EastTNVol6240
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FSU will be lucky to score in a bowl game if they get a top opponent unless they get a pick 6 or a fluke kick return. They might score against Oregon where they don't play defense.Their defense can still hold down ANYONE. Give a backup QB a months worth of reps and see what he can do. If FSU can score 24, they can beat anyone because of their defense.
That's a fair point and good question. Unfortunately, I think you're kind of forced to do just that, fairly or unfairly, if you are asking yourself if they are truly, with a backup QB one of the 4 best teams in America.What we saw with him getting thrust into a night start at the Swamp with 3-4 days worth of prep? That’s the only and final arbiter of how he’d play given more opportunities?
Exactly. They change their criteria almost yearly according to the results they want. You cannot use the “best four in” argument if you look at other years. Besides TCU, you have to go no further than 2021 when Cincinnati was picked. Were they one of the “best four”? Of course not. Thankfully most of this goes away with the expanded playoff.It’s strange that a lot of you, claim all year, how the SEC is the toughest conference in all of football. Then when the SEC Champion gets a spot in the playoffs, it’s SEC bias. I hate Bama as much as anyone but, if the goal is to put the best teams in those “4” spots, I think the committee got it right. However, I don’t think that has always been the committee’s goal (see last year with TCU).
Keep talking out of your ass. Oregon gave up 17 PPG their defense was top 12 in the country. Your basing FSU’s future off last nights performance with their 3rd string QB he won’t be playing in their bowl game, the #2 will be back.FSU will be lucky to score in a bowl game if they get a top opponent unless they get a pick 6 or a fluke kick return. They might score against Oregon where they don't play defense.
I hate FSU ( any Florida team for that matter )too so I'm not going to put up much of a defense for them. Their schedule was a joke compared to GA and Bama.Blame Auburn for their defensive stupidity.
As a few of us said earlier in the day, FSU had a weak schedule--and being undefeated in a weak conference certainly doesn't mean that you're
better than a 1-loss team from the strongest conference, and so, while I hate bama, IMO the committee got it right.
I moved here (Athens, AL) 7 years ago so not a native.ACC best usually plays SEC least. FSU could not beat any of the top 5 even with Jordan Travis. I’ve watched FSU all season. Reminds me of BYU in the 80s.
Whose is this from Athens Vol by the way? I’m originally from there.
FSU controls roughly 1/3 of their schedule and had LSU and Florida on there and won them.... Meanwhile Bama had Texas and lost by 10 at home while they struggled with USF the following game.....I hate FSU ( any Florida team for that matter )too so I'm not going to put up much of a defense for them. Their schedule was a joke compared to GA and Bama.
That being said, I am incredibly biased in that I'll never support anything that furthers the Bama dynasty lol There isn't a team in the country that gets the benefit of doubt more than the Tide. And they just got it again.
The whole system is flawed and should never have been limited to 4 teams. Glad they are finally expanding.
There also seems to be a sliding scale in place with their justifications. Its not how you start the season, it's how you finish now apparently. It's almost as bad as trying to figure out what these refs consider holding or pass interference anymore.
Power 5 Conference titles matter until they don't. Yeah...the ACC isn't the SEC but neither is the Pac 12. Washington gets the benefit of doubt since they have their starting QB though.
Can argue around in circles for days under the current system. I hope the expansion puts some of this to rest next year.
That's every ranking ever. But no, 5th and below don't matter. They're all in the same no-chance-at-a-natty boat. They probably kept them at 5 for the feelz. 8/21 for 55 yards gets you another TCU in the playoff. College FB doesn't need another TCU in the playoff and that's what you're getting with FSU.Actually it does matter. If Bama is “better” than Florida State and gets put above, why change the formula for Georgia and Florida State?
Because if you say Bama is better than Florida State but not Georgia, you obviously have a formula that isn’t consistent. And if it isn’t consistent, why not? It’s bias. And what is the bias? Bama Bias….
It’s pretty black and white. If you think FSU is a lesser team, you have to rank them accordingly in the rankings. Worse than Bama but better than Georgia? Flawed formula.
That's every ranking ever. But no, 5th and below don't matter. They're all in the same no-chance-at-a-natty boat. They probably kept them at 5 for the feelz. 8/21 for 55 yards gets you another TCU in the playoff. College FB doesn't need another TCU in the playoff and that's what you're getting with FSU.
It should. The top 6 is usually where the argument take place.I hate FSU ( any Florida team for that matter )too so I'm not going to put up much of a defense for them. Their schedule was a joke compared to GA and Bama.
That being said, I am incredibly biased in that I'll never support anything that furthers the Bama dynasty lol There isn't a team in the country that gets the benefit of doubt more than the Tide. And they just got it again.
The whole system is flawed and should never have been limited to 4 teams. Glad they are finally expanding.
There also seems to be a sliding scale in place with their justifications. Its not how you start the season, it's how you finish now apparently. It's almost as bad as trying to figure out what these refs consider holding or pass interference anymore.
Power 5 Conference titles matter until they don't. Yeah...the ACC isn't the SEC but neither is the Pac 12. Washington gets the benefit of doubt since they have their starting QB though.
Can argue around in circles for days under the current system. I hope the expansion puts some of this to rest next year.
Which ranking Georgia below Florida State looks odd. Why use one formula for Bama and Florida State and another for Florida State and Georgia? Seems like if you (CFP) honestly believe FSU is a different team, you use same formula for the rankings
Good point.
Personally think if it's the best 4 and nothing else they are looking at it's MI TX AL and GA.
GA has a case for getting burned too. They lose 1 game by 3 points in a championship game. I think they handle WA and MI fairly easy on a neutral field.
Now because of 1 close loss, they get left out of the dance.
lol. College football is the only sport where a committee decides who is best and not the records. Like it or not, TCU deserved it last year and so does FSU this season. I can’t wait for the playoff system to make it fair regardless of optics of how the team looks.
Sure it is. But it’s all subjective. So adding more teams is the only way to make it more acceptable. I don’t think it’s ever going to be perfect as along asYou're kidding, right? You really think the same thing isn't going to happen every year where 3-4 teams believe they got screwed by the selection committee and conference favoritism isn't at work?
As long as subjectivity plays any part in selecting playoff teams, this same stuff will happen annually. And don't believe for a second that the NCAA doesn't love and revel in the controversy, which only brings more attention and eyeballs.
With their defense, I think it’s closer than many give them credit for. Your point though is likely true, but still, it’s insanity that they didn’t let them in given the committees past precedent on teams they’ve selected and teams they’ve omitted.ACC best usually plays SEC least. FSU could not beat any of the top 5 even with Jordan Travis. I’ve watched FSU all season. Reminds me of BYU in the 80s.
Whose is this from Athens Vol by the way? I’m originally from there.
Their success was from their #1 QB who unfortunately is out for them. Keep building up a team with a 55 strength of schedule. What a great victory last night over a team that lost to KY.Keep talking out of your ass. Oregon gave up 17 PPG their defense was top 12 in the country. Your basing FSU’s future off last nights performance with their 3rd string QB he won’t be playing in their bowl game, the #2 will be back.