 2, and possibly 3 OL better than him. Green and Cullen for sure.
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man this stuf is FN depressing me. :sad:
 
#87
#87
Demon_Vol said:
Can the Kiffinites and the DooleyDoRites have a battle to death and get this over with? Maybe if the people that think Dooley is doomed to fail and Kiffin is a recruiting god, and the blind homers that have convinced themselves that Dooley is General Neyland reborn will kill each other off we can stop having the exact same damn argument in every friggin thread on this board.
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great post Demon. great post..
 
#89
#89
Lord Vader said:
untrue. You do realize that it was Kiffin that offered Nance, correct? CLK sent his best horse into the Nance home. And DaRick can say whatever he wants publicly about not being interested in UT. Dude scheduled an official with Orgeron and claims he didn't have interest? yea, ok.

and the James Stone argument is moot point. we would have signed at least 2, and possibly 3 OL better than him. Green and Cullen for sure.
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Green was never a certainty, and Cullen wasn't going to end up here because of grades.

Da'Rick didn't like Kiffin, and never would have ended up here. Kiffin left, took Ambles with him, and that opened the door to take Nash and Rogers as a package deal. That's how it worked out, and honestly, it was for the best.
 
#91
#91
codyg10 said:
Ok put it this way if your a high school kid and your being recruited who is going to appeal to you more Lane Kiffin or Derek Dooley? I think that is a no brainer Kiffin by far Kiffin made a name for him self known Dooley hasnt I bet that at least 50% of college football fans dont know who Derek Dooley is.
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Whether or not that is accurate, there's nothing that any of us can do about it. Kiffin's gone. He quit. We're not going to kidnap him from Glendale and chain him to the rock on campus. Other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. To use a draft day analogy, Dooley was the best guy left on the board who was willing to take the job. Dooley will be here for 3-5 years minimum no matter how bad he may be. If you want to throw stones at the guy based on poor performance at UTK once he establishes a track record of some sort then I will completely understand your POV whether I agree or not. I'm not sure what else can be said about this until we see the final record for the 2010 season and who actually signs in 2011.
 
#93
#93
Honestly, I don't care which side anyone is on. I happen to think that we will be good under Dooley and Co., but it doesn't matter. He and his staff have been here all of 3 months and haven't had a chance to do anything anyway. They pulled together a solid class (holding on to some of Kiffins...which is no small task, and getting a few bigs of their own) in 3 WEEKS. As of now, that is literally the only thing we have to judge him by. If you hate him and are waiting for him to fail, at least give him time to fail before getting your panties in a twist.

I've never seen so much overanalysis of NOTHING in my life. I reiterate: better find a good book or there are going to be a lot of sleepless nights this summer. You might as well argue over the final score of next year's UT-Memphis football game. That hasn't happened yet either.
 
#94
#94
Do you uys think Cody is serious with all his BS or is he just trying to get a reaction from VN? I say the latter--nobody is that dumb.
 
#96
#96
Lord Vader said:
Kiffin was the one who offered Nance and started pursuing him and DaRick hard.
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Dooley started going after nance and Rogers. Kiff was all over M. Ambles and wasnt going after Da Freak or J. Hunter, That was all DOOLEY and staff.. :rock:
 
#97
#97
volsof09 said:
I agree CDD knows what he is doing and we will be just fine.
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Isn't that a lot of blind faith in someone who has not yet proven himself at this level?... I hope he does and I am trying to have faith but come on...
 
#98
#98
Coastypop said:
Isn't that a lot of blind faith in someone who has not yet proven himself at this level?... I hope he does and I am trying to have faith but come on...
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How about. . . let's give CDD the benefit of the doubt and assume he knows what he's doing unless we get a good reason to think otherwise.
 
#99
#99
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Green was never a certainty, and Cullen wasn't going to end up here because of grades.

Da'Rick didn't like Kiffin, and never would have ended up here. Kiffin left, took Ambles with him, and that opened the door to take Nash and Rogers as a package deal. That's how it worked out, and honestly, it was for the best.
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Green was as much of a lock as you can get and you are just flat making up stuff on Cullen. He was taking the classes and would have been here.

DaRick can say whatever he wants publicly. Kiffin wanted Nance and was the one to offer him. They both set up a visit to UT for 2 weeks later.
 
#100
#100
Rasputin_Vol said:
Goodness... I gotta vent for a minute.

But it just appears that Auburn is throwing out offers to anybody that has a pulse. I don't have the numbers in front of me so help me out (I don't have a Scout or Rivals subscription to compare our number of offers vs Auburn), does Auburn have that many more offers floating around or is it just my imagination? And why does it seem like that with the last two staffs, it seems as though we are slow playing guys or waiting so long to extend offers to guys at positions of need?

Just a little frustrated with no news coming out so far...
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Every coach slow plays recruits. Kiffin's method was to offer but refuse to take the commitment. Dooley appears to only offer kids whose commitment he'll accept. I'm not sure at the end of the day there's alot of difference.
 
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