So Legendary Coach Pat Summit was forced out...

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zjcvols said:
In the article it says that Summitt and Hart had a second meeting and cleared it up. That's how I took it.
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No, it says that Hart told her she misinterpreted. Nowhere in her statement does it say that she agreed with Hart's assessment of their conversation.
 
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Lexvol said:
Constructive??

Unfortunately, we have a legend with dementia it is sad...but why start calling for an AD's head when she "feels" forced out?

What is constructive about that?
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Ageed.

Pat has been extremely well treated. There should be no complaints on her end.

The truth might hurt, but she was at the end of her road
 
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ladyvols1 said:
But the second meeting didn't take place until after the NCAA tourny and he also lied to the press about what he had told Coach Summitt about retiring the Lady Vols logo. I don't believe him at all.
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She was done - we all know this - no reason to take it out on Hart. People are just looking for a scapegoat here when its the disease and her health that are the issues.
 
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ladyvols1 said:
Because he has proven to be as dishonest as the past AD. He has lied over and over and that should not be someone who is heading the UT AD. Most of understood that Pat would probably not be back. It should have been her decision and then he lied over and over about what his plans were and what his statements were. It isn't about the fact that Pat had to step down, I believe she would have come to that decision. It is about Hart's dishonesty in how he is riding rough shod over the Women's program. And might I add letting people go from the only programs that have never had any NCAA sanctions and have always run a program with integrity; unlike the men's side of the dept.
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Women's sports have always and will always take a backseat to men's - you just have to accept it - its not always going to be fair.. its about the money.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
She was done - we all know this - no reason to take it out on Hart. People are just looking for a scapegoat here when its the disease and her health that are the issues.
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Harsh but completely true.

By the way, the university has treated Pat as well any coach in NCAA history. I love Pat, she's an incredible representative of the university, but she needed to leave.
 
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GAVol said:
There's not a person alive that should true of.
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Maybe Hart was thinking about Pat's health? Leading a women's college basketball program isn't exactly easy on the mind.
 
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She. Could. Not. Come. Back. Full stop.

She wasn't coaching anymore. It's heartbreaking, but it's true. Her coaching career was already over.

No idea how this played out, but if Dave Hart had to step in and make sure that the right thing happened, then good for him. The right thing for both UT and Pat was for her to step down.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
She. Could. Not. Come. Back. Full stop.

She wasn't coaching anymore. It's heartbreaking, but it's true. Her coaching career was already over.

No idea how this played out, but if Dave Hart had to step in and make sure that the right thing happened, then good for him. The right thing for both UT and Pat was for her to step down.
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It's quite simple.

One of the saddest things I have ever seen was watching her on the sidelines and wondering "Does she know where she is"?

You all want that to be her legacy?
 
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If this is True I will be one pissed SOB! After all Pat Summitt has done for our beloved university and this outsider threatens her position. To me that's BS! Pat has enough friends and family that she trusts that would have probably told her to step down, but to be threatened like that (if true) is absurd! I know myself and thousands and thousands of people will be calling for his head!!!
 
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Anybody who's spent any time around family members with dementia knows how one of the most depressing things about their condition is how it always seems to be accompanied by paranoia. The way that they always feel that everyone is conspiring against them, betraying them, keeping things from them.

No idea if that's a part of what's going on here, how Summitt apparently "misunderstood" what Hart had said (according to the last point in her affidavit), etc. The whole situation is awful. But it's entirely possible that she felt far more pushed out than she actually was.

Still. She had to be pushed if she wasn't going to go. She wasn't there anymore.
 
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Sounds to me like Hart came in to do the necessary cleaning up of a women's department that was operating beyond their means and cut the fat from the administration point of view, leaving people like Debbie Reynolds out in the cold when she couldn't accept the change. Summitt was not in a position to continue coaching, so he made another decision as her boss.

Sorry, tough. He made the right calls and the department is better for it.
 
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MockingVol said:
Pat said it seemed like she was being forced out but she didnt say in what words. I would guess that Hart discussed with her what was in her, the university's, and the athletes' best interest.

Summit is a legend, but it was the time for her to step down. It would have been terrible for this to have unfolded into a debacle
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Good post! The folks who are knee jerking look like fools.
 
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volfanecs said:
It makes a huge difference. You do not treat Pat this way...never.
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If this suit or info was brought forward by Coach, I would agree with you.

NOT Jennings. She is using Coach to make a point about her firing.... Jennings is wrong and sick on this process.
 
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