So which team/teams get left out of the playoffs?

[JoeMiltonsAgent]

That is the wild thing. The CFP blew up their model and they didn't even get that right lol

Near as I can tell, their model seemed to be "Get Bama in no matter what as long as they won yesterday".

Now they have their blue blood matchup of MI and Bama.

And how fair is it to Texas if it comes down to them and Bama in the final game? Texas has to beat Bama on the road and a neutral site to win the title over Saint Nick now.

 

[sami]

Sure it is. But it’s all subjective. So adding more teams is the only way to make it more acceptable. I don’t think it’s ever going to be perfect as along as
money drives the decisions but something has to change.

You suggested that with 12 teams the problem will be solved and the system would be 'fair'. I'm saying that it will be just as bad, maybe worse because you'll have more schools who will think they have a case. 4 teams or 12 teams, there is still a boatload of money at stake for being in the playoff, and the screaming will be just as loud. As long as it's subjective, the system will always be flawed and rife with politics and bias.

 

[barknoxbrawler]

You suggested that with 12 teams the problem will be solved and the system would be 'fair'. I'm saying that it will be just as bad, maybe worse because you'll have more schools who will think they have a case. 4 teams or 12 teams, there is still a boatload of money at stake for being in the playoff, and the screaming will be just as loud. As long as it's subjective, the system will always be flawed and rife with politics and bias.

Nope. Acceptable and fair(er). It will never be perfect .

 

[AthensVol2007]

And......? You think Clemson over SC is impressive? Tennessee took it to Virginia. So?

And FSU took it to LSU and Miami took it to AM (our best win).

 

[molsen81]

This was an easy selection. Conference champions was the qualifier and then it went by the best conference championship performances. FSU can complain all they want but they would have been destroyed in a CFP semifinal.

 

[just bob]

And FSU took it to LSU and Miami took it to AM (our best win).

WITH Jordan Travis. He's out for the season. Their offense is hot garbage without him. FSU is not a top 4 team right now.

 

[rickyyrs]

who gets left out may affect those teams future out of conference scheduling....

Alabama AD Greg Byrne sends message to College Football Playoff committee on nonconference scheduling

Alabama athletic director Greg Byrne had an interesting take on how the nonconference schedule affects its College Football Playoff chances.

www.on3.com

If both teams win, there’s a possibility that Alabama could still end up getting left out despite its SEC title victory. Byrne explained Saturday that could deter the Crimson Tide from scheduling nonconference Power 5 opponents in the future.

“If we would have played a Group of Five game instead it Texas, there’d be no debate right now,” Bryne said according to Nick Kelly of the Tuscaloosa News."

Bama was number 8 in the poll before Saturday's game against Georgia. So they gonna leap over those teams to top 4. Sounds kinda fishy to me.

 

[just bob]

This was an easy selection. Conference champions was the qualifier and then it went by the best conference championship performances. FSU can complain all they want but they would have been destroyed in a CFP semifinal.

Yep. A lot of people don't understand that they were out regardless. If UGA had won then they still would have put Texas over FSU.

 

[AthensVol2007]

FSU AD’s statement:

"The consequences of giving in to a narrative of the moment are destructive, far reaching, and permanent. Not just for Florida State, but college football as a whole."

"The argument of whether a team is the 'most deserving OR best' is a false equivalence. It renders the season up to yesterday irrelevant and significantly damages the legitimacy of the College Football Playoff. The 2023 Florida State Seminoles are the epitome of a total TEAM. To eliminate them from a chance to compete for a national championship is an unwarranted injustice that shows complete disregard and disrespect for their performance and accomplishments. It is unforgiveable."

"The fact that this team has continued to close out victories in dominant fashion facing our current quarterback situation should have ENHANCED our case to get a playoff berth EARNED on the field. Instead, the committee decided to elevate themselves and 'make history' today by departing from what makes this sport great by excluding an undefeated Power 5 conference champion for the first time since the advent of the BCS/CFP era that began 25 years ago. This ridiculous decision is a departure from the competitive expectations that have stood the test of time in college football.
Wins matter. Losses matter. Those that compete in the arena know this. Those on the committee who also competed in the sport and should have known this have forgotten it. Today, they changed the way success is assessed in college football, from a tangible metric - winning on the field - to an intangible, subjective one. Evidently, predicting the future matters more."

"For many of us, today's decision by the committee has forever damaged the credibility of the institution that is the College Football Playoff. And, saddest of all, it was self-inflicted. They chose predictive competitiveness over proven performance; subjectivity over fact. They have become a committee of prognosticators. They have abandoned their responsibility by discarding their purpose – to evaluate performance on the field."

"Our players, coaches, and fans - as well as all those who love this sport - deserve better. The committee failed college football today."

Bolded is so true.

 

[Switch 625]

Are we pulling for Washington to win it all? I despise the other 3 teams.

 

[TrueOrange]

Which ranking Georgia below Florida State looks odd. Why use one formula for Bama and Florida State and another for Florida State and Georgia? Seems like if you (CFP) honestly believe FSU is a different team, you use same formula for the rankings

Oddly enough, the order of those two has almost no effect on the bowls that follow this year: whether FSU is 5 and UGA 6 or UGA 5 and FSU is 6, you still get the same matchup of the two teams playing in this year’s Orange Bowl.

(I presume the winning the conference championship kept FSU over UGA though, if I were to venture a guess.)

 

[Volhoops]

Texas or Alabama. Either way the SEC still would look strong.

 

[volwindy]

Are we pulling for Washington to win it all? I despise the other 3 teams.

Yes

 

[Volhoops]

WITH Jordan Travis. He's out for the season. Their offense is hot garbage without him. FSU is not a top 4 team right now.

It's like people forget the FSU was nothing until Jordan Travis started playing well.

 

[JMSqb11]

Oddly enough, the order of those two has almost no effect on the bowls that follow this year: whether FSU is 5 and UGA 6 or UGA 5 and FSU is 6, you still get the same matchup of the two teams playing in this year’s Orange Bowl.

(I presume the winning the conference championship kept FSU over UGA though, if I were to venture a guess.)

Well if you go down the list of 13-0 FSU vs 12-1 Texas for #3, decide on Texas, and then 13-0 FSU vs 12-1 Bama for #4, and decide on Bama, you have to keep going down the rankings... The CFP doesn't stop ranking teams today outside the top 6.... You can't use one formula to disqualify FSU out of the Top 4 and then just say F it for the rest of the rankings... That sir or madam shows Bias and partiality.

 

[TrueOrange]

Show the teams that played. I know one includes Vandy vs. Wake.

ACC vs SEC matchups in 2023:

Tennessee vs UVA
Kentucky vs Louisville
Florida State vs Florida
Florida State vs LSU
Clemson vs South Carolina
Wake Forest vs Vanderbilt
North Carolina vs South Carolina
Ole Miss vs Georgia Tech
Miami vs Texas A&M
Georgia vs Georgia Tech

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

They beat Boston College by 2. They needed multiple boneheaded plays by Clemson to win. Theyre not without flaws.

Never said that. Wins and losses are supposed to matter. Apparently the committee thinks losses don't matter.

 

[tennesseeduke]

With their defense, I think it’s closer than many give them credit for. Your point though is likely true, but still, it’s insanity that they didn’t let them in given the committees past precedent on teams they’ve selected and teams they’ve omitted.

It’s a different committee each year. These are 13 people that are selected to pick 4 teams. They pick them based on a lot of factors yet we as individuals turn around and tell them they are wrong. Makes all the sense in the world.

 

[JMSqb11]

Never said that. Wins and losses are supposed to matter. Apparently the committee thinks losses don't matter.

In all fairness, the CFP said Bama losses didn't matter last year either with us being behind Bama in final rankings

 

[tennesseeduke]

Never said that. Wins and losses are supposed to matter. Apparently the committee thinks losses don't matter.

And they were behind North Alabama 14-0 when Travis got hurt.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Whether the SEC is better or not (I'd agree that it is better from top to bottom), the fact remains that on the field the SEC didn't get it done against other Power 5 conferences this season. Reality trumps perception in this case.

It doesn't in reality. Can you say without laughing very hard FSU can beat UGA or Bama.
I certainly can not. I watched the entire game yesterday and the one thing that stood out to me was that BOTH of the teams are on a completely different level than everyone else. Yes you can possibly make a case for Texas beating Bama the 2nd game of the year. However much I hate them it won't happen twice.

 

[DuckInAPen]

FSU AD’s statement:

"The consequences of giving in to a narrative of the moment are destructive, far reaching, and permanent. Not just for Florida State, but college football as a whole."

"The argument of whether a team is the 'most deserving OR best' is a false equivalence. It renders the season up to yesterday irrelevant and significantly damages the legitimacy of the College Football Playoff. The 2023 Florida State Seminoles are the epitome of a total TEAM. To eliminate them from a chance to compete for a national championship is an unwarranted injustice that shows complete disregard and disrespect for their performance and accomplishments. It is unforgiveable."

"The fact that this team has continued to close out victories in dominant fashion facing our current quarterback situation should have ENHANCED our case to get a playoff berth EARNED on the field. Instead, the committee decided to elevate themselves and 'make history' today by departing from what makes this sport great by excluding an undefeated Power 5 conference champion for the first time since the advent of the BCS/CFP era that began 25 years ago. This ridiculous decision is a departure from the competitive expectations that have stood the test of time in college football.
Wins matter. Losses matter. Those that compete in the arena know this. Those on the committee who also competed in the sport and should have known this have forgotten it. Today, they changed the way success is assessed in college football, from a tangible metric - winning on the field - to an intangible, subjective one. Evidently, predicting the future matters more."

"For many of us, today's decision by the committee has forever damaged the credibility of the institution that is the College Football Playoff. And, saddest of all, it was self-inflicted. They chose predictive competitiveness over proven performance; subjectivity over fact. They have become a committee of prognosticators. They have abandoned their responsibility by discarding their purpose – to evaluate performance on the field."

"Our players, coaches, and fans - as well as all those who love this sport - deserve better. The committee failed college football today."

Bolded is so true.

Great statement. He did, though, miss undefeated 2004 Auburn being left out of the BCS championship (which doesn't materially weaken his argument).

 

[DooleyOrangePants]

It’s a different committee each year. These are 13 people that are selected to pick 4 teams. They pick them based on a lot of factors yet we as individuals turn around and tell them they are wrong. Makes all the sense in the world.

Yet they always protect and make sure the chosen ones get what they want. I’m not saying that there aren’t arguments to be made on all sides of this, but I just think it’s insane that a team in a P5 can do everything they are asked and more and still get pushed out due to an injury to ONE player. That’s all they are basing this on and to me that’s just wrong.

If we had been in the same position, mattresses would be burning on Cumberland and there would be a march to burn down the CFP.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Never said that. Wins and losses are supposed to matter. Apparently the committee thinks losses don't matter.

Texas and Bama both have the best wins in college football this season. They have a better strength of schedule and FSU lost its better player and have looked pedestrian the past 2 weekends against 2 mediocre teams. Don’t care what anyone says, Louisville is mediocre. FSU’s best win is LSU on Labor Day weekend, then a floundering Clemson team in OT and the ACC runner up Louisville team that lost to a .500 UK team. The ceiling is higher for Texas and Bama and if FSU played in the SEC or even the Big 12 this wouldn’t even be a discussion today. I think that’s what’s being calculated here.

 

[JMSqb11]

Texas and Bama both have the best wins in college football this season. They have a better strength of schedule and FSU lost its better player and have looked pedestrian the past 2 weekends against 2 mediocre teams. Don’t care what anyone says, Louisville is mediocre. FSU’s best win is LSU on Labor Day weekend, then a floundering Clemson team in OT and the ACC runner up Louisville team that lost to a .500 UK team. The ceiling is higher for Texas and Bama and if FSU played in the SEC or even the Big 12 this wouldn’t even be a discussion today. I think that’s what’s being calculated here.

If you truly believe this, you have to question why the CFP had FSU ranked in the Top 4 the last two weeks without Travis.....